f34r Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Right now I have a #1 i can get to about 3/4 of an inch, and one of those cheap store bought grippers. Can I get results using that for overcrushes, or will they be innefective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunny Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Worth a try but if you only have the one gripper you could try negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqeezeMasterFlash Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Your store bought might not be enough to overcrush. I'd do overcrushes with the trainer and negatives with a #1 and a #2, ar a Warren Tetting Super Advanced. They're pretty cheap and you'll get more than your money's worth out of buying extra grippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegann Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Right now I have a #1 i can get to about 3/4 of an inch, and one of those cheap store bought grippers. Can I get results using that for overcrushes, or will they be innefective? My opinion: If the shape and size of the closed handles of the cheapy gripper are similar to the shape and size of the closed handles of your No. 1, the overcrushes should be effective. Overcrushes are mostly an isometric contraction. The lion's share of that exercise is squeezing the gripper in a closed position. This is really second best, though. If you don't have the loot to buy the Trainer or other decent gripper, then you have to do the best you can with what you have. If you're just being a tightwad, though, then you're being penny wise and pound foolish. You'll keep and use the Trainer for a long, long time. After you've outgrown it for overcrushes, you'll still use it to warm up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinslater Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I think your better off taking attempts and negs with your #1 for now. Good luck! Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryg Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 You should buy a coc trainer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunny Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Cheat close it a lot using your thumb at the bottom of one of the handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Styles Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Depends how long you've been trying to close that #1. If it's been awhile, you'd probably do well to get a trainer. If you can close it, it will at the least be a good challenge and provide a better stepping stone to the #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Right now I have a #1 i can get to about 3/4 of an inch, and one of those cheap store bought grippers. Can I get results using that for overcrushes, or will they be innefective? If you "fail" where you do it could be because your crush is weaker than your sweep, or it may be that you just have a weak sweep that doesn't let you use any strength you have over the last half inch or so. If it is the former then yes it will help to some degree; if it's the latter, then it will not help as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkbone Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 What has worked for me up to this point is working with a gripper above the one I'm trying to close. If you can close a trainer and are trying to close the #1, get a #2 and start doing negatives. I agree, the trainer is a good purchase also as it is a good gripper to warm-up and perfect technique on. You could also use the trainer for strap holds and overcrushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 adding to the Overcrush question, I noticed when I do OC's I have my thumb wrapped around and am squeezing with it as well, does anyone else do this? I recently am concentrating on not using the thumb, yea or nay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkbone Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 (edited) adding to the Overcrush question, I noticed when I do OC's I have my thumb wrapped around and am squeezing with it as well, does anyone else do this? I recently am concentrating on not using the thumb, yea or nay? Yeah, I do that to an extent. My thumb sometimes comes around and touches the tip of my index finger. I've never really thought about it too much. I just try to use everything in my hand to grind the handles. Edited September 10, 2004 by milkbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotenmyoou Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Cheat shut your #1 and overcrush it. Overcrush is vital for having a strong crush grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f34r Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 I can't keep it completely shut yet =/ And what is a sweep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 I'd really recommend getting a HG100 or Trainer and using that for overcrushes. I only get results when I do overcrushes on a gripper that is one level below the one I am trying to close. So if the #1 is your goal, overcrushing the Trainer would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Yeah, I think you need the trainer, 3/4" is still pretty far away from being closed, the trainer itself might surprise you and be strong enough for you to do some work on. But if you really don't have the money then you could try OCs and two finger closes with the store bought and do a lot of assisted closes on the #1 (use the other hand to help get it closed). Also, learning to set the gripper properly might put you over the edge in being able to close it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegann Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 adding to the Overcrush question, I noticed when I do OC's I have my thumb wrapped around and am squeezing with it as well, does anyone else do this? I recently am concentrating on not using the thumb, yea or nay? I never thought about it until you mentioned it, but yeah, I use my thumb on OC's too. I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but it does seem like a good idea to quit thumb wrapping. It doesn't really help you shut the gripper (what we're training to do), it only helps you keep it shut once you've closed it. So I'll probably change my technique, or at least experiment with it. Good observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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