CFlaherty Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Quick question for anyone that has experience with the Vulcan. On the setting list it refers to the rear spring and the front spring. I am assuming that the rear spring is the one that would be in the palm on the thumb side and the front spring would be in the fingers, can anyone confirm this? Also I have been putting the side that is angled on my thumb side with the straight and longer handle in my fingers. Is this correct as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Juncker Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 @Jedd Johnson has some good videos explaining it but here is the gist. Your setup sounds correct as far as thumbside vs palm side Your spring determines the starting level but assuming you are using orange: Both sides of spring in the first notches is level 0. move the palm side up 1 for lvl1 Move palm back to 0, and finger side up 1 for lvl2 Move both sides up to notch 2 for lvl3. Basically every notch = 3 levels. If you have a black or chrome spring lvl0 is actually like level 3 or 6 i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFlaherty Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Adam Juncker said: @Jedd Johnson has some good videos explaining it but here is the gist. Your setup sounds correct as far as thumbside vs palm side Your spring determines the starting level but assuming you are using orange: Both sides of spring in the first notches is level 0. move the palm side up 1 for lvl1 Move palm back to 0, and finger side up 1 for lvl2 Move both sides up to notch 2 for lvl3. Basically every notch = 3 levels. If you have a black or chrome spring lvl0 is actually like level 3 or 6 i think. Cool thanks for the clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Savage Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Adam Juncker said: @Jedd Johnson has some good videos explaining it but here is the gist. Your setup sounds correct as far as thumbside vs palm side Your spring determines the starting level but assuming you are using orange: Both sides of spring in the first notches is level 0. move the palm side up 1 for lvl1 Move palm back to 0, and finger side up 1 for lvl2 Move both sides up to notch 2 for lvl3. Basically every notch = 3 levels. If you have a black or chrome spring lvl0 is actually like level 3 or 6 i think. I don't think there are any actual levels for the orange spring but I've been told that 11 and 11 is about a lvl 18, which seems about right after training on it. Your method would put it at a lvl 30. Vulcan levels are a bit confusing with all the different springs. The black one does start at level 3 and the crom at level 6 but the crom levels are significantly harder to set / harder through the full ROM so personally I would say you can't really accurately compare the different springs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFlaherty Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, Paul Savage said: I don't think there are any actual levels for the orange spring but I've been told that 11 and 11 is about a lvl 18, which seems about right after training on it. Your method would put it at a lvl 30. Vulcan levels are a bit confusing with all the different springs. The black one does start at level 3 and the crom at level 6 but the crom levels are significantly harder to set / harder through the full ROM so personally I would say you can't really accurately compare the different springs. I have the Crom spring and it is really tough to set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Juncker Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Paul Savage said: I don't think there are any actual levels for the orange spring but I've been told that 11 and 11 is about a lvl 18, which seems about right after training on it. Your method would put it at a lvl 30. Vulcan levels are a bit confusing with all the different springs. The black one does start at level 3 and the crom at level 6 but the crom levels are significantly harder to set / harder through the full ROM so personally I would say you can't really accurately compare the different springs. I agree, I have an orange, black, and chrome spring and you can't really compare them. @CFlaherty, I would just document which spring you use and the notch settings for training purposes. It's kind of like gripper rating before the RGC method was established. Levels are a bit ambiguous and difficult to objectively compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termy Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Bump. I'm interested in getting a vulcan gripper, but with all the different springs it's difficult to know which one I should get. I'm a gripper newbie. Is it better to get more than one spring, and if so, which ones? On David Hornes website it says only crom and orange are available right now. Might I as well get both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anemptybox Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Get both because the crom spring is very tough. Orange levels goes from super easy to maybe CoC 2.5 or something, while crom goes from CoC 1.5 to 4++++. Just a very rough estimate so you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Termy Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 51 minutes ago, Anemptybox said: Get both because the crom spring is very tough. Orange levels goes from super easy to maybe CoC 2.5 or something, while crom goes from CoC 1.5 to 4++++. Just a very rough estimate so you get the idea. Alright, thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Are the gold springs still produced? I like it a lot, seems pretty consistent. But even between the Vulcan batches themselves there are differences in spread which make the whole feel of spring also hard to compare if you have a Vulcan V1 vs V2. Edited October 15, 2017 by Geralt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) PLEASE NOTE: ONLY CROM AND ORANGE SPRINGS AVAILABLE David said on his ws directly after the pic of the springs. Cant say anything about the V1 only have the later V2. But handles seem to have the same angle!? Edited October 16, 2017 by Stewy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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