Mikael Siversson Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 1. David Hurzeler, Switzerland 6'' 2. Frank Heinritzi, Germany 6'' (heavier than David) 3. Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 6'' (heavier than Frank [i think]) Steve got 6 1/2'' and Viktor 7'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_Arildsson Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 mobster: I hope you enjoyed my joke about the last kink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 There were some concerns before the competition that the steel used (8mm HRS) might be too soft but that was not the case. Some 8-10 hours of competition takes away some strength at the end. Interesting approach to the "kink" event by Steve (i.e. not training it prior to the competition). Cost you a medal in the overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakath Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 There were some concerns before the competition that the steel used (8mm HRS) might be too soft but that was not the case. Some 8-10 hours of competition takes away some strength at the end.Interesting approach to the "kink" event by Steve (i.e. not training it prior to the competition). Cost you a medal in the overall. ← Yes indeed, at least 9 hours competing took away my strength, especially in the full bend which normally isn't a problem. Steves bending method is rather uncommon I think, but very impressive! But it seemed physiological factors prevented him from kinking shorter lengths to 60 degrees. Because all his attempts looked quite easy But it still wasn't enough, so at his last attempt I said maybe he should try a bit longer nail and it obviously worked better, but I didn't know it was his last attempt since I wasn't really very concentrated anymore It was a bit sad that all competitors couldn't get any score in bending though Not fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) It was a bit sad that all competitors couldn't get any score in bending though Not fun. ← I have wrists like a petite girl and I can bend and kink (to 60 degrees) a 5 3/4'' (5 1/4'' in full bend) of that steel (at least in practise), so 7'' is certainly not over the top for a European Championship. Edited August 21, 2005 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakath Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I have wrists like a petite girl and I can bend and kink (to 60 degrees) a 5 3/4'' (5 1/4'' in full bend) of that steel (at least in practise), so 7'' is certainly not over the top for a European Championship. ← What you or Arne can bend is not relevant. So please explain to me why you don't have grippers ranked at 2,65, 75kgs 2handpinch, 115kg vbar or 212kg in one hand lift as minimum? Getting maybe 6mm or 7mm stock can't be that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 What you or Arne can bend is not relevant. ← Competing in the LGC is a privilege not a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakath Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 What you or Arne can bend is not relevant. ← Competing in the LGC is a privilege not a right. ← Of course, but that still doesn't answer my question very clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 What you or Arne can bend is not relevant. ← Competing in the LGC is a privilege not a right. ← Of course, but that still doesn't answer my question very clearly. ← Yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakath Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 What you or Arne can bend is not relevant. ← Competing in the LGC is a privilege not a right. ← Of course, but that still doesn't answer my question very clearly. ← Yes it does. ← Yes but not very clearly. Or ok, it says that you do whatever you want and you choose whatever weights you want because it's your competition (you=you and Arne I think?) I accept that, but I still think that easier bending stock would be a significant improvement to the competition. I hope I haven't upset you do much with my "whining" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamidon Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I have a question perhaps I am misunderstanding this. Is the Best bend (done by 3 people) of 6" the same diameter and type bar as the entry level 7" bar? This if true seems very odd to me. 3 of the 10 competitors were unable to bend the entry level bar. It would seem to me that the lowest level bar was not at a level that would provide a decent spread from lowest level to top bar bent. It would be like having the lowest gripper be a #3 and those that can't get it be awarded 0 points. There were plenty of people not getting above a #3 lefty. The spread from lowest gripper to highest gripper was rather large (a 2.05 to a BBSE at 3.89) Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 We want the Europeans to start training bending like you do in the US. By American standards that 7'' 8mm HRS would be considered an easy start. A 6'' piece of this stock is comparable to a 6'' G5. Basically, with a few notable exceptions, Europeans suck at bending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) I have a question perhaps I am misunderstanding this.Is the Best bend (done by 3 people) of 6" the same diameter and type bar as the entry level 7" bar? This if true seems very odd to me. 3 of the 10 competitors were unable to bend the entry level bar. It would seem to me that the lowest level bar was not at a level that would provide a decent spread from lowest level to top bar bent. It would be like having the lowest gripper be a #3 and those that can't get it be awarded 0 points. There were plenty of people not getting above a #3 lefty. The spread from lowest gripper to highest gripper was rather large (a 2.05 to a BBSE at 3.89) Greg ← Also, remember that unlike competitions in the US, the Euro is limited to a maximum of 12 competitors. These are ment to be the very best of the best (in theory), whereas if it was an open competition for everyone, we would naturally provide weak bending stock as well. Moreover, providing 6mm bending stocks to competitors that really should be strong in bending (this is a major championship after all) just adds another cost to Arne. Edited August 21, 2005 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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