Rb Narrow Grippers

[Force]

I'm trying to get some data how strong those RB Narrow models are. That narrow spread feels great in hand. Good for NoSet training too. It's a shame that spring is not so good quality than BB and CoC grippers.

This is what I've found comments and some calibration results;

RB210N: 1,89. Little bit easier than CoC #2.

RB240N: 2,78. Midway of #2.5 and #3

RB260N: 2,8. About same as RB240N

RB300N: 3,11. Just a little bit harder than #3

RB330N: 3,36. Easier than #3.5

RB365N: 3,64. Harder than #3.5

RB400N: 3,83

Do this look about right? Those RB:s vary so much that calibration result have huge dispersion. Example some RB260 and RB240 are way below 2.5..but on average they are harder than 2.5.

Edited July 4, 2009 by Force

[Magnus]

That looks right. You can get narrow Beefbuilders, btw.

[Force]

That looks right. You can get narrow Beefbuilders, btw.

Yeah, but the price is over 2,5 times normal gripper, when narrow RB:s cost the same as normal versions.

How strong RB180N is? About 1.5 ?

[Magnus]

I believe a 180n is slightly easier than a #1.

[Benedikt Farsmann]

1 IM Guide 60 lbs

2 RB70

3 IM Sport 80 lbs

4 HG100

5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs

6 HG150

7 .225 COC T 100 lbs

8 RB130N

9 RB100

10 RB160N

11 RB130

12 RB180N

13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs

14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs

15 HG200

16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs

17 PDA243

18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs

19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs

20 GM1 cert gripper

21 RB210N

22 HG250

23 RB160

24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs

25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs

26 RB180

27 RB240N

28 PDA262

29 RB260N

30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs

31 HG300

32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs

33 GM2 cert Gripper

34 RB210

35 HG400

36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs

37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs

38 .277 RB240

39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs

40 GM3 cert gripper

41 RB300N

42 HG350

43 .277 RB260

44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs

45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs

46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs

47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs

48 RB330N

49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs

50 .295 RB300

51 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs

52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs

53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs

54 RB330

55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs

56 .353 HG500

57 RB365

58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs

59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs

60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs

61 .362 BB Super Galaxy

62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy

63 RBWT

[Force]

Yea, I know that list. It says that RB240N and RB260N are easier than CoC #2.5. On average, are they? I think they are bit harder.

RB330N harder than CoC #3.5. No way.

[knyaz]

the Rb 280 N

I have is a bit under my easy #3

[Magnus]

Yea, I know that list. It says that RB240N and RB260N are easier than CoC #2.5. On average, are they? I think they are bit harder.

RB330N harder than CoC #3.5. No way.

There are some 330Ns that are harder than some #3.5s. Keep in mind most #3.5s are in the low/mid 170s anymore.

[Hubgeezer]

RBs are all over the map. The RGC numbers now support what some of us discovered a long time ago.

[Force]

Yea, I know that list. It says that RB240N and RB260N are easier than CoC #2.5. On average, are they? I think they are bit harder.

RB330N harder than CoC #3.5. No way.

There are some 330Ns that are harder than some #3.5s. Keep in mind most #3.5s are in the low/mid 170s anymore.

There is surely plenty of 330Ns that are harder than plenty of #3.5:s, but on average #3.5 is maybe just a bit harder.

[Force]

RBs are all over the map. The RGC numbers now support what some of us discovered a long time ago.

Sad but true. It is quite useless to calculate average rating when grippers vary so much. Example easiest RB260 what I've seen calibrated 127lbs = 2.42 and hardest 162lbs = 3.2 (same calibration device). Huge difference.

[DannyGrip]

1 IM Guide 60 lbs

2 RB70

3 IM Sport 80 lbs

4 HG100

5 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs

6 HG150

7 .225 COC T 100 lbs

8 RB130N

9 RB100

10 RB160N

11 RB130

12 RB180N

13 .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs

14 .235 COC #1 140 lbs

15 HG200

16 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs

17 PDA243

18 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs

19 .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs

20 GM1 cert gripper

21 RB210N

22 HG250

23 RB160

24 .260 BB Master 195 lbs

25 .260 COC #2 195 lbs

26 RB180

27 RB240N

28 PDA262

29 RB260N

30 .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs

31 HG300

32 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs

33 GM2 cert Gripper

34 RB210

35 HG400

36 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs

37 .281 COC #3 280 lbs

38 .277 RB240

39 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs

40 GM3 cert gripper

41 RB300N

42 HG350

43 .277 RB260

44 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs

45 .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs

46 .295 BB Elite 320 lbs

47 .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs

48 RB330N

49 .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs

50 .295 RB300

51 .306 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs

52 .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs

53 .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs

54 RB330

55 .312 COC #4 365 lbs

56 .353 HG500

57 RB365

58 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs

59 .345 BB World Class 470 lbs

60 .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs

61 .362 BB Super Galaxy

62 .375 BB Grand Galaxy

63 RBWT

The problem with this list is that HG150 is harder than a Trainer and the BB Master is slightly harder than a #2.

I'm also very curious about the Robert Baraban Grippers, I just ordered one myself to see how they are.

What do you mean that the spring quality is low? Is the close like Heavy Grips? Do the grippers become relatively easier after 5 workout sessions? I think BeefBuilder customized grippers are good, but pretty pricey for not so good looking grippers and I'm still not a fan of its knurling. Too rough to the point where your palm gets red. CoC knurling I really like!

Does anyone know if RB knurling is like CoC ? I remember the HG knurling was not bad at all when I had HG's, but there were other things I didn't like - the close felt uneven and the handles would touch but one was higher than the other, also the seasoning bothered me.

[Force]

The problem with this list is that HG150 is harder than a Trainer and the BB Master is slightly harder than a #2.

I'm also very curious about the Robert Baraban Grippers, I just ordered one myself to see how they are.

What do you mean that the spring quality is low? Is the close like Heavy Grips? Do the grippers become relatively easier after 5 workout sessions? I think BeefBuilder customized grippers are good, but pretty pricey for not so good looking grippers and I'm still not a fan of its knurling. Too rough to the point where your palm gets red. CoC knurling I really like!

Does anyone know if RB knurling is like CoC ? I remember the HG knurling was not bad at all when I had HG's, but there were other things I didn't like - the close felt uneven and the handles would touch but one was higher than the other, also the seasoning bothered me.

My BB Master is also slightly harder than my CoC #2, but again, they are so close that it's just like throwing a coin which one would be harder if you order both.

Spring quality is lower than CoC and BB, because the grippers loose some of their strength. It's still far better than Heavy Grips. HG:s are junk.

Test was done with RB400N. Before first close the strength was 208 lbs, after 10 closes 204, after 50 it was 199 and after 100 closes it was 196 lbs. Then after 15 minutes it was again 199 lbs.

Knurling and feel is of course opinions, but personally I like the RB:s knurling and feel the most. Handles are just slightly fatter than CoC and Beefs and it gives them slightly different feel.

Edited July 5, 2009 by Force

[DannyGrip]

The problem with this list is that HG150 is harder than a Trainer and the BB Master is slightly harder than a #2.

I'm also very curious about the Robert Baraban Grippers, I just ordered one myself to see how they are.

What do you mean that the spring quality is low? Is the close like Heavy Grips? Do the grippers become relatively easier after 5 workout sessions? I think BeefBuilder customized grippers are good, but pretty pricey for not so good looking grippers and I'm still not a fan of its knurling. Too rough to the point where your palm gets red. CoC knurling I really like!

Does anyone know if RB knurling is like CoC ? I remember the HG knurling was not bad at all when I had HG's, but there were other things I didn't like - the close felt uneven and the handles would touch but one was higher than the other, also the seasoning bothered me.

My BB Master is also slightly harder than my CoC #2, but again, they are so close that it's just like throwing a coin which one would be harder if you order both.

Spring quality is lower than CoC and BB, because the grippers loose some of their strength. It's still far better than Heavy Grips. HG:s are junk.

Test was done with RB400N. Before first close the strength was 208 lbs, after 10 closes 204, after 50 it was 199 and after 100 closes it was 196 lbs. Then after 15 minutes it was again 199 lbs.

Knurling and feel is of course opinions, but personally I like the RB:s knurling and feel the most. Handles are just slightly fatter than CoC and Beefs and it gives them slightly different feel.

I think the BB Master is a 2.1 on the CoC scale.

Would anyone know how the RB160, RB180, and RB210N rank the CoC scale ?

[egg_uk]

really depends from when they are from, as i have a 160 and 180, that must be pretty close together, and they are just above a 2, and i just got a 210c which is a narrow, that is a little older, and that is similar as well, could possibly be easier, havent really compared them much,

[Force]

I think the BB Master is a 2.1 on the CoC scale.

Would anyone know how the RB160, RB180, and RB210N rank the CoC scale ?

Some calibration results;

RB160: Sample of 13 grippers. Rating 1,52 - 2,4. Average 1,95.

RB180: Sample of 10 grippers. Rating 1,93 - 2,61. Average 2,20.

RB210N: I've seen only one calibration result and it was 1,89.

[JAU1985]

I like my RB210N, it's a perfect fit for my hand to perform no set closes and there is more than enough room for a "Credit card set" in them if I ever decide I want to cert. IMO they would be very useful building the strength for certing. I ordered a few more to work on my over all strength. As Teemu and a few others pointed out in another thread, grippers were originally created with some design flaws, I.E. pretty wide for the average hand. I think the RB Narrows suit me the best for no set work, I can set or not set if I want and work with them well. I plan to get all my RB's calibrated by Cannon when I get them all in and see how strong they are. I'll get more from Wade in the future no doubt.

[Force]

I like my RB210N, it's a perfect fit for my hand to perform no set closes and there is more than enough room for a "Credit card set" in them if I ever decide I want to cert. IMO they would be very useful building the strength for certing. I ordered a few more to work on my over all strength. As Teemu and a few others pointed out in another thread, grippers were originally created with some design flaws, I.E. pretty wide for the average hand. I think the RB Narrows suit me the best for no set work, I can set or not set if I want and work with them well. I plan to get all my RB's calibrated by Cannon when I get them all in and see how strong they are. I'll get more from Wade in the future no doubt.

I have thought many times why grippers have so impractically wide spread. My RB70 has 2.19" spread and it feels so much more comfortable in hand than normal +2.70" spread. In my opinion normal spread should be around 2". That's the reason I'm interested in RB Narrow models only. Normal spread grippers I go with BB and CoC.

[JAU1985]

I have no idea, I guess it became the normal thing to do? But yes, the Narrow RB's from what I can tell (judging from my RB210N) are worth it. I'm waiting for the 240 and 260 Narrow's with the chrome springs to get here from Wade.

[Force]

I think I'll have to get the whole set of narrows RB210N to RB400N.

[Force]

But yes, the Narrow RB's from what I can tell (judging from my RB210N) are worth it. I'm waiting for the 240 and 260 Narrow's with the chrome springs to get here from Wade.

How hard is your RB210N compared to your CoC #2 ?

[ControlledChaos]

just grab the challenge(i.e. gripper of choice) and be happy.

why the need?

[DannyGrip]

But yes, the Narrow RB's from what I can tell (judging from my RB210N) are worth it. I'm waiting for the 240 and 260 Narrow's with the chrome springs to get here from Wade.

How hard is your RB210N compared to your CoC #2 ?

I just got my RB160 today and it feels right between my CoC #2 and Coc #2.5.

Very weird, considering this gripper is suppose to be rated about 1.75.

I rate it a 2.25.

Does anyone know if this gripper will season?

I've so far closed it few times, didn't really feel any difference in it yet.

THANKS.

[knyaz]

yeah the 160 ive had felt right at 2.25 i would say great inbetween gripper for sure

[Force]

In average RB160 is just below #2. Again there is ridiculous amount of variation. You can get looser than hard #1.5 or harder than easy #2.5.