143.5 kg fake dyno score video from the standing man

[C8Myotome]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8fdwLDv0OI/ 

2 hands very obviously being used together to push more force into the dyno to get a higher score on what looks like an off model gm150 imitation, after spending a lot of time video editing several other people's high dyno scores like larry wheels etc to try to make the standing man look way stronger in comparison, even though this is a very obviously cheated attempt as 2 hands were used

In case anyone forgot the standing man is/was a teenager from brazil who got noticed for posting videos of repping a coc 3.5 from ccs, then when questioned on legitimacy all he could produce was a near-mms fail of the same gripper later on, I believe he said he was planning to certify the 3 to prove his authenticity and this never happened

I'm just leaving the fake dyno claim video here so people can decide for themselves what they think about the claims of repping a coc 3.5 ccs at 17 years old, while being unable to cert the 3, and posting fake dyno videos like this as well.

I also have this video downloaded in case he tries to delete it.

[Slipshod]

Not familiar with the history, but tried similar on my GD-150 and it only added about 5kg, however the design of that is not really conducive to getting much of an advantage from the method displayed. The more open and wider frame of the GM 150 would allow more ability to apply force without actually touching the handles.

Regardless, any contact with the non gripping hand should invalidate any claims of strength. If it "did not provide any advantage" then it should be repeatable without the other hand on the device, which I look forward to not being proven

[C8Myotome]

9 minutes ago, Slipshod said:

Not familiar with the history, but tried similar on my GD-150 and it only added about 5kg, however the design of that is not really conducive to getting much of an advantage from the method displayed. The more open and wider frame of the GM 150 would allow more ability to apply force without actually touching the handles.

Regardless, any contact with the non gripping hand should invalidate any claims of strength. If it "did not provide any advantage" then it should be repeatable without the other hand on the device, which I look forward to not being proven

Right...no matter how much it adds, it is adding something, and being intentionally done. It is also extremely demeaning and belittling to edit in a bunch of other strength athletes into the first part of the video just to post a fake/cheat attempt of yourself right after to make an unsubstantiated claim.

I considered him in a grace period of giving him time to prove himself over all the gripper claims, so finding something like this seems to be a 180 in the complete opposite direction.

[Londonjoseph]

I'm sure he could still produce a large number on the dynamometer. 

I consider any two hands close on a gripper (like holding the spring) to not be valid. Same with dynamometer. 

 

However, I do think he proved his legitimacy well enough in the past. 

[Jared P]

143.5 kg is a huge number, and would be Top 10 in the world on the GM150 if done properly. But this particular attempt definitely wouldn't pass the GM150 rules:
 

Quote

 

"Record your attempt on video with a sufficiently high image definition and level of detail:

+ Show GM150 from all sides

+ Press the button to reset the readings.

+ Place your hand in the center of the GM150 handles, squeeze them and show the final result. The GM150 and the hand that squeezes should be in the frame.

+ It is forbidden to rest against the body and surrounding objects. It is forbidden to use plasters and bandages on the hands and on the handles of the GM150.

+ Be careful to remove the other hand in time, that is, before squeezing the handles of the GM150."

 

https://grippermania.ru/gm150/rules

https://grippermania.ru/gm150/ranking#m-abs

[dubyagrip]

Wow, that is pretty pathetic.

[TrenGrip]

30+ year old men trying to bully a teenager…

Edited September 29 by TrenGrip

[C8Myotome]

8 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said:

I'm sure he could still produce a large number on the dynamometer. 

I consider any two hands close on a gripper (like holding the spring) to not be valid. Same with dynamometer. 

 

However, I do think he proved his legitimacy well enough in the past. 

You have a very blurry line between legitimacy and illegitimacy.

Doing a few legit things in the past, if so, does not warrant all future attempts that person makes as also legitimate.

I don't doubt he could get over 100kg, it is not unrealistic for people that train, however like Jared said this would be in the top 10 for GM150 leaderboard which is an enormous claim to be making. His dyno claim is straight out lying. You're ok with that?

Not only would this be a fake video on its own, but the fact he took the time to edit to demean the strength of other people to try to make himself look better is extremely offputting and comes off as very narcisstic

You seem to be his #1 fan for some reason, so I guess you automatically give him on a pass on anything..very rational of you

Edited September 29 by C8Myotome

[dubyagrip]

2 minutes ago, TrenGrip said:

30+ year old men trying to bully a teenager…

Oh, get out of here with this victim mentality. If you post BS, expect to be called out.

[Londonjoseph]

Just now, C8Myotome said:

You have a very blurry line between legitimacy and illegitimacy.

Doing a few legit things in the past, if so, does not warrant all future attempts that person makes as also legitimate.

I don't doubt he could get over 100k, it is not unrealistic for people that train, however like Jared said this would be in the top 10 for GM150 leaderboard which is an enormous claim to be making. His dyno claim is straight out lying. You're ok with that?

Not only would this be a fake video on its own, but the fact he took the time to edit to demean the strength of other people to try to make himself look better is extremely offputting and comes off as very narcisstic

You seem to be his #1 fan for some reason, so I guess you automatically give him on a pass on anything..very rational of you

I'll try to answer this as politely as I can. 

 

This is an off-brand dynamometer. We don't know the conversion between this one and a legit gm-150. 

Is this a legit score? To me it doesn't count. Is there tampering, or anything like that to this off-brand device? I have no clue. 

Quite frankly, I do not think he could score that in a gm-150. 

 

His videos where he proved himself did show obvious strength. There is legitimacy in him being strong. 

Is there legitimacy in this dynamometer? 

Not to me, because it is off brand and a "braced" score. 

 

Quite frankly, I'm surprised you still think about him. 

[C8Myotome]

2 minutes ago, TrenGrip said:

30+ year old men trying to bully a teenager…

Age has nothing to do with anything. If you don't want to be called out, don't make a fake dyno video and try to pass yourself off as better than many other actual strong people. Plain and simple. If this was done with a gm150 and send to Vano this would automatically be rejected. 

[Luke Blackwell]

Some punk to think he can hang with Brian shaw and Larry wheels with his illegitimate pull

[C8Myotome]

3 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said:

I'll try to answer this as politely as I can. 

 

This is an off-brand dynamometer. We don't know the conversion between this one and a legit gm-150. 

Is this a legit score? To me it doesn't count. Is there tampering, or anything like that to this off-brand device? I have no clue. 

Quite frankly, I do not think he could score that in a gm-150. 

 

His videos where he proved himself did show obvious strength. There is legitimacy in him being strong. 

Is there legitimacy in this dynamometer? 

Not to me, because it is off brand and a "braced" score. 

 

Quite frankly, I'm surprised you still think about him. 

I don't, the reason this came up is becuase you mentioned him on gripboard yesterday in a very vulgar post about me which mods had to delete due to your language, so don't try to pretend that I sit around thinking about people I don't care about. So you know very well for a fact why this came up within the last 24 hours because it is 100% of your doing, try to keep sounding cool though.

[Londonjoseph]

1 minute ago, C8Myotome said:

I don't, the reason this came up is becuase you mentioned him on gripboard yesterday in a very vulgar post about me which mods had to delete due to your language, so don't try to pretend that I sit around thinking about people I don't care about. So you know very well for a fact why this came up within the last 24 hours because it is 100% of your doing, try to keep sounding cool though.

So one comment on a thread made you upset enough to dig around that kid's Instagram page, to find something to post? 

 

And yet you do not care? 

[C8Myotome]

Just now, Londonjoseph said:

So one comment on a thread made you upset enough to dig around that kid's Instagram page, to find something to post? 

 

And yet you do not care? 

Who said anyone was upset, that's quite an inference to make...he came up in converastion, the dyno video was actually sent to me by someone else, if that person chooses to say who they are on here that's great but i otherwise will not out them.

Cheaters and liars are annoying.

You are impossible to have a normal conversation with though so I am not going to further engage just you specifically, I don't value anything you have to say. Have a nice day buddy

[TrenGrip]

5 minutes ago, dubyagrip said:

Oh, get out of here with this victim mentality. If you post BS, expect to be called out.

He’s a teen doing what teens do and what people in this community are still doing past being a teen. Cough cough. Doubling down doesn’t make the sport look better, if anything it’s doing the opposite. And unironically it isn’t even victim mentality lmao, its literally just grown men angry at a teen and that’s truly pathetic 

[Londonjoseph]

2 minutes ago, C8Myotome said:

Who said anyone was upset, that's quite an inference to make...he came up in converastion, the dyno video was actually sent to me by someone else, if that person chooses to say who they are on here that's great but i otherwise will not out them.

Cheaters and liars are annoying.

You are impossible to have a normal conversation with though so I am not going to further engage just you specifically, I don't value anything you have to say. Have a nice day buddy

I wish you the best Derek, and I hope you can get whatever help you need. 

[dubyagrip]

3 minutes ago, TrenGrip said:

He’s a teen doing what teens do and what people in this community are still doing past being a teen. Cough cough. Doubling down doesn’t make the sport look better, if anything it’s doing the opposite. And unironically it isn’t even victim mentality lmao, its literally just grown men angry at a teen and that’s truly pathetic 

What?

[Luke Blackwell]

It's quite fascinating to sit back on a forum and watch all the petty, micro-arguments break out. Such a dynamic...

[Glitch]

Hang on.

Let's view the two possible scenarios. We know for a fact that he is a teenager, so I'll assume that in the following:

A: This guy is cheating. So he's a teenager who's trying to make it seem like he can do some grip feats. Teenagers do stupid things. We all have bigger problems in our lives than that.

B: This guy is legit. So why go digging for people, even teenagers, to accuse of cheating?

Let's grow up. It's not like this guy is harassing you or belittling you. If anything, you are doing both of those things right now.

[C8Myotome]

So someone old enough now to join the military doesn't have to follow the same rules adults do for demonstration of and claims of strength because they're just a wittle baby? Aww..

He's probably 18-20 now.

We held other teenagers like Ivan to the highest standard of strength and honesty, and they continually delivered 

Proposing the idea of treating adults and teenagers differently when it comes to leniency on telling the truth regarding strength claims is downright weird and a bit creepy. 

You guys are weird, and this is a weird website

[Glitch]

4 minutes ago, C8Myotome said:

So someone old enough now to join the military doesn't have to follow the same rules adults do for demonstration of and claims of strength because they're just a wittle baby? Aww..

All I'm proposing is that instead of witchhunting, the better approach to this situation would be to simply ignore the person involved and should they be a cheater, let them exist in their own bubble until they have something to prove for themselves. I can claim to lift 50 kilos with a Hub all I want, but nobody should care until I'd have solid proof to prove I can indeed do it.

As the saying goes, don't feed the troll (assuming this guy is a cheater).

[EmilBB]

5 minutes ago, Glitch said:

All I'm proposing is that instead of witchhunting, the better approach to this situation would be to simply ignore the person involved and should they be a cheater, let them exist in their own bubble until they have something to prove for themselves. I can claim to lift 50 kilos with a Hub all I want, but nobody should care until I'd have solid proof to prove I can indeed do it.

As the saying goes, don't feed the troll (assuming this guy is a cheater).

I think it's better to just be honest and tell him that he's cheating, he should learn from his mistake and improve from there. If everyone just ignores it and lets him cheat, then he won't learn anything and he'll just think he can get away with cheating in the future.

Edited September 29 by EmilBB

[Glitch]

1 minute ago, EmilBB said:

I think it's better to just be honest and tell him that he's cheating, he should learn from his mistake and improve from there. If everyone just ignores it and lets him cheat, then he won't learn anything and he'll just think he can get away with cheating in the future.

The problem here is that we don't know for sure that he is 100% cheating.

There is a fine line between holding someone accountable with questionable proof vs harassing someone.

[C8Myotome]

Just now, Glitch said:

The problem here is that we don't know for sure that he is 100% cheating.

There is a fine line between holding someone accountable with questionable proof vs harassing someone.

2 hands used during a dyno pull is cheating...did you watch the video?