Florian Kellersmann Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Very nice photos and videos from Denis Ciplenkov on his new homepage: http://www.ciplenkov.ru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Cool site thanks for the link. Edited January 16, 2009 by Josh H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_Arildsson Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://translate.google.com/translate?prev...sl=ru&tl=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I find it kind of funny that his last name seems to translate to "chicken" ...that's nothing I would call him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikkonen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 best armwrestler site ive seen ( i mean for the individual puller) Why your hands so much? — Все думают, что это от употребления С.Г.Р. - Everyone thinks that it is to use S.G.R. вот и не угадали! That's not guessing! У нас в роду по отцовской линии у всех моих дедов, дядек были такие руки, наследственность одним словом. We have a sort of father to all of my grandparents, dyadek had such arms, hereditary in one word. , dyadek had such arms, hereditary in one word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mathison Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 his fingers are like my wrists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Sprawl Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 so his arms and hands are like that because his grandfather had the same? that's amazing, he's the first person i've ever seen to have such unbelievable bone structure and muscularity like that. his wrist is probably as thick as my ankle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 That is one extraordinarily large individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel r Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) Denis wants Vendetta with Brzenk in May (right hand) Edited January 17, 2009 by pawel r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian Kellersmann Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Denis wants Vendetta with Brzenk in May (right hand) If he wants to be #1, he should challenge Devon IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I hope it gets set up! Denis probably knows he will not be ready for Devon by then. However, with Brzenk his chances are higher, if he can keep the match in a hook he could have a shot at it IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicio Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Denis wants Vendetta with Brzenk in May (right hand) If he wants to be #1, he should challenge Devon IMO. I agree with you...BUT the Denis's wrist and finger strength at the table not as pure strength (seeing him at zloty 2008) is not at the level of Devon or John. I don't think is enough 5 month of training to close that gap. There are some aspects I would to focus on.... WEIGHT Denis Ciplenkov = ~140kg Devon Larratt = ~120kg John Brzenk = ~95kg I know that if you want to be the best doesn't matter what's your weight but as you can surely know at high level even some kg can make a big difference (and talking about those three men the fat is not involved) so the first two have a real advantage (the AGE is another one) i mean the tendons/ligaments/joints properly trained and with a good technique could make Denis or Devon in a (potentially) "no loose" monster. But how do you think about an eventually increase of weight of John?? (or a decrease of the other two ) I know that he's at his best at his actually weight but i think six MONTHS OF REST (too many tournament in those arms) and a good training for that match ONLY (as Devon made) probably could give us back the real John. Many time i've read about Voevoda's RETURN but i've never seen Voevoda to compete for at least five years, all year long, (and John is competing since late 80s ) and trying to compete with someone who weight 15kg more than him. I think many of you have different points of view so try to compare this three aspect Weight - Age - Months of rest/hard training before tough matches. Let me know that points of view PS... Excuse me for my bad english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Good points, but John is closer to Devon's weight than Devon is to Denis. At least last time I heard, Devon was 250 lbs. (114 kg), Denis wasn't he 313 lbs. at Zloty when he weighed in (142 kg)? And John's weight I believe is usually about 100 kg (220 lbs.) but I don't know what he weight atm. Not that it really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicio Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Good points, but John is closer to Devon's weight than Devon is to Denis. At least last time I heard, Devon was 250 lbs. (114 kg), Denis wasn't he 313 lbs. at Zloty when he weighed in (142 kg)? And John's weight I believe is usually about 100 kg (220 lbs.) but I don't know what he weight atm. Not that it really matters. Maybe you're right.... but the fact is that John looses by 2 men with + or - 15kg more than him, I've read around the armwrestling that John was ready to loss weight to fight with Rustam Babayev... I don't know if it's a urban legend but if it's true is a great way to live our sport and I think is the right way. As usual is a matter of points of view (as I wrote ) but if you think that it doesn't really matter you can cut off all light classes because a 70kg puller can not do anything with that giants. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightertrainer Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Good points, but John is closer to Devon's weight than Devon is to Denis. At least last time I heard, Devon was 250 lbs. (114 kg), Denis wasn't he 313 lbs. at Zloty when he weighed in (142 kg)? And John's weight I believe is usually about 100 kg (220 lbs.) but I don't know what he weight atm. Not that it really matters. Maybe you're right.... but the fact is that John looses by 2 men with + or - 15kg more than him, I've read around the armwrestling that John was ready to loss weight to fight with Rustam Babayev... I don't know if it's a urban legend but if it's true is a great way to live our sport and I think is the right way. As usual is a matter of points of view (as I wrote ) but if you think that it doesn't really matter you can cut off all light classes because a 70kg puller can not do anything with that giants. IMO I am NOT sure what you're talking about "cutting all the light classes" ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicio Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Good points, but John is closer to Devon's weight than Devon is to Denis. At least last time I heard, Devon was 250 lbs. (114 kg), Denis wasn't he 313 lbs. at Zloty when he weighed in (142 kg)? And John's weight I believe is usually about 100 kg (220 lbs.) but I don't know what he weight atm. Not that it really matters. Maybe you're right.... but the fact is that John looses by 2 men with + or - 15kg more than him, I've read around the armwrestling that John was ready to loss weight to fight with Rustam Babayev... I don't know if it's a urban legend but if it's true is a great way to live our sport and I think is the right way. As usual is a matter of points of view (as I wrote ) but if you think that it doesn't really matter you can cut off all light classes because a 70kg puller can not do anything with that giants. IMO I am NOT sure what you're talking about "cutting all the light classes" ??? Only to provoke.. .. because it seems the weight doesn't matter at such high level and such high weight.... so if someone think so there is a little bit of confusion. We're talking about the best arwrestlers so IMHO a little gap for me it's OK but for these fight also a limit is needed. I always speak at equal training, recently fights or rest period, injuries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightertrainer Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Sorry but I still don't get it! Your phrasing are confused. It's your idea of expression seemed to jump from one to another place and got me lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviper42 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Josh H wrote And John's weight I believe is usually about 100 kg (220 lbs.) but I don't know what he weight atm. Not that it really matters. and bicio wrote As usual is a matter of points of view (as I wrote wink.gif ) but if you think that it doesn't really matter you can cut off all light classes because a 70kg puller can not do anything with that giants. IMO to demonstrate that weight does matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree that is matters (though Corey Miller did beat Eric Wolfe at the Colorado States! ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikkonen Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 why doesnt denis pick on someone his own age (devon), not that john is old, i still think he will beat denis in a vendetta. i think denis wants to beat john as he see's him as stil lthe best right handed arm wrestler in the world, as i do still, and also, revenge :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) About the age thing isn't Andrey Pushkar younger than Cyplenkov (like 22 or so I think?) and he has gone against Brzenk in at least 1 supermatch I think more. Same with Alexey Semerenko. Denis and his coach probably don't think Denis is ready for Devon yet... I would be interested in a supermatch between Andrey Pushkar and Denis right handed, I wish they had pulled right as well as left last June. Pushkaris ranked 3rd in the world, what do you guys think about that match, would Pushkar's hook beat Denis's and if not is his toproll good enough to take Denis's hand? Edited January 21, 2009 by Josh H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviper42 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 IMO younger guys are at a disadvantage to the guys in their 30's/early 40's. Why you ask? Their joints and connective tissue are better developed at that point. Also, if I were to predict a result, I do not think that Andrey Pushkar can beat Cyplenkov in any position. I don't think his hook can win, and I don't think he could toproll Denis enough to win. But who knows? That's why we compete. To see the outcome. After all, Tim Bresnan did manage to toproll Denis, however he let off pressure for a split second and denis was able to hook him back in and outpower him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikkonen Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 i dont think pushkar is 3rd best in the world. i wouldnt put him in top 10 tbh, denis would crush pushkar easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviper42 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Didn't Pushkar place first at WAF Worlds this year? That should surely at the very least place him in top 10. Edited January 21, 2009 by thewalrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthsith19 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I personally didn't say Pushkar was 3rd, I said he is ranked 3rd, and he is, on Engin's rankings at worldofarmwrestling.com. Yes Andrey Pushkar won WAF worlds in the super heavy's right and left handed, pretty easily, too (he smashed Paul Fisher when they went right handed). I don't know why Pushkar is ranked 3rd personally but for sure in the top 10, Travis Bagent beat him in their supermatcha few years ago right handed so I'm not sure why he's ranked lower than Pushkar but I am sure Engin has his reasons and he knows a lot more than me. the walrus, I agree with you, about younger guys being at a distadvantage, though older guys usually say the opposite! I just watched a Ron Bath interview on ArmTv the other day and he said he peaked in the late 90's (he would have been 35-40 during that time). At the ROTN Cobra Rhodes said Allen Fisher's hit is the ebst it's ever been right now, at age 52. raikkonen, if Pushkar shouldn't be in the top 10 then who do you think the top 10 should be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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