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#1 OFFLINE   Steve Krebs

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:32 AM

I just saw this on your website. What does this load up to?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:14 AM

Dependent on the media you use to fill it it is like a clone sized shell of an Inch type dumbbell. If it were filled tightly with lead shot ( smaller shot sizes pack better) you could with lead being much more dense than cast iron be able to get a bell pushing 200 lbs if the table of elements is correct. Some of our larger custom bells we have been making literally could be loaded far over the ability of any human.We did a special one with a large fill port the other day with 12 " spheres that could be easily loaded to over 500.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

What does it weigh empty?



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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:01 PM

The larger shell was 37 and the Bosco type is 13 empty.
We also have developed and fabricated the bells used at the Arnold's Sports Festival the now universally accepted strongman Circus Bell. These are of much heavier construction being virtually unbreakable. The two sizes for them are 80 and 120lb for a 10 inch and 12 inch globe size while empty.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:54 PM

Aaaaand now I want one. Wonder if it's too late to revise my Christmas list....

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

I'm interested.  What size are the globes?  Also, would it be possible to have one made with a smaller diameter but longer barbell length handle?



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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:24 AM

You can contact us and we can do custom orders.just indicate to my staff member what you are looking for and tell them to put it to my attention. If you have the time to call I would be personally glad to speak and work with you .I have several pieces of vintage looking globe bells and ring weights... everyone seems to enjoy them. We brought one to the Stark Museum opening and Arnold himself was one of the first to sign it along with other greats of Iron History. It has become a piece I will always treasure.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

If this can be loaded up to 200lbs, I will be purchasing one in the beginning of the year.



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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:27 AM

Be reminded we use two thicknesses of steel for the globe ends. If you are going to need a unit to be used under abusive conditions the thick shell models need to be considered. The thinner steel globes as used on our war hammer trainers is designed for display and impact/dropping only on soft or rubber surfaces much like the old globe bells. The bells can be loaded with different types of media to adjust weight.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:55 PM

The one thing that I am concerned about is the size of the globes.  I have a slaters hardware show bell with 8" globes.  Using the smallest lead shot I can only get it up to 124lbs.



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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

The one thing that I am concerned about is the size of the globes.  I have a slaters hardware show bell with 8" globes.  Using the smallest lead shot I can only get it up to 124lbs.

How thick is the handle on the show bell?



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:46 AM

We have done bells with handles 2, 2.5 and 3 inch diameter. These sizes seem to be a good range to suit most everyone. The Circus Bell we created for the Arnold's Strongman has a 3" handle. In answer to your question about possible filling weight on an 8 " globe end bell,...The steel takes up about 1/4" so we need to look at the space occupied by two voids of 7.75". That works out to a total for two spheres of .2667 cubic feet. Lead shot as per world listed standards is 711lbs. Per cubic foot, so In THEORY it should hold 189.6237 lb of shot, add 13lbs for the shell and it adds up to pretty close what my estimation was of 200. (202.637). If this actually is the case only science can say. I would think since an actual cast iron inch bell is far less dense at about 450 lb per cubic foot and an Inch bell weighs 172, lead being far more dense at 711 per cubic foot should raise the overall weight. The handle on a cast Iron inch is solid and the globe bell is hollow so that might offest some total weight. If someone has loaded a similar bell with small ,compacted ,lead shot and arrived at a lower weight I won't dispute their findings done in a real world setting. There are always larger globes! And....we can make them.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

Richard, if you could quote a price on a bell with 10" globes.  My email is skrebs001@hotmail.com. 

 

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:20 AM

Thanks for the interest I am checking with my suppliers several ways to do the bell. Hopefully I will soon have at least a heavy and light version pricing. I would be glad to consider a truly custom bell should you want any" extra trimming" on one. You can google the massive bell we did for the Mighty Mitts contest at the Arnold's to get an idea what we are capable of.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

I just ordered a Bosco bell, can't wait until its in my gym.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:13 AM

Has anyone loaded one of these up yet? Wondering how heavy some of you have got them.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:27 AM

I ended up getting one and love it.  I have it loaded up to about 80 something pounds now and use it for high rep rows.  I've also used it for power cleans but I stopped those at the moment.  It will easily load up to 200 lbs


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:36 PM

I ended up getting one and love it.  I have it loaded up to about 80 something pounds now and use it for high rep rows.  I've also used it for power cleans but I stopped those at the moment.  It will easily load up to 200 lbs

 

does the bell rotate like the inch does if its loaded up a decent ways... say to 150ish?



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:38 AM

I ended up getting one and love it.  I have it loaded up to about 80 something pounds now and use it for high rep rows.  I've also used it for power cleans but I stopped those at the moment.  It will easily load up to 200 lbs

 

does the bell rotate like the inch does if its loaded up a decent ways... say to 150ish?

I'm not exactly sure since I don't have it up that heavy, if I had to guess I would say yes, but probably not as dramatic as a real inch.  That's one draw back to the bell is that once it's loaded with shot it's hard to take the shot back out evenly.  So I have just been adding a cup full of shot to each side every few weeks and use it for bend over row and one arm power cleans.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:30 PM

I have my Bosco bell loaded up to 145# and sadly it is loaded and packed tight. I ordered 150lbs of lead shot from the US and had a buddy bring it over the boarder into Canada for me free of charge, and the shipping/freight on the shot was also free within the US. After getting the lead shot I was only able to load the bell up to 145# and this lead shot was small, a mixture of #7.5 and #8 from Rotometals.

Though I am happy about one thing, after filling the bell completely full and having the shot settle in the bell feels like a solid one piece dumbbell and has the rotational spin that I assume a legit cast iron inch (or baby inch in this case) would have. I can lift 180 pounds on the Iron Mind rolling thunder, I have also lifted 160lbs on a loadable handle with a 2 3/8" piece of pvc pipe on it and the Sorinex Bosco Bell still is a challenge, I can lift it but not at a whim like I can with 160# on a loadable handle. I plan on doing some kind of video review at some point for Sorinex, if they would want one.

Here are a few videos of mine:



The first video is from my first training session trying to lift the bell, I shook it around the second time to make sure there was no settling of the lead shot in the bell. The third and successful lift was from the same day, but due to heat and sweating from squats and speed deadlifts, I had to change my clothes. :grin:

Another video of a stronger lift, I apologize for the profanity. :shutup:



My only real suggestion to Sorinex would be to use a steel tube for the handle, one that is strong with a thick enough wall to not break, but hollow none the less to allow the handle itself to load with shot as well. Kind of hard to use this to train for the inch when you cannot load it up to a similar weight as the inch.

The only way I see myself getting this dumbbell up to 172lbs is by taking all the lead shot I have and melting it down and pouring it into the dumbbell. I may or may not do this some time down the road.




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