daniel reinard Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 That totally makes sense. I wish I trained more CCS width stuff early on myself. If you're gonna compete though you want a perfect set. Try setting it the way you do and when you get close to MMS give it a quick "hit" with the setting hand to drive it right down to parallel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hey Sean. If I do the thumbscrews first in the workout the 2 reds is very easy and I use it as a warm up. I always like to warm up every workout to get the blood flowing. If I do it at the end of my pinch workout I use it as a finisher since my hands are already fried. I also do them while facing the Vulcan down at my side with one hand instead of resting the vulcan on its side to really mimic plate pinching and pinching on the Euro. This also takes the advantage of gravity out of the equation. I really neglected my thumbs at the start of this log by only training grippers so my thumbs are also very far behind. You should definitely move up in resistance if your doing it as your first working exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Great Gripper workout this afternoon with my friend. I asked him to come over to get me pumped up because adrenaline makes a huge difference. Right Hand Warm Up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 parallel reps COC #2.5 = 1 parallel rep COC #3 = 1 parallel rep Working BBE = 1 MMS close MM3 replica MMS Attempt = Getting closer! Video below. COC #3 = 1.75 inch CCS Close (also in the video below). BBE = 1 MMS close MM1 replica = 1.5 inch CCS close MM1 replica = 1.5 inch CCS close BBE = 1 MMS rep BBE = 1 MMS rep MM1 Replica = 3 MMS reps BBE = 1 MMS rep MM1 replica = 2 MMS reps Left Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 parallel reps COC #2.5 = 1 parallel rep Working MM1 replica = 1 MMS rep. In video below MM1 replica = 1 MMS rep. MM1 replica = failed MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = failed MMS rep GHP 7 = 1 MMS rep BBGM = 1 MMS rep BBGM = 1 MMS rep BBGM = 1 MMS rep Note = Grippers are really coming along. Here is the video of today's best efforts = . My friend is not a great camera man . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel reinard Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Dude, that is scary strong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Dude, that is scary strong! Thanks bro. The real scary thing was hearing me grunt like a nut job during the MM3 attempt. I forgot to get rid of the original video audio before adding the music so you can hear it faintly over the music if you listen closely. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel reinard Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Lol, I didn't hear it. Coach always said if you ain't making a noise you ain't trying hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thick bar and wrist training today. Woke up with soreness in my neck. I must have slept in a weird position. Rolling Thunder Warm Up 104 lbs = 8 reps right and left hand 129 lbs = 3 reps right and left hand Working Singles 154 lbs = Good lift right and left 156.5 lbs = Good lift right and left 159 lbs = Good lift right and left 161.5 lbs = Good lift right and left 164 lbs = Good lift left hand, air but no lock with the right. Feeling a little soreness in my right wrist so I decided to call it quits with the right. 166.5 lbs = Good lift left 169 lbs = Fail left Dumbbell deadlift and hold with fat gripz 85 lbs each hand = held as long as possible 106 lbs each hand = held as long as possible 106 lbs each hand = held as long as possible Levering (little lighter this week to protect the wrist) 12.5 lbs = 3 sets of 10 reps both right and left Supination/pronation (again going lighter) 12.5 lbs = 3 sets of 10 reps both right and left Note - Signed up for the MM1 off hand. Can't wait to give it a shot. The good news is that my replica feels harder to me than the actual MM1 and I have been closing my replica for 2-3 singles a workout. I just gotta make sure I'm fresh when it comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Since my right wrist has been acting up lately, I decided to take the last 2 days off and what a difference it made. My wrist feels much better and my right hand was strong today. I had an off day lefty though. oh well, I'm going to focus on the positive results with the right hand. My right CCS felt great today and I'm making progress with my strength at this wide distance. Right Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 CCS reps COC #2.5 =1 CCS rep Working Full CCS GHP 7 = 1 CCS rep! Closed with authority. I felt the handles touch. BBGM = 1 CCS rep GHP 7 = 1 CCS rep GHP 7 = 1 CCS rep. This is giving me a lot of confidence since this gripper is close to my COC #3. I still feel my COC #3 is a little harder though since the GHP is so smooth and I have never cleaned my #3. 1.5 inch CCS MM1 replica = 1.5 inch CCS close no problems. MM1 replica = 1.5 inch CCS close no problems. MM1 replica = 1.5 inch CCS close no problems. MMS BBE = 1 MMS close BBE = 1 MMS close BBE = 1 MMS close CCS Vulcan V2 Level 11 = 3 CCS reps just for a finisher Left Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 CCS reps COC #2.5 =1 CCS rep Working MMS COC #2.5 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = Failed MMS rep. Feeling soreness in my left wrist now. . Hopefully it bounces back like right since the MM1 off cert is coming up. BBGM = 1 MMS rep BBGM = 1 MMS rep BBGM = 1 MMS rep COC #2.5 = 1 MMS rep RB 240 = 1 MMS rep RB 240 = 1 MMS rep RB 240 = 1 MMS rep GNC 200 = 3 MMS reps Note - I played several full court games of basketball Thursday night and lifted legs so my legs are so freaking sore. I'm walking around like a 90 year old man. I might hit pinch tomorrow if my legs heal up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 sounds like you might be getting ready for the IM cert. any idea when you plan to try that? a goal gripper you want to close first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have been thinking about that. I was thinking about a few options. I could get my grippers rated by a board member and see where my #3 comes in at. If its a hard one maybe I would concentrate on getting at least 2 CCS singles on it. I could wait until I can get my MM1 CCS. I could try to buy or borrow a gripper already rated in the high 150s. I'm not sure. I'm curious to hear suggestions and what people think is the best idea. What do you think Brent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsean11 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think if you had some people around for the adrenaline factor, you could close the 3 ccs. You are getting really strong, bro! Also, try soaking your hands and wrists in cool water mixed with epson salts. I have been doing it the past 2 weeks, and has helped a ton. My wrists were swollen from all the arm wrestling and grip work, and the salt baths helped bring the swelling down and maybe helped with recovery. I do10 minutes on each arm before bed. I hope it helps. I am going for a #3 mms today. I will post a video later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think I have some grippers in the ball park of what you would be looking for. let me check tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think if you had some people around for the adrenaline factor, you could close the 3 ccs. You are getting really strong, bro! Also, try soaking your hands and wrists in cool water mixed with epson salts. I have been doing it the past 2 weeks, and has helped a ton. My wrists were swollen from all the arm wrestling and grip work, and the salt baths helped bring the swelling down and maybe helped with recovery. I do10 minutes on each arm before bed. I hope it helps. I am going for a #3 mms today. I will post a video later on. Thanks Sean. Adrenaline makes a huge difference. I was so pumped up during the Durinat comp that the gripper closes felt easy. Definitely gotta try soaking my hands to make sure they stay healthy as I keep pushing the envelope. Can't wait to see your vid. I'm rooting for you bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 i only own 2 #3's and my harder one is still just a little easier than my GHP7.. base on the way you are smashin' that GHP7, i think your ready man. and i definately think your ready if you have some boys there to cheer you on. word. Thanks Tommy. I'm going to keep training hard. I want to be absolutely confident before I sign up. Based on how the MM1 and MM2 have felt, the grippers at the Durniat comp and my GHP 7, I would guess my #3 is above average. I'm going to buckle down though because I want my name on that list so bad. I hit pinch today. Light session. I didn't push myself too hard since I have been going hard for weeks and figure I need to hold back every now and then to avoid over training. Been feeling wrist and forearm soreness and I have to listen to body. Loadable Blob Warm up 16.5 lbs = 5 lifts right and 5 lifts left 26.5 lbs = 3 lifts right and 3 lifts left Working Singles 29.5 lbs = Good lift right and left 32 lbs = Good lift right and left 34 lbs = Good lift right and left 36.5 lbs = Good lift right and left 39.5 lbs = Good lift right and left Ghetto Hub (two 1.25 lb plates stacked as hub surface) Working singles 35 lbs = Good lift right and left 40 lbs = Good lift right and left 45 lbs = Good lift right and left 45 lbs = Good lift right and left 45 lbs = Good lift right and left Vulcan V2 Thumbscrews 2 Red IM bands top notches = 1 set of 10 reps both right and left 2 reds and 1 white IM band on top notches = 2 sets of 10 reps both right and left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I forgot to check last night. got distracted by dinner and falling asleep on the coach. I will say that last spring when I was thinking about doing the cert I ordered a new #3. it was 5# easier than my old one that hed been getting used for years. I would ask around. usually someone has an idea what the #3's a rating at right now. that would help give you an idea as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have a #3 at 150# and an rb 300 @ 170#. nothing in between. I can loan you either if it would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have a #3 at 150# and an rb 300 @ 170#. nothing in between. I can loan you either if it would help. Thanks Brent. I'm going to rest up and give my #3 a shot CCS either Sunday or Monday. I haven't tried in a while. I wanna see how that goes first. If I miss it, I would like to try your 150 #3 to see where I stand with a rated gripper. I'll let you know. Really appreciate the offer man. Do you rate the grippers yourself or send them to someone on the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsean11 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Chez, do you know anything about the springs used over the years in the #3? There is a #3 from 2002 that I am looking at, and I thought the springs were a bit softer then. Any input? (It's a double stamp, the model before the current one) Edited February 25, 2012 by iamsean11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Chez, do you know anything about the springs used over the years in the #3? There is a #3 from 2002 that I am looking at, and I thought the springs were a bit softer then. Any input? (It's a double stamp, the model before the current one) Sorry Sean. I don't know much about that. My #3 is around 4+ years old and the only one I have tried. Mighty Joe would probably know. You should try sending him a PM. That guy owns more grippers than anyone I know and seems to know a lot about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsean11 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thanks buddy, will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 all my grippers have been done by chris rice. he's also done all the grippers that were at andrews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 When I compare my for instance MM2 replica with my IM#3, I notice the spread of the IM is just wider. Maybe the MM2 is harder in the close, but since I can set it in a more advantageous position, a CCS on that thing would be maybe more 'easy' than with my IM#3. When I let the CC go through, the backhandle always slips backwards and I have to almost fully stretch my fingers, so when performing the close, my fingers just stop haulin' in at the last final mm's. I think for myself that maybe training MMS isn't the thing to do, but more working full range....it's getting a bit frustrating sometimes quite frankly. I remember a post on the David Horne forum in which was mentioned that when you can CCS the Vulcan at level 14/15 you should be able to practically crush any #3 in certification. That's my goal for now. I don't want to take the risk in going for the cert and still ending up with a 'freak' #3 and miss the attempt. I WILL get it though. Mind you, closing the #3 CCS is still a very strong thing to do, we sometimes tend to forget that. In my opinion, and with no disrespect to former #3 certers the 'old' way, I saw some vids on youtube of guys certifiying on the #3 years back, and those closes were just MMS closes and sometimes deeper, but certainly no dominating CCS/TNS closes. It's not without reason that the number of people who certified drasticaly dropped when the rules changed. We'll get it bro. You a bit earlier than me I know haha I'm just getting back up after a few days of stomach flu pfff lost a few kg's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 When I compare my for instance MM2 replica with my IM#3, I notice the spread of the IM is just wider. Maybe the MM2 is harder in the close, but since I can set it in a more advantageous position, a CCS on that thing would be maybe more 'easy' than with my IM#3. When I let the CC go through, the backhandle always slips backwards and I have to almost fully stretch my fingers, so when performing the close, my fingers just stop haulin' in at the last final mm's. I think for myself that maybe training MMS isn't the thing to do, but more working full range....it's getting a bit frustrating sometimes quite frankly. I remember a post on the David Horne forum in which was mentioned that when you can CCS the Vulcan at level 14/15 you should be able to practically crush any #3 in certification. That's my goal for now. I don't want to take the risk in going for the cert and still ending up with a 'freak' #3 and miss the attempt. I WILL get it though. Mind you, closing the #3 CCS is still a very strong thing to do, we sometimes tend to forget that. In my opinion, and with no disrespect to former #3 certers the 'old' way, I saw some vids on youtube of guys certifiying on the #3 years back, and those closes were just MMS closes and sometimes deeper, but certainly no dominating CCS/TNS closes. It's not without reason that the number of people who certified drasticaly dropped when the rules changed. We'll get it bro. You a bit earlier than me I know haha I'm just getting back up after a few days of stomach flu pfff lost a few kg's! We are definitely going to get it. I set no time limit on this goal. I don't care how long it takes. I have fun training so it makes the time fly. The CCS rule and new gripper out of the package really makes it a whole new ball game. That is reflected in the certification list. Since the year that the rule was established, the number of guys certing has drastically reduced. Even though CCS is frustrating, I kind of like it. It makes it so that a person really has to dominate the gripper. The accomplishment will feel that much sweeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Continuing to work on my gripper CCS power today. My right wrist and forearm felt good and my left better. Right Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 Parallel reps COC #2 = 3 CCS reps COC # 2.5 = 1 CCS rep Working GHP 7 = 1 CCS close. Video below. Not as convincing as last workout but I fought through and got it. Its always harder getting closes on video. GHP 7 = 1 CCS close. BBGM = 1 CCS close MM1 replica = one 1.5 inch CCS close MM1 replica = one 1.5 inch CCS close MM1 replica = one 1.5 inch CCS close BBE = 1 MMS close BBE = 1 MMS close BBE = 1 MMS close BBE = failed mms attempt. hand is getting fried. Left Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 parallel reps COC #2.5 = 1 parallel rep Working MM1 replica = 1 MMS close MM1 replica = 1 MMS close COC #3 = 1 MMS close COC #3 = 1 MMS close COC #3 = 1 MMS close BBGM = 1 MMS close BBGM = 1 MMS close BBGM = 1 MMS close BBGM = 1 MMS close COC #2.5 = 3 parallel reps GHP 7 CCS close from above: Note - Going to lift chest and tris at the gym. Since I have been grip training my overall body strength has really improved. I'm pushing a lot of weight in the gym. My grip on bars and dumbbells feels much better and it lets me man handle weights. Edited February 26, 2012 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 My gripper strength was off the charts today. I have no idea what it was but I felt crazy strong. Since today was my off-hand MM1 Cert, I trained TSG around the cert attempts. Right Hand Warm Up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 3 parallel reps COC #2.5 = 1 CCS rep Working GHP 7 = 1 CCS rep. That felt really easy. It was smooth and I didn't have to shuffle the gripper in my hand like the close I posted the other day. COC #3 = My first CCS Close! I wasn't even going to try this today but the GHP 7 close felt so easy I had to go for it. Video of the close below. GHP 7 = 1 easy CCS close GHP 7 = 1 easy CCS close GHP 7 = 1 easy CCS close MM1 relpica = 1.75 inch ccs close BBE = failed 1.5 inch ccs attempt. just missed. BBE = MMS close MM1 = 1.5 inch ccs close MM1 = 1.5 inch ccs close GHP 7 = 9 parallel reps Left Hand Warm up COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #2 = 2 parallel reps COC #2.5 = 1 parallel rep COC #2.5 = 1 parallel rep Working MM1 cert attempts = I took all 3 attempts and sent them to Bill. Lets just say I feel confident. - At this point I had to run to a doctors appointment so I decided to finished when I got back. I warmed up my left hand again as soon as I got back. COC #1 = 10 parallel reps COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep COC #3 = 1 MMS rep GHP 7 = 1 MMS rep GHP 7 = 1 MMS rep GHP 7 = 1 MMS rep COC #2.5 = 9 mms reps COC #3 CCS close video: Note: just a great day. Now I got make it so that a #3 CCS is really easy before I sign up for the cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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