Glenni Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Are there any bending experts in here that can tell me if this bending technique is allowed to use during certification? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Should be, looks like a weird reverse bend to start. Not sure how well it would work on harder bars, seems like it would be real bad on your shoulders if you slipped. P.s. there is a specific bending forum also 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Glenni said: Are there any bending experts in here that can tell me if this bending technique is allowed to use during certification? Off-hand, I would think so, as long as you are not posting or bracing in any way. Never saw a kink like that. I would think that it would be very difficult to start a Red with this style, and like Wobbler wrote, injury due to slipping would be bad. How long have you been bending like this? And have you bent any other types of stock? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donc101 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Check out the videos here for technique: https://www.gripboard.com/index.php?/topic/43922-collection-of-the-important-bending-videos/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Buccos1 said: Off-hand, I would think so, as long as you are not posting or bracing in any way. Never saw a kink like that. I would think that it would be very difficult to start a Red with this style, and like Wobbler wrote, injury due to slipping would be bad. How long have you been bending like this? And have you bent any other types of stock? This is the second time I try IM nails, have never bent something else before. I also managed lev4 in this way with not too much trouble. I'm to stiff to bend in the normal way, where the nail is placed between the chin and the chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Young Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Glenni said: This is the second time I try IM nails, have never bent something else before. I also managed lev4 in this way with not too much trouble. I'm to stiff to bend in the normal way, where the nail is placed between the chin and the chest. If You are too stiff for that style just try either reverse or double underhand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Danny Young said: If You are too stiff for that style just try either reverse or double underhand. I'll try the next bending session Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Glenni said: This is the second time I try IM nails, have never bent something else before. I also managed lev4 in this way with not too much trouble. I'm to stiff to bend in the normal way, where the nail is placed between the chin and the chest. You will get the most power with double-overhand. Do you have the most trouble with 7" stock or have you experimented any with varying lengths? Years back, my flexibility was poor for DO, but this was overcome with a lot of repetition, with easier 7 and 7.5" stock. Up until recently, I didn't have too much trouble with getting into position. (The trouble now is more due to wear-and-tear and age.) There are a lot of things to do to improve flexibility, specifically to get into position for double overhand bending. A lot of guys have had great success with double-underhand, especially guys that cannot do DO anymore due to injuries or time. Like Danny mentioned, DU and reverse are great styles, which are not flexibility-dependent. Double-underhand is a very versatile style of bending from modified, to gain leverage, to strict, wraps-touching, wrist-dependent bending. The entire spectrum will test you in different ways, and is not really influenced by flexibility. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Young Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Glenni said: I'll try the next bending session Just make sure you buy some 3/16" round and square to start off with. Find out where you are with reverse and DU. You'll be very surprised how difficult an Ironmind yellow can be with those styles. Because I remember my first DU bend with one and it wasn't easy at all. Edited August 8, 2018 by Danny Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Buccos1 said: You will get the most power with double-overhand. Do you have the most trouble with 7" stock or have you experimented any with varying lengths? Years back, my flexibility was poor for DO, but this was overcome with a lot of repetition, with easier 7 and 7.5" stock. Up until recently, I didn't have too much trouble with getting into position. (The trouble now is more due to wear-and-tear and age.) There are a lot of things to do to improve flexibility, specifically to get into position for double overhand bending. A lot of guys have had great success with double-underhand, especially guys that cannot do DO anymore due to injuries or time. Like Danny mentioned, DU and reverse are great styles, which are not flexibility-dependent. Double-underhand is a very versatile style of bending from modified, to gain leverage, to strict, wraps-touching, wrist-dependent bending. The entire spectrum will test you in different ways, and is not really influenced by flexibility. No I have only tryed these lengths of IM nails. Thanks for your help appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist of Fury Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I don't think you're allowed to leave the rubber bands on when you do the bend for ironmind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankD Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Fist of Fury said: I don't think you're allowed to leave the rubber bands on when you do the bend for ironmind. You are correct. For the red nail cert, you have to take the bands off the wraps before the bend starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Fist of Fury said: I don't think you're allowed to leave the rubber bands on when you do the bend for ironmind. Yes, I'm aware of it. But thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/7/2018 at 11:46 AM, Buccos1 said: Off-hand, I would think so, as long as you are not posting or bracing in any way. Never saw a kink like that. I would think that it would be very difficult to start a Red with this style, and like Wobbler wrote, injury due to slipping would be bad. How long have you been bending like this? And have you bent any other types of stock? I haven't seen this kink style in years! My friend Chad kinked (@ 25 degrees) a Big Bastard with that exact style about a month before he died back in 2011. He was set to get his shoulder fixed and was still able to do that. It seems to be a very inefficient style to work with on a regular basis. This is just my opinion, of course. But I think you will be injured more frequently with this style than the others. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 On August 9, 2018 at 12:08 AM, bencrush said: I haven't seen this kink style in years! My friend Chad kinked (@ 25 degrees) a Big Bastard with that exact style about a month before he died back in 2011. He was set to get his shoulder fixed and was still able to do that. That's pretty incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Today I tryed reverse bending for the first time. I liked it. Next time I will try DU bending style Thanks for all the great tips guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Young Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Glenni said: Today I tryed reverse bending for the first time. I liked it. Next time I will try DU bending style Thanks for all the great tips guys Nice! Now continue training with the 1/4" CRS then also pick up 1/4" hex CRS and some 1/4" O-1 drill rod as well as letter "I" (.272") O-1 drill rod. Then you'll be ready for a 1/4" grade 5 @6". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenni Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Danny Young said: Nice! Now continue training with the 1/4" CRS then also pick up 1/4" hex CRS and some 1/4" O-1 drill rod as well as letter "I" (.272") O-1 drill rod. Then you'll be ready for a 1/4" grade 5 @6". Where can I get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Young Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, Glenni said: Where can I get them? I always order my O-1 drill rod & 1/4" CRS hex from mcmaster.com. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Very good starting point on your reverse bending! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton.Torrella Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Yea great first reverse bend! Looked very natural 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Nice! The reverse looked effortless. I bet you will be putting a hurtin' on grade 5s soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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