Grepm.m Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Hi, I’ve tried to put together a list of all the people who’ve lifted the Millenium dumbbell off the floor. The list is in no particular order. Please comment if you know of someone else who’ve done it, or if you disagree with a mention. Millennium dumbbell Odd Haugen (https://youtu.be/JFUGA2-5vqs?si=z1mw5_nMFsC7PSjW) Laine Snook (https://youtu.be/IVug9V8KE88?si=WSwNFZVFtujmAOsK) Khaled (https://youtu.be/EzLm8SBoKe0?si=wqG9XOISV_pV_z70) Brian Shaw (https://youtu.be/Qguqcyzi-WI?si=8PAs-9TlJ9vtC3A6) Carl Myerscough (https://youtu.be/u9RirrLe1OY?si=wu-ZIksmJHLQK2Zz) Joeseph Hodgson (https://youtube.com/shorts/uynqPoj3Ojs?si=VkRI073vgYMD_CCo) Nathan Holle Steve Gardener (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR8QVSOLMuQ Tanner Merkle (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca7rdjtLDI7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) Ron Mazza (https://youtu.be/7of-j6cBV4M?si=oLq-y1MFUtL4LR1H) Lecho Vasilis (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Uc7oJIezG/?igsh=MTJtbThkMzJ1aWZvZQ==) Ben Helms (https://youtube.com/shorts/rCvLHZF7Zuc?si=pCgykGcFayVi_h_w) Honourable mention: Mark Felix, he didn’t lock it out, but it looks like it’s hovering. My guess is that he didn’t want to risk dropping it on the concrete floor. (https://youtu.be/w5NYcFj0dvk?si=JsB2IXjDxN1jcJqJ Anyone else? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilBB Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) Fip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLvrI56XrCY Hussain Ali: https://youtu.be/qkPA0qbXhHY?t=335 @Alawadhi is there more people that have lifted the millennium in your gym? Edited August 30 by EmilBB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 5 hours ago, Grepm.m said: Hi, I’ve tried to put together a list of all the people who’ve lifted the Millenium dumbbell off the floor. The list is in no particular order. Please comment if you know of someone else who’ve done it, or if you disagree with a mention. Millennium dumbbell Odd Haugen (https://youtu.be/JFUGA2-5vqs?si=z1mw5_nMFsC7PSjW) Laine Snook (https://youtu.be/IVug9V8KE88?si=WSwNFZVFtujmAOsK) Khaled (https://youtu.be/EzLm8SBoKe0?si=wqG9XOISV_pV_z70) Brian Shaw (https://youtu.be/Qguqcyzi-WI?si=8PAs-9TlJ9vtC3A6) Carl Myerscough (https://youtu.be/u9RirrLe1OY?si=wu-ZIksmJHLQK2Zz) Joeseph Hodgson (https://youtube.com/shorts/uynqPoj3Ojs?si=VkRI073vgYMD_CCo) Nathan Holle Steve Gardener (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR8QVSOLMuQ Tanner Merkle (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca7rdjtLDI7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) Ron Mazza (https://youtu.be/7of-j6cBV4M?si=oLq-y1MFUtL4LR1H) Lecho Vasilis (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Uc7oJIezG/?igsh=MTJtbThkMzJ1aWZvZQ==) Ben Helms (https://youtube.com/shorts/rCvLHZF7Zuc?si=pCgykGcFayVi_h_w) Honourable mention: Mark Felix, he didn’t lock it out, but it looks like it’s hovering. My guess is that he didn’t want to risk dropping it on the concrete floor. (https://youtu.be/w5NYcFj0dvk?si=JsB2IXjDxN1jcJqJ Anyone else? Hi @Grepm.m, I noticed your introduction here and couldn’t help but be impressed by your strength. Could you remind me of your name? I also saw your interest in maintaining a list of those who have cleaned the Inch dumbbell, which is a commendable effort. However, I believe that any lift listed should be a genuine Millennium dumbbell lift, not a substitute like the 104 kg Holle dumbbell. After all, they are different dumbbells with different specs. While many strong individuals on this list likely have the potential to lift the Millennium, the list should remain accurate and only include those who have definitively done so. Additionally, I'd like to suggest reviewing older posts on the GripBoard, particularly those pre-2005, where the phrase 'word is bond' was discussed, as it underscores the importance of verifiable achievements. Definitive proof is necessary. While we respect strong individuals who claim they have lifted it, and I personally value their word, when it comes to maintaining a list, their word alone isn’t enough (Word isn't bond). If the list should include any honorary mentions, it would be valuable to clarify whether the lift was strict or tilted. This approach would enhance the list's credibility. 2 hours ago, EmilBB said: Fip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLvrI56XrCY Hussain Ali: https://youtu.be/qkPA0qbXhHY?t=335 @Alawadhi is there more people that have lifted the millennium in your gym? Yes, there are indeed a few individuals who have lifted the Millennium in my gym. However, I believe that anyone included on the list should have verifiable proof of their lift. My word alone isn't enough for a list (no one's word is, believing is something and a public list is another). While I know several strong lifters who have achieved this feat but prefer to avoid the camera, they should not be included without evidence. I also know others who are very strong and highly likely to succeed, but they have yet to attempt it. It's important to maintain the list’s integrity by only including confirmed lifts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywor Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 17 hours ago, Alawadhi said: Hi @Grepm.m, I noticed your introduction here and couldn’t help but be impressed by your strength. Could you remind me of your name? I also saw your interest in maintaining a list of those who have cleaned the Inch dumbbell, which is a commendable effort. However, I believe that any lift listed should be a genuine Millennium dumbbell lift, not a substitute like the 104 kg Holle dumbbell. After all, they are different dumbbells with different specs. While many strong individuals on this list likely have the potential to lift the Millennium, the list should remain accurate and only include those who have definitively done so. Additionally, I'd like to suggest reviewing older posts on the GripBoard, particularly those pre-2005, where the phrase 'word is bond' was discussed, as it underscores the importance of verifiable achievements. Definitive proof is necessary. While we respect strong individuals who claim they have lifted it, and I personally value their word, when it comes to maintaining a list, their word alone isn’t enough (Word isn't bond). If the list should include any honorary mentions, it would be valuable to clarify whether the lift was strict or tilted. This approach would enhance the list's credibility. Yes, there are indeed a few individuals who have lifted the Millennium in my gym. However, I believe that anyone included on the list should have verifiable proof of their lift. My word alone isn't enough for a list (no one's word is, believing is something and a public list is another). While I know several strong lifters who have achieved this feat but prefer to avoid the camera, they should not be included without evidence. I also know others who are very strong and highly likely to succeed, but they have yet to attempt it. It's important to maintain the list’s integrity by only including confirmed lifts. Well said! If we are listing tilted lifts as well with no limits to the tilt + using leg support to help with the tilt then I've lifted it I mean I dont think these kind of lifts should be posted on the same list as lifts like Carls. Totally different lift, and I don't consider my self someone who has lifted the Holle 104kg. Also agree that Holle replice is not Millenium as the handle length and history is different, and we should "respect" the originals. Holle bells and blobs are very cool for sure, just different. Edited August 31 by Mywor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepm.m Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 I agree that I shouldn’t have referred to the Holle 104 in the same manner as the Millenium. I’ll differentiate between them in the future! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist of Fury Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Whats the difference between them anyways, handle length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 11:02 AM, Mywor said: Well said! If we are listing tilted lifts as well with no limits to the tilt + using leg support to help with the tilt then I've lifted it I mean I dont think these kind of lifts should be posted on the same list as lifts like Carls. Totally different lift, and I don't consider my self someone who has lifted the Holle 104kg. Also agree that Holle replice is not Millenium as the handle length and history is different, and we should "respect" the originals. Holle bells and blobs are very cool for sure, just different. That is an amazing attempt. Well done, you will get the 104KG Holle Inch soon! On 8/31/2024 at 4:42 PM, Grepm.m said: I agree that I shouldn’t have referred to the Holle 104 in the same manner as the Millenium. I’ll differentiate between them in the future! Perfect. Can you remind me of your name? You’re not James from the old Jesse Marunde forum, are you? On 8/31/2024 at 5:01 PM, Fist of Fury said: Whats the difference between them anyways, handle length? Not much. The Holle 104KG Inch-style dumbbell has 4-inch handles, whereas the Millennium dumbbell has 5-inch handles. A 5-inch handle will be easier to tilt and lift than a 4-inch one. On the other hand, a 5-inch handle dumbbell is harder to lift in a strict manner than a 4-inch handle. The globes on the Holle Inch-style dumbbell are rough, which helps with friction when tilting. I think these are the main differences, but it's always good to call a spade a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepm.m Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, Alawadhi said: Can you remind me of your name? You’re not James from the old Jesse Marunde forum, are you? I can send you a PM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 14 hours ago, Grepm.m said: I can send you a PM! My PM is at full capacity. I cannot get any PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 27 minutes ago, Alawadhi said: My PM is at full capacity. I cannot get any PM. I'll donate 80% of my inbox capacity to you, come on Matt there's gotta be a way to do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 15 minutes ago, Climber028 said: I'll donate 80% of my inbox capacity to you, come on Matt there's gotta be a way to do this @Alawadhi has been a member since 2005, is a former sponsor of the forum, and has supported the community through MENA. There are only 6 individuals who joined the board earlier and have more posts. I put a band-aid on this for him. He will be able to receive another roughly 600 messages. After that, the limit is just the limit. The GripBoard is an interesting beast. I know from talking to INVISION that we are one of the oldest communities on the platform. There have been so many updates, revisions, total redesigns, features that have come and gone, plugins that are no longer supported, etc, that very few communities are as cumbersome as this 23-year-old. So there are all sorts of weird cases like this where it was probably possible to receive a bunch of messages before there was even a limit. And the limit has probably changed a zillion times. It looks like in this case he was impacted by a limit change at some point, who knows when, and then was suddenly at 300% of capacity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 hours ago, Climber028 said: I'll donate 80% of my inbox capacity to you, come on Matt there's gotta be a way to do this Thanks for the generous offer. I’m not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but I appreciate the humor. Honestly, I’m not familiar with the limits on PMs and all the new changes the board went through throughout the years. I just assumed I was at full capacity and didn’t want to delete any messages. That said, my dedication to grip sports is something I take very seriously. I’ve sponsored several individuals to come to the UAE at my own expense (yes it is expensive) to discuss how we can make grip sports bigger and better. Another thing, I sponsored Juha Harju to compete in the US at the Living Legends 2016 event, just so people could meet him and vice versa. I gained nothing from it personally, but seeing the sport grow makes me happy. There are many other contributions I’ve made that I’d prefer not to get into, but my commitment to the community and the sport is unwavering. 1 hour ago, Cannon said: @Alawadhi has been a member since 2005, is a former sponsor of the forum, and has supported the community through MENA. There are only 6 individuals who joined the board earlier and have more posts. I put a band-aid on this for him. He will be able to receive another roughly 600 messages. After that, the limit is just the limit. The GripBoard is an interesting beast. I know from talking to INVISION that we are one of the oldest communities on the platform. There have been so many updates, revisions, total redesigns, features that have come and gone, plugins that are no longer supported, etc, that very few communities are as cumbersome as this 23-year-old. So there are all sorts of weird cases like this where it was probably possible to receive a bunch of messages before there was even a limit. And the limit has probably changed a zillion times. It looks like in this case he was impacted by a limit change at some point, who knows when, and then was suddenly at 300% of capacity. Thanks for the kind words and for putting that band-aid on the issue. Some people don't know older members and what contribution have they done to the sports and this amazing board. I really appreciate the support and the effort to keep things running smoothly, especially given how much the platform has evolved over the years. It’s been a long journey since 2005, and I’m grateful to be part of such a dedicated and resilient community. Thanks again for your help (and Bill Piche) and for everything you do to keep the GripBoard going strong. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 You should separate tilted lift and non tilted, for obvious reasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 On 8/30/2024 at 9:05 AM, Alawadhi said: Hi @Grepm.m, I noticed your introduction here and couldn’t help but be impressed by your strength. Could you remind me of your name? I also saw your interest in maintaining a list of those who have cleaned the Inch dumbbell, which is a commendable effort. However, I believe that any lift listed should be a genuine Millennium dumbbell lift, not a substitute like the 104 kg Holle dumbbell. After all, they are different dumbbells with different specs. While many strong individuals on this list likely have the potential to lift the Millennium, the list should remain accurate and only include those who have definitively done so. Additionally, I'd like to suggest reviewing older posts on the GripBoard, particularly those pre-2005, where the phrase 'word is bond' was discussed, as it underscores the importance of verifiable achievements. Definitive proof is necessary. While we respect strong individuals who claim they have lifted it, and I personally value their word, when it comes to maintaining a list, their word alone isn’t enough (Word isn't bond). If the list should include any honorary mentions, it would be valuable to clarify whether the lift was strict or tilted. This approach would enhance the list's credibility. Yes, there are indeed a few individuals who have lifted the Millennium in my gym. However, I believe that anyone included on the list should have verifiable proof of their lift. My word alone isn't enough for a list (no one's word is, believing is something and a public list is another). While I know several strong lifters who have achieved this feat but prefer to avoid the camera, they should not be included without evidence. I also know others who are very strong and highly likely to succeed, but they have yet to attempt it. It's important to maintain the list’s integrity by only including confirmed lifts. To me and others I'm sure, you are a credible witness. That is more than enough proof. However if you feel that there should be more proof that does speak volume. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Cuk Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 On 8/30/2024 at 1:53 AM, Grepm.m said: Hi, I’ve tried to put together a list of all the people who’ve lifted the Millenium dumbbell off the floor. The list is in no particular order. Please comment if you know of someone else who’ve done it, or if you disagree with a mention. Millennium dumbbell Odd Haugen (https://youtu.be/JFUGA2-5vqs?si=z1mw5_nMFsC7PSjW) Laine Snook (https://youtu.be/IVug9V8KE88?si=WSwNFZVFtujmAOsK) Khaled (https://youtu.be/EzLm8SBoKe0?si=wqG9XOISV_pV_z70) Brian Shaw (https://youtu.be/Qguqcyzi-WI?si=8PAs-9TlJ9vtC3A6) Carl Myerscough (https://youtu.be/u9RirrLe1OY?si=wu-ZIksmJHLQK2Zz) Joeseph Hodgson (https://youtube.com/shorts/uynqPoj3Ojs?si=VkRI073vgYMD_CCo) Nathan Holle Steve Gardener (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR8QVSOLMuQ Tanner Merkle (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca7rdjtLDI7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) Ron Mazza (https://youtu.be/7of-j6cBV4M?si=oLq-y1MFUtL4LR1H) Lecho Vasilis (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8Uc7oJIezG/?igsh=MTJtbThkMzJ1aWZvZQ==) Ben Helms (https://youtube.com/shorts/rCvLHZF7Zuc?si=pCgykGcFayVi_h_w) Honourable mention: Mark Felix, he didn’t lock it out, but it looks like it’s hovering. My guess is that he didn’t want to risk dropping it on the concrete floor. (https://youtu.be/w5NYcFj0dvk?si=JsB2IXjDxN1jcJqJ Anyone else? For Odd this video is better to use 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepm.m Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Ivan Cuk said: For Odd this video is better to use Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burkhardmacht Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Joel Sword was one of the very early guys to do something with the MDB back in 2002/2003 I believe. There was a video in the old cyberpump gallery of him lifting the MDB level a few inches. I still have this video I guess... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 23 hours ago, Londonjoseph said: To me and others I'm sure, you are a credible witness. That is more than enough proof. However if you feel that there should be more proof that does speak volume. Thank you for your kind words buddy! I always strive to ensure things are clear and well-documented. Personally, if you or another trusted individual said that someone lifted the Inch, I would take it at face value because your word holds a lot of weight with me. However, when it comes to something as significant as a record or list, I believe concrete proof is necessary to maintain its credibility. I certainly trust strong individuals who have accomplished strong feats, are in good standing, or those closely connected to them, including Kim Wood. But his well-known pre-2005 saying, 'word is bond,' led to a number of unverifiable claims. Perhaps he witnessed something, then heard about other feats or told he witnessed something else, and believed them without further proof. We can never be sure. That's why, for a list to be truly deserving of trust, solid evidence is always essential. 7 hours ago, burkhardmacht said: Joel Sword was one of the very early guys to do something with the MDB back in 2002/2003 I believe. There was a video in the old cyberpump gallery of him lifting the MDB level a few inches. I still have this video I guess... That's correct. Joel Sword lifted the Millennium Dumbbell to around knee height, and it was done with strict form. I also have the video, which you can find attached below. Additionally, there’s more information in this longer video, including a picture of Mark Henry lifting the Millennium Dumbbell to knee height, which was witnessed by Steve Gardener @mobsterone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 23 hours ago, Ivan Cuk said: For Odd this video is better to use Few asked me about the ownership of the Millennium Dumbbell that Odd Haugen lifted (I answered it here too). To answer this, it's important to understand the history of that bell. I briefly touched on the Millennium Dumbbell's history in one of my YouTube videos, but here’s a more detailed explanation. The original Inch Dumbbell was sold to Kim Wood (the Bengals' strength coach) and his son John Wood, by Dave Prowse in 2000. The British community sought another challenge bell for their version of the AOBS dinner, known as the OHF. To meet this demand, Steve Gardener and Alan Radley, PhD, co-founded the Millennium Dumbbell. The foundry that produced the dumbbell was located in Belvedere, London, England. A mold for the Millennium Dumbbell was created, and seven bells were made before the mold was destroyed. These seven bells were produced in two batches. The first batch consisted of four bells. #1 was originally owned by Alan Radley and is now with Carl Mayerscough. #2 was owned by Steve Gardener and is now in my possession. #3 was sold to Ergul Salih, and #4 was owned by Wag Bennett. After his passing, his wife, Dianne Bennett, kept the bell safely with their initials engraved on it. The second batch, produced in 2002, consisted of bells #5, 6, and 7, all of which were sold to Kim Wood. He later sold the 7th bell to strength historian Joe Roark in 2003. In 2004, Joe sold it to Joel Sward, who later sold it to Shane Larson in late 2004 or early 2005. In June 2006, Shane sold the bell to Kevin Bussi, which is when Odd Haugen lifted the Millennium Dumbbell. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 More detail is in David Horne's Gripopedia. I also have 1 of four books specially printed and published with David's permission on the Inch dumbbells etc by Dr Tom Balchin (from a chapter of David's book) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 I really hope Lecho Vasilis can visit @Alawadhi in Dubai. He is the only person on that list without a credible witness, and seems to have one of the cleanest lifts. I am not saying the man is a fraud, I just want more confirmation, because if he can level lift a millennium that strict-and at that bodyweight- to me he would be the most impressive on that list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepm.m Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 19 hours ago, Alawadhi said: Few asked me about the ownership of the Millennium Dumbbell that Odd Haugen lifted (I answered it here too). To answer this, it's important to understand the history of that bell. I briefly touched on the Millennium Dumbbell's history in one of my YouTube videos, but here’s a more detailed explanation. The original Inch Dumbbell was sold to Kim Wood (the Bengals' strength coach) and his son John Wood, by Dave Prowse in 2000. The British community sought another challenge bell for their version of the AOBS dinner, known as the OHF. To meet this demand, Steve Gardener and Alan Radley, PhD, co-founded the Millennium Dumbbell. The foundry that produced the dumbbell was located in Belvedere, London, England. A mold for the Millennium Dumbbell was created, and seven bells were made before the mold was destroyed. These seven bells were produced in two batches. The first batch consisted of four bells. #1 was originally owned by Alan Radley and is now with Carl Mayerscough. #2 was owned by Steve Gardener and is now in my possession. #3 was sold to Ergul Salih, and #4 was owned by Wag Bennett. After his passing, his wife, Dianne Bennett, kept the bell safely with their initials engraved on it. The second batch, produced in 2002, consisted of bells #5, 6, and 7, all of which were sold to Kim Wood. He later sold the 7th bell to strength historian Joe Roark in 2003. In 2004, Joe sold it to Joel Sward, who later sold it to Shane Larson in late 2004 or early 2005. In June 2006, Shane sold the bell to Kevin Bussi, which is when Odd Haugen lifted the Millennium Dumbbell. Thank you for the interesting write up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 10 hours ago, Londonjoseph said: I really hope Lecho Vasilis can visit @Alawadhi in Dubai. He is the only person on that list without a credible witness, and seems to have one of the cleanest lifts. I am not saying the man is a fraud, I just want more confirmation, because if he can level lift a millennium that strict-and at that bodyweight- to me he would be the most impressive on that list. I already invited him, and he had accepted. However, the visit didn't take place as it seems this was his first time traveling outside his village. He mistakenly assumed that he could travel with just his Greek national ID and wasn't aware that a passport was required. He has now decided to apply for a passport, but unfortunately the process may take several weeks according to him, as is the case in some countries. I confirmed this with a Greek friend, who verified that it’s true. It's a bit surprising, given that in Dubai (The UAE), passports are issued the same hour you apply. Nonetheless, the invitation remains open, he is eager to visit, and other people vouch for him. Hopefully, he'll be able to lift the Millennium Dumbbell. We’ll have to wait and see. 1 hour ago, Grepm.m said: Thank you for the interesting write up! My pleasure! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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