For overhead bending do you guys actually use your neck flexor muscles to help with the bend or
I meant double overhand, not overhead, lol
from the first post
Cheat kink a bar to varying degrees and work on finishing them.
any ideas how to do that if you have no tools available?
I did so much cheat kinking of various bars that I could do it with my eyes closed. Here's something to keep in mind on the topic of cheat kinking. HOW you cheat kink the bar is going to effect the rest of the bend.
So if you use pipes, like I did most of the time, you will kink the bar "tighter" - in more of a straight line, with no curve - than if you cheat kinked it by braced bending it against your leg. You might be thinking that there would be no difference. But there is a noticeable difference in a bar that is cheat kinked with pipes vs. one that is kinked either by another bender (unbraced) or by a braced kink.
The braced kink provides the best payoff in terms of making you work a bit harder (not counting the braced bending part in this working hard comment) on the sweep and crushdown. Because it will more closely mimic the way a bar bends when it is bent unbraced. The crushdown is always harder on a bar that is NOT cheat kinked with pipes.
I've talked to a few other elite benders about this over the years. All of us agree that cheat kinking with a pipe negates some of the difficulty of the sweep and especially the crushdown. That doesn't mean it's worthless. Far from it. In fact, like I mentioned, I cheat kinked most of my bars with the pipes because it's so much easier and faster. And easier.
You said you have no "tools available." It's worth it (if you are going to bend a lot of steel over the coming years) to shell out a bit of cash at the hardware store and just buy some pipe to cheat kink the bars with. Mine were mismatched, but the general measurements were both about 2 feet long. The inside diameter was about 1/2". I cheat kinked KOABs, MOABs, and everything I wanted to work on.
It might've been Aaron (acorn) who used to put metal "caps" on the ends of bars to use as additional leverage...pure genius. Not his only pure genius contribution to bending, but one that is not talked about much.
thanks Ben, this helps a lot!