Lucasraymond Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, climber511 said: People don’t want to have to travel – that I understand but by gaining one thing we will certainly lose out on what has always been the best thing about Grip Nationals – that “I worked my ass off and here I stand with the best in the world at something, all under one roof going head to head with the very best”. You aren’t going to have that with multiple venues. Things that come too easily have very little value in the long run. I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, climber511 said: People don’t want to have to travel – that I understand but by gaining one thing we will certainly lose out on what has always been the best thing about Grip Nationals – that “I worked my ass off and here I stand with the best in the world at something, all under one roof going head to head with the very best”. You aren’t going to have that with multiple venues. Things that come too easily have very little value in the long run. Yup, I agree that's why I'm being patient and gaining strength. I want to be competitive and not an easy win for Jedd..or anyone else. Screw that, even if I lose as long as gave one of the top guys a hard time on the field of combat, I would be happy. Can't win them all but if I'm going to spring the money to go a national event with the best, I need to be the best. I think a Novice division is what's needed. That way people can get that taste, they win the division they can't compete in novice. Since we are a small group it shouldn't be too hard to track and make sure strong people aren't trophy hunting. That's one aspect of NAS I like, win novice you move up, if the contest is heavy, train harder. Or be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwnate Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 hours ago, climber511 said: People don’t want to have to travel – that I understand but by gaining one thing we will certainly lose out on what has always been the best thing about Grip Nationals – that “I worked my ass off and here I stand with the best in the world at something, all under one roof going head to head with the very best”. You aren’t going to have that with multiple venues. Things that come too easily have very little value in the long run. 17 minutes ago, Lucasraymond said: I agree! From my heart...I agree with you @climber511 (and @Lucasraymond). From my head...I'm not so sure. I don't know how many on the board read and then analysed the NAGSC stats I pinned, but... in the last 5 years, there have been... 58 (total) individual competitors at NAGSC. 3 people have gone 5 times in 5 years. 1 person has gone 4 times in 5 years. 5 people have gone 3 times in 5 years. 8 people have gone 2 times in 5 years. 41 people have gone 1 time and have yet to come back. If that's okay with you...well then, don't make any changes in Gripsport in the U.S...and nothing will change. If it's not, then we need to talk about it. I think it would be great if Gripsport reached a "tipping point"...where the numbers of gripsters created a momentum that would carry it forward (like...errr Crossfit?). I think it's obvious that we are not there yet. I'll train grip whether or not it gets bigger, or whether or not there are contests, but I feel that the majority of people would like the sport to grow (and that's how I lean also). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Parker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I am attending Nationals this year. This will be my first time although I have been meaning to go for awhile. I have competed at least a dozen times in grip, but my location in Michigan has given me many opportunities to compete without have to drive more than 3 hours. Gripmas is the furthest I have traveled, I think it was in 2009, and it was about a 6 hour drive. I had a great time, one of my favorite contests, but lately I've been vacationing in Florida around that time so I haven't made it back. If I am going to travel farther than a few hours and spend money on food hotels etc. I want to be able to train specifically for a contest for at least 3 months. Last year I was not able to do this so I didn't go. This year I was and I am looking forward to it regardless of my placing. That being said, Nationals are only about 4 hours from me so I can drive. If it was in California I probably would not go as financially it just would not be possible for me unless I sacrificed money that I could be spending on my family for vacation, something I would not do. I think regionals sounds like a great idea. For nationals I like the sound of a novice division that has no qualification standards. It would be really beneficial for newer guys to see Nationals and still get to compete even though they are not on the strength level with National competitions that have met qualification standards. It sounds like a lot of guys would like to go but do not feel "ready" yet or can't qualify. For those of you that this describes, would a novice division get you to come to Nationals and compete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Jeff Parker said: For nationals I like the sound of a novice division that has no qualification standards. It would be really beneficial for newer guys to see Nationals and still get to compete even though they are not on the strength level with National competitions that have met qualification standards. It sounds like a lot of guys would like to go but do not feel "ready" yet or can't qualify. For those of you that this describes, would a novice division get you to come to Nationals and compete? Absolutely not, it would be like any other contest in that case. When I think of nationals I think of folk who've competed in the season and won, and qualified. I think novice should be just be regulated to the "Contest Season" If you don't meet the required qualification to go to nationals simply train harder. I keep going back to how North American Strongman does it, because I believe that's a model that works. If you win a novice division in a regular contest, then you should bump up to open classes/divisions. Top 3 in the open should get to go to nationals, and or those that have completed the already established qual standards. I see no reason in fluffing the qualifications to boost numbers. What could also be done is have regionals as the stepping stone to Nationals. With the top 3 in each class from regular contest going to regionals (again numbers matter here) I can't for the life of me figure out any other way to boost numbers other then setting up contests in conjunction with Expos, and with other strength contests. Another Idea is set up a GripBoard booth at the arnold and have people try all the cool toys we mess with. WE as community buy the spot and a bunch of us congregate there and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 National's should be earned! Novice division is fine for regular competition but at National's - no way! You earn the right to stand on that stage - and until you do you're a spectator there. Lots of different regular comps being held these days - Nationals are supposed to be the Olympics of Grip Sport. The only thing that should be of a higher standard is if someone manages to put together a "World Championship" - for which qualifications should be even higher. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwnate Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, climber511 said: National's should be earned! Novice division is fine for regular competition but at National's - no way! You earn the right to stand on that stage - and until you do you're a spectator there. Lots of different regular comps being held these days - Nationals are supposed to be the Olympics of Grip Sport. The only thing that should be of a higher standard is if someone manages to put together a "World Championship" - for which qualifications should be even higher. World Championship sounds mind blowing. I guess this thread kind of took a turn when there were questions about attendance. I apologize for my part in it. Perhaps there should be a different thread created to address those concerns? I'll throw one out there. Now...back to NAGSC 2016. GL attendees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 This is still what we've got at this point (below). I'm not opposed to letting more people sign up if they missed the deadline, HOWEVER, Andrew and I are deciding how to award medals this year, so if the numbers all of a sudden shift in a big way any later in the game than this, there is definitely a chance that enough medals will not be able to be ordered. Just an FYI. Women Maria Bascetta Men 83kg Michael Rogowski 93kg Lucas Raymond Gil Goodman 105kg Jeff Parker Andrew Durniat Jake Sahlaney 120kg Jedd Johnson Andrew Pantke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenze646 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 These look like some good match ups in most classes. I think we are going to see a fight for the overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 @nickr104, Nick Rosendaul informed me this morning that the prior commitment he had has changed, and would like to attend Nationals. He then provided 3 qualification videos that show he appears to be stronger than ever, primarily based on Strongman-related grip work. So, the updated list is: Women Maria Bascetta Men 83kg Michael Rogowski 93kg Lucas Raymond Gil Goodman 105kg Jeff Parker Andrew Durniat Jake Sahlaney 120kg Jedd Johnson Andrew Pantke Nick Rosendaul 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStepien Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I have mixed feelings about a novice division at nationals. If I'm going to nationals to compete with the best of the best. I want to hang with them the whole way. I believe I could in a year or 2, if I'm still training for grip sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 On 5/30/2016 at 1:10 PM, JStepien said: I have mixed feelings about a novice division at nationals. If I'm going to nationals to compete with the best of the best. I want to hang with them the whole way. I believe I could in a year or 2, if I'm still training for grip sport. I think you're being very hard on yourself. Your numbers are very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwnate Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jedd Johnson said: I think you're being very hard on yourself. Your numbers are very good. Based on his FB posts...I actually think he's got an odd (depreciative) sense of humor Jedd. You are correct...and I fully expect him to impress everyone in 10 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStepien Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Honestly, I agree, probably, being too hard. I've have really not trained for SJ3. Usually, under 2 weeks to an event, I'm excited, but lately, I've been depressed as hell Edited June 1, 2016 by JStepien Missed word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Good Luck and safe travels to everyone going to Nationals this weekend! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenze646 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Safe travels and big lifts everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 A small but mighty field. I'm really curious to see who wins the 93kg class. With this line-up of events, I really think it could go either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasraymond Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 44 minutes ago, Eric Roussin said: A small but mighty field. I'm really curious to see who wins the 93kg class. With this line-up of events, I really think it could go either way. Gil...no questions! Im no where peaked for grip right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's that sledge event that I think you may be able to really make up for other events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Best of luck fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Results: Weigh-In (pounds) Maria Bascett - 151.0 Andrew Durniat - 220.0 Gil Goodman - 204.8 Jedd Johnson - 248.3 Andrew Pantke - 236.2 Jeff Parker - 226.4 Lucas Raymond - 204.8 Michael Rogowski - 177.0 Nic Rosendaul - 249.0 Jacob Sahlaney - 238.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Right Hand Gripper (in pounds) Nic Rosendaul - 135 Jake Sahlaney - 140 Maria Bascetta - 66 Gil Goodman - 175 Andrew Pantke - 140 Mike Rogowski - 135 Jeff Parker - 160 Luke Raymond - 150 Andrew Durniat - 165 Jedd Johnson - 175 Left Hand Gripper (in pounds) Nic Rosendaul - 110 Jake Sahlaney - 150 Maria Bascetta - 70.9 Gil Goodman - 165 Andrew Pantke - 125 Mike Rogowski - 125 Jeff Parker - 145 Luke Raymond - 145 Andrew Durniat - 155 Jedd Johnson - 160 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 2 Hands Pinch Nic Rosendaul - 182.73 (64mm) Jake Sahlaney - 202.32 (58mm) Maria Bascetta - 104.70 (44mm) Gil Goodman - 192.04 (58mm) Andrew Pantke - 171.45 (50mm) Mike Rogowski - 185.41 (44mm) Jeff Parker - 202.32 (58mm) Luke Raymond - 202.32 (58mm) Andrew Durniat - 201.87 (54mm) Jedd Johnson - 237.26 (58mm) 2" Axle Deadlift Nic Rosendaul - 303.47 Jake Sahlaney - 343.16 Maria Bascetta - 157.97 Gil Goodman - 402.68 Andrew Pantke - 310.09 Mike Rogowski - 310.09 Jeff Parker - 290.25 Luke Raymond - 336.54 Andrew Durniat - 422.52 Jedd Johnson - 396.07 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Sledge Rotation total score Nic Rosendaul - 0.5 Jake Sahlaney - 15 Maria Bascetta - did not compete Gil Goodman - 16 Andrew Pantke - 4.5 Mike Rogowski - 9 Jeff Parker - 19 Luke Raymond - 12 Andrew Durniat - 13.5 Jedd Johnson - 26 Medley total score (time of last item lifted) Nic Rosendaul - 6.5 (43.39sec.) Jake Sahlaney - 5 (58.88sec.) Maria Bascetta - did not compete Gil Goodman - 10.5 (57.64sec.) Andrew Pantke - did not compete Mike Rogowski - 5.5 (36.81sec.) Jeff Parker - 6.5 (47.58sec) Luke Raymond - 9 (53.53sec) Andrew Durniat - 10 (57.18sec) Jedd Johnson - 9.5 (59.2sec) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Final Placings: 83kg class 1st place - Mike Rogowski 93kg class 1st place - Gil Goodman 2nd place - Lucas Raymond 105kg class 1st place - Andrew Durniat 2nd place - Jeff Parker 120kg class 1st place - Jedd Johnson 2nd place - Jake Sahlaney 3rd place - Nic Rosendaul 4th place - Andrew Pantke Women 1st place - Maria Bascetta Absolue Scoring Jedd Johnson (48.275) Gil Goodman (43.778) Andrew Durniat (42.636) Lucas Raymond (38.356) Jeff Parker (37.866) Jake Sahlaney (35.710) Mike Rogowski (29.462) Nic Rosendaul (28.711) Andrew Pantke (24.090) Diesel Award Mike Rogowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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