Top 5 Events

[Dbramb]

If you were to design your dream grip event that truly captured what it means to have a solid all-around grip with bodyweight kept in mind, what would you include?

Please feel free to be sincere and creative! I'm looking forward to hearing what you all think..

Best wishes in your training journey, Dbramb

[Kluv#0]

 Grippers 30 MM Block, 2 3/8" Axle, 2"x 5" Saxon Bar, LBH, Medley - with heavy emphasis on Sledgehammers feats in all directions, Kettlebell Wrist centric feats, Blobs, Plate Pinch, Inch DB and some cocktail party lifts such as Keypinch, Plate Hub, etc.

[Fist of Fury]

From start to finish.

1. Grippers 20 mm block set left and right hand, score combined.

2. Shallow hub pinch left and right hand, score combined.

3. 2-Hand Euro pinch.

4. 60 mm thick bar lift for max or a medley.

5. Block weight medley.

[Climber028]

Tips tester 

Finish ball

1" V-bar

Pipka

Logan lift

[climber511]

Mine would no doubt look like most of the Gripmas Carols I promoted.  

1. Grippers - 20mm block - choice of hands - I wouldn't let my bias against Grippers keep them out of a contest again.  I did in the past let my dislike for them keep them from some of the contests I promoted.

2. Euro Pinch - 2 hands - at least 3 widths - I know it takes forever this way but it ensures everyone's best performance.

3.  IM Axle Double Overhand Dead Lift - this was always the "Big 3" and I think it showed a fair mastery of the basics.  This favors the big guys but I feel it's necessary.  We do have Weight Classes.

4.  Sledge Lever or Weaver Stick etc.  Some kind of Wrist Strength event - takes a special setup but I really like the Sledge event and other than perhaps Reverse Bending offers one of the best  Wrist Tests.

5.  Monster Medley - Around 20 items covering "everything".  The only time I'd ever include those tiny implement lifts.

Ideally a bending event maybe held separately at the end/

Edited August 29 by climber511

[DoctorOfCrush]

33 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

Tips tester 

Finish ball

1" V-bar

Pipka

Logan lift

Ouch. 

[bencrush]

1) 1" Vbar (both hands) 

2) 2" Vbar (both hands) 

3) 20mm Grippers (both hands) 

4) Axle DO Deadlift

5) 1HP Flask

[Vinnie]

1)  Grippers - 20 mm close with either hand.  I think I would go with 20 mm because it has been most common historically and allows for good comparison among athletes, because it is probably pretty close to the parallel set most of us have become familiar with from Mash Monster certs and our training routines, and because it makes hand size a little less determinative than a wider set but still guarantees that you are testing the crush at the close pretty well.  Being a person who was never great at setting, I am not averse to 30 mm, because I think I lose less on that jump from 20 than some folks, but I think whether you pick 20 or 30 is not a huge difference, so long as it is something people can train and compare.  GHP block (38mm) and credit card set are also fine, even TNS, but I think for my IDEAL comp I am sticking with a narrower standard like 20 or 30, so I will settle on 20 for now.  I also like that with a narrow-ish grip, you make setting an important skill to train (this is not necessarily to my own advantage; I am not an expert setter.  I did markedly improve my closes when I heeded the advice of @Chez and made it a point to improve my setting, so I can attest that setting is an important gripper skill).  I enjoyed the one comp I went to where it was a TNS close, and on the opposite end of that spectrum, the one where we just did a Dyno--but they did not involve much skill.  So yeah, 20 mm grippers.

2)  Pinch - DOH 2x5 Saxon Bar to lockout.  I really like the Euro, ESPECIALLY since @climber511 waved the Euro Whisperer wand over me and granted me 20 pounds over my previous best, putting me close to weight class world record territory.  However, it seems odd to me that you can just choose the width you prefer, and then be compared to the folks who lifted with different widths.  I feel like we should all lift the same implement whatever the event is, and the issue should be to pick the best single width for this to be most fair all around.  If you allow people to choose the width they like best, why wouldn't you allow people to choose the block set they want for grippers?  The thickness for the thickbar?  The height of the crossbar?  These things all present different challenges to all of us based on our body sizes, hand sizes, etc., but how do we compare the lifts in ONE contest if we allow variation even within that contest?  This suggestion of not allowing variation is not one that favors me.  For example, I have been to more comps that contest 3x4 Saxon than 2x5.  I am MUCH better at 2x5, probably because I have average sized hands and 3x4 feels a bit too wide for me.  My max lift on 2x5 is 50 pounds more than 3x4!  Why can the lifter not choose the preferred width on this one?  I've never seen this done.  I think the 2x5 width is not so narrow as to handicap the bigger hands (they still have the dominant lifts on this), so I would probably go with that.  And I think I would choose the 2x5 Saxon over the Euro because it is a more accessible implement and easier to load.  The Euro DOES require more finesse, I think, and that worked to my advantage after Chris taught me some tricks, so I love the Euro more than ever, and might choose it but I think I will settle on 2x5 Saxon for this one.  There is also a 2.5-inch width Saxon that is less commonly seen but might provide an alternative if there is anyone who actually feels that 2x5 Saxon is unfairly narrow.  Still, I'm saying 2x5 here.

3)  Thickbar - DOH 2 3/8" Napalm's Nightmare.  I think I would prefer @Jedd Johnson's 2 3/8" 2H Napalm Nightmare over the more universal axle.  I know the axle is a staple and I think it also is a bit of a "gateway" into grip, because it is so similar to a regular deadlift but for the bar size making it more of a grip test than an oly bar.  But it does favor the big guys, because it is one of the few lifts where it is not uncommon for the weight to be too much, even when his grip would bear more.  One way to neutralize this prevalence of body strength over grip strength would be to use a thicker bar, but then you are moving the advantage from body size to hand size.  If you did this like Euro, where you allow people to vary the width to tailor to their own hands, then you should allow variation of thickness of the axle to tailor to hand size.  But of course for that, an Oly bar or even smaller would be better for EVERYONE's grip, just would still leave the smaller bodied guys last (again, not necessarily a problem, because of weight classes, but not clear if it is the best GRIP event).  Jedd's 2 3/8 NN requires more grip strength than a 2-inch, and less range of motion than an axle, allowing the body to lift more, so that it will be a very rare person who will max out on NN 2 3/8 bc his body can't lift as much as he can hold with his hands.  One way I know this:  My DOH axle max is the same as my DOH deadlift max and it doesn't matter how I hold the bar or what bar it is or even if I use straps--if you want me to move the weight from the floor, that's all my body can do.  But if you help me get the bar up, I can stand there for 10 seconds with 30-40 pounds more than I could have lifted.  All I gave you with my axle lift was a max deadlift.  Put me on the NN 2 3/8, and--even though the range of motion is less than an axle--now I can't do as much as my axle/oly deadlift max.  By increasing the thickness of the bar and decreasing the range of motion my body has to endure, now you are testing my grip, because my max is lower than what I could do with an easier grip.

4)  Vertical lift - Little Big Horn to lockout.  Yeah I said that.  I know lockout is not popular, since for little guys like me it is almost already at lockout when I start lol.  But having to pull it several inches past lockout to a crossbar turns it into a shrugging exercise for me.  I also hate the LBH itself, and have never figured it out.  However, it is widely used and trained, it does test a grip skill the first three events above do not, and I can't avoid it.  I wonder if anyone ever offered a "hybrid" height requirement for a lift, like "lockout or 6 inches"?  I mean, I have heard it is harder to judge lockout, but if someone can't reach 6 inches, just judge them hard on whether they locked out?  If they make the 6, great, then no need to decide on the lockout.  

5)  Medley.  Everything, with easy and hard mixed in:  sledge, wrist wrench, blobs, bells, novelties.  Lots of things, and a good enough amount of time, so that everyone gets at least a few and no one gets 'em all.

Edited August 30 by Vinnie

[climber511]

7 minutes ago, Vinnie said:

1)  Grippers - 20 mm close with either hand.  I think I would go with 20 mm because it has been most common historically and allows for good comparison among athletes, because it is probably pretty close to the parallel set most of us have become familiar with from Mash Monster certs and our training routines, and because it makes hand size a little less determinative than a wider set but still guarantees that you are testing the crush at the close pretty well.  Being a person who was never great at setting, I am not averse to 30 mm, because I think I lose less on that jump from 20 than some folks, but I think whether you pick 20 or 30 is not a huge difference, so long as it is something people can train and compare.  GHP block (38mm) and credit card set are also fine, even TNS, but I think for my IDEAL comp I am sticking with a narrower standard like 20 or 30, so I will settle on 20 for now.  I also like that with a narrow-ish grip, you make setting an important skill to train (this is not necessarily to my own advantage; I am not an expert setter.  I did markedly improve my closes when I heeded the advice of @Chez and made it a point to improve my setting, so I can attest that setting is an important gripper skill.  I enjoyed the one comp I went to where it was a TNS close, and on the oppposite end of that spectrum, the one where we just did a Dyno--but they did not involve much skill.  So yeah, 20 mm grippers.

2)  Pinch - DOH 2x5 Saxon Bar to lockout.  I really like the Euro, ESPECIALLY since @climber511 waved the Euro Whisperer wand over me at granted me 20 pounds over my previous best, putting me close to weight class world record territory.  However, it seems odd to me that you can just choose the width you prefer, and then be compared to the folks who lifted with different widths.  I feel like we should all lift the same implement whatever the event is, and the issue should be to pick the best single width for this to be most fair all around.  If you allow people to choose the width they like best, why wouldn't you allow people to choose the block set they want for grippers?  The thickness for the thickbar?  The height of the crossbar?  These things all present different challenges to all of us based on our body sizes, hand sizes, etc., but how do we compare the lifts in ONE contest if we allow variation even within that contest?  This suggestion of not allowing variation is not one that favors me.  For example, I have been to more comps that contest 3x4 Saxon than 2x5.  I am MUCH better at 2x5, probably because I have average sized hands and 3x4 feels a bit too wide for me.  My max lift on 2x5 is 50 pounds more than 3x4!  Why can the lifter not choose the preferred width on this one?  I've never seen this done.  I think the 2x5 width is not so narrow as to handicap the bigger hands (they still have the dominant lifts on this), so I would probably go with that.  And I think I would choose the 2x5 Saxon over the Euro because it is a more accessible implement and easier to load.  The Euro DOES require more finesse, I think, and that worked to my advantage after Chris taught me some tricks, so I love the Euro more than ever, and might choose it but I think I will settle on 2x5 Saxon for this one.  There is also a 2.5-inch width Saxon that is less commonly seen but might provide an alternative if there is anyone who actually feels that 2x5 Saxon is unfairly narrow.  Still, I'm saying 2x5 here.

3)  Thickbar - DOH 2 3/8" Napalm's Nightmare.  I think I would prefer @Jedd Johnson's 2 3/8" 2H Napalm Nightmare over the more universal axle.  I know the axle is a staple and I think it also is a bit of a "gateway" into grip, because it is so similar to a regular deadlift but for the bar size making it more of a grip test than an oly bar.  But it does favor the big guys, because it is one of the few lifts where it is not uncommon for the weight to be too much, even when his grip would bear more.  One way to neutralize this prevalence of body strength over grip strength would be to use a thicker bar, but then you are moving the advantage from body size to hand size.  If you did this like Euro, where you allow people to vary the width to tailor to their own hands, then you should allow variation of thickness of the axle to tailor to hand size.  But of course for that, an Oly bar or even smaller would be better for EVERYONE's grip, just would still leave the smaller bodied guys last (again, not necessarily a problem, because of weight classes, but not clear if it is the best GRIP event).  Jedd's 2 3/8 NN requires more grip strength than a 2-inch, and less range of motion than an axle, allowing the body to lift more, so that it will be a very rare person who will max out on NN 2 3/8 bc his body can't lift as much as he can hold with his hands.  One way I know this:  My DOH axle max is the same as my DOH deadlift max and it doesn't matter how I hold the bar or what bar it is or even if I use straps--if you want me to move the weight from the floor, that's all my body can do.  But if you help me get the bar up, I can stand there for 10 seconds with 30-40 pounds more than I could have lifted.  All I gave you with my axle lift was a max deadlift.  Put me on the NN 2 3/8, and--even though the range of motion is less than an axle--now I can't do as much as my axle/oly deadlift max.  By increasing the thickness of the bar and decreasing the range of motion my body has to endure, now you are testing my grip, because my max is lower than what I could do with an easier grip.

4)  Vertical lift - Little Big Horn to lockout.  Yeah I said that.  I know lockout is not popular, since for little guys like me it is almost already at lockout when I start lol.  But having to pull it several inches past lockout to a crossbar turns it into a shrugging exercise for me.  I also hate the LBH itself, and have never figured it out.  However, it is widely used and trained, it does test a grip skill the first three events above do not, and I can't avoid it.  I wonder if anyone ever offered a "hybrid" height requirement for a lift, like "lockout or 6 inches"?  I mean, I have heard it is harder to judge lockout, but if someone can't reach 6 inches, just judge them hard on whether they locked out?  If they make the 6, great, then no need to decide on the lockout.  

5)  Medley.  Everything, with easy and hard mixed in:  sledge, wrist wrench, blobs, bells, novelties.  Lots of things, and a good enough amount of time, so that everyone gets at least a few and no one gets 'em all.

Very well thought out answer.  I've always wondered why grippers couldn't be made that were already at the 20 - 30mm or CC width and no set would be required - probably something technical - sort of pre choked?

The lack of a designated wrist event bothers me a little though and always has from my beginnings in Grip Sport - someone needs to come up with a well thought out wrist test event that is safe.

The Little Big Horn is just a weird event "to me" and belongs more in a Medley than as a main event in my mind. 

The 2"x5" Saxon Bar is good if some kind of standard design, weight, and measurements could be used.  I like the Euro "because" it is adjustable - we've all argued the hand size advantage for decades and this is the only event which seems to even the field on hand size - most people will find a significant difference at the different widths.  If the chosen width fits you I feel that gives you an advantage over other people who favor something different.  

Lots of good ideas in this thread but an "ideal" contest should really test every aspect of grip.  The NN idea is a really good one - I've seen so many people fail to deadlift something their grip could handle - it often turns into a DL contest it seems - it often did for me - my Axle DL was almost the same as my regular bar DL - especially as I got older.  The 2" versus 2 3/8" size argument will no doubt go on forever just like hand size has - in the end pick one and lift I guess.  

[Eric Roussin]

@Vinnie I just want to make sure that you’re aware that you can stand on blocks, plates, etc. to meet the 6” range of motion requirement without it becoming a shrug.

@climber511 Have you had a chance to try the wrist wrench? While it only tests one aspect of wrist strength, I think it’s a great, safe event. It’s also now tracked in the GSI database.

[Jedd Johnson]

17 hours ago, Climber028 said:

Tips tester 

Finish ball

1" V-bar

Pipka

Logan lift

GTFOH!!! LOLOL

[Vinnie]

15 minutes ago, Eric Roussin said:

@Vinnie I just want to make sure that you’re aware that you can stand on blocks, plates, etc. to meet the 6” range of motion requirement without it becoming a shrug.

@climber511 Have you had a chance to try the wrist wrench? While it only tests one aspect of wrist strength, I think it’s a great, safe event. It’s also now tracked in the GSI database.

The blocks just create a deficit that makes it harder than off the floor, but yes, I have done that sometimes.

I agree that the wrist wrench is a good test of wrist strength, and safe.  Hate it, lol, but I have to admit that it would actually be a good one of the five.

[Vinnie]

Just now, Vinnie said:

The blocks just create a deficit that makes it harder than off the floor, but yes, I have done that sometimes.

I have also found that the available heights at different venues varies, and the item used (rectangular block, size of block's footprint, or plates) can change the strategy/dynamic in a way that becomes apparent only during your attempts, thus taking away from the ability to plan what to attempt.

This is not a major gripe, I still go to these comps and compete with cross-bars and I accept that not all events will be contested in the way most favorable to me achieving my own max lifts lol.  In part that is why I don't like the availability of different widths for Euro -- sure, if offered, I will try to pick what's best for me.  But then why can't I do the 2x5 Saxon instead of the 3x4 at an event, if I think that is better for me?  That's all I am saying.  I give my idea, and if I host a comp, I can use my idea.  If someone else does it differently and I go to their comp, I live with it.  It's fine.  I love it all.

[Vinnie]

42 minutes ago, climber511 said:

someone needs to come up with a well thought out wrist test event that is safe.

You had a nice wrist-roll-sled-drag event at one Gripmas, and you can also do a wrist-roll with a weight that gets pulled up as you roll (I think I like that a little better, perhaps because it is lifting the weight as opposed to dragging it against friction which requires more weight and less precision, but as far as the demand on the wrists I am not sure it makes much difference).  It was brutal for me and probably would be my worst event at any comp, but I can't deny it would be a good choice for a fifth event that focused on the wrist as opposed to the focus of the other events most mentioned (crush, pinch, thickbar, vertical).

Edited August 30 by Vinnie

[Eric Roussin]

7 minutes ago, Vinnie said:

I have also found that the available heights at different venues varies, and the item used (rectangular block, size of block's footprint, or plates) can change the strategy/dynamic in a way that becomes apparent only during your attempts, thus taking away from the ability to plan what to attempt.

This is not a major gripe, I still go to these comps and compete with cross-bars and I accept that not all events will be contested in the way most favorable to me achieving my own max lifts lol.  In part that is why I don't like the availability of different widths for Euro -- sure, if offered, I will try to pick what's best for me.  But then why can't I do the 2x5 Saxon instead of the 3x4 at an event, if I think that is better for me?  That's all I am saying.  I give my idea, and if I host a comp, I can use my idea.  If someone else does it differently and I go to their comp, I live with it.  It's fine.  I love it all.

Personally, I would much rather stand on blocks or plates if the alternative would be to shrug to get to the crossbar, no matter the deficit. 

[Vinnie]

Just now, Eric Roussin said:

Personally, I would much rather stand on blocks or plates if the alternative would be to shrug to get to the crossbar, no matter the deficit. 

Probably me, too, but I guess the uncertainty of how to train it versus what will be used at the comp makes it less predictable for me and introduces a complication for me when trying to plan my attempts.  I have often thrown up my hands at whether to stand on no plates, one, two, or a block, and have been at comps where I could not figure out the best configuration until on or after my last attempt.  Again, I accept that comps are not optimized for my personal situation, but for overall fairness.  Just saying that there are events when the crossbar is NOT optimal for SOME folks, and I am one of those some.  But if the question is my ideal comp, I might choose not to use it, despite quietly acquiescing at its use everywhere else lol.

[marko]

Event 1: Stirrup (max weight)

Event 2: Rolling Handle 2" (max weight)

Event 3: 2 handed Flask (Max Weight)

Event 4: Dead hang on a pull up bar (Max Time)

Event 5: Talk about Gripsport amongst new friends

[climber511]

I find the wrist wrench is not that much different than a Fat Bar Event - and sort of close to a rolling handle event - I have 1.9" and 2 3/8" Wrist Wrenches (home made) and Rolling handles and find them similar - perhaps harder on the thumb. Same but different?

The Wrist Roller events I did were fun - Jedd had a "drag" and Andrew had a "for height" - both were tough but I think I favor the for height if we ever hope to track it - on a drag you can stop for a rest and not lose it but on a for height you can never relax or down it comes.  Either would require some specialized equipment though I imagine for a comp.  More endurance than strength.

Wrists move in so many directions a good overall event will be tough to come up with.  I had Weaver Stick (front and rear) before and I'm not sure how safe that one is (even with a wrist wrap).  Wrist Curls would be impossible and certainly not safe as an event.  Wrist events are a problem to test for sure - but are such an integral aspect of grip. Sledge lever events also require special setups - and Coin Loads can be an issue as well - one of you smart guys needs to figure this one out LOL. 

It wouldn't work as an event but I still believe my Wrist Thingy is maybe the best training tool I know of.  I just saw a Brian Show video of it along with a pendulum type back and forth roller that is really cool (I made one kind of like it years ago that just used a rope roll up).

Now that we have (actual companies) making equipment versus so much stuff being turned out in my or others garages - things are a lot more professionally made and consistent in quality.  I remember making the first Napalms Nightmare out of pipe - PVC - big washers - bits and pieces of stuff - and all thread (off of Jedd's specs and request) - it worked pretty well but what Luke turns out is SO much nicer - and all the different handles are great.  

Grip just gets better and better - but much more complex also - I still like the basics the best.

[JasonD]

15 hours ago, Vinnie said:

I have also found that the available heights at different venues varies, and the item used (rectangular block, size of block's footprint, or plates) can change the strategy/dynamic in a way that becomes apparent only during your attempts, thus taking away from the ability to plan what to attempt.

This is not a major gripe, I still go to these comps and compete with cross-bars and I accept that not all events will be contested in the way most favorable to me achieving my own max lifts lol.  In part that is why I don't like the availability of different widths for Euro -- sure, if offered, I will try to pick what's best for me.  But then why can't I do the 2x5 Saxon instead of the 3x4 at an event, if I think that is better for me?  That's all I am saying.  I give my idea, and if I host a comp, I can use my idea.  If someone else does it differently and I go to their comp, I live with it.  It's fine.  I love it all.

Vin, I believe Adam Glass did this at one of his events. Choose your Saxon bar width. 2x5, 2.5x?, or 3x4. I like the idea.

[Vinnie]

6 hours ago, JasonD said:

Vin, I believe Adam Glass did this at one of his events. Choose your Saxon bar width. 2x5, 2.5x?, or 3x4. I like the idea.

Actually, you are right, I was at one in Texas in 2019 where he offered 2 x 5 and 3 x 4 (not sure about the third one).  But only the 3 x 4 went into arm lifting stats, and the contest was not GSI, so my stat never went anywhere and I forgot.  I liked that option, except for the lift not being a recorded one.

[Mikael S]

1. Grippers 20 mm block

2. Euro pinch two hands

3. IM Axle double overhand

4. Pronation

 

Euro included for obvious reasons as it negates hand size advantage. If you perform poorly in spite of lifting at your optimal width you are simply weak. 

Edited September 7 by Mikael S

[Dbramb]

Loving these ideas and am inspired by Adam Glass's latest podcast on 'The Grip Show' to share my dream comp to begin soon out of my garage in Melissa, Texas...

Events:

1. Axle/Fat Gripz Deadlift (Black/Blue/Orange)
2. Fat Gripz Deadhang (Black/Blue/Orange)
3. Rear Sledge Lever (10-12lbs)
4. Box-Top Kettlebell Levering (12-32kg)
5. Bumper Plate Pinch Grip Farmers Walk (25/35/45lbs Rogue Bumpers)

 

Axle/Fat Gripz Deadlift (MAX Weight/BW)

Example:

https://youtube.com/shorts/H_DqlPuVYgU?si=roSzICXeKQfs9z8v

 

Rules: Athletes have three attempts to lift a barbell to lockout (shoulders in line with hips & back perpendicular to floor), hold 1+sec and return the weight to the ground with both hands remaining on the bar. The weights will gradually increase in as little as 5lbs increments and won't decrease after the event has started. Missed lockouts and dropped weights will disqualify your lift.

 

Fat Gripz Deadhang (MAX Time)

Example:

https://youtube.com/shorts/MufFw9fLtmk?si=7jGnagBUdGNuSzxt

 

Rules: Using the same size Fat Gripz from your deadlift attempts, each athlete will attempt to hang from a pull-up bar for maximum time. Time begins when feet leave the floor and stops as soon as either foot touches the floor.

 

Rear Sledge Lever (MAX Distance Between Hammer & Hands)

Example:

https://youtube.com/shorts/iPG-5sd5RFs?si=MPjl6Mp_9apgvRjr

 

Rules: Athletes will start each lift holding the sledgehammer upside down with the arm at a 90° angle and the top of the palm under your premeasured line (distance to bottom of the hammer in centimeters). Then, you must lower the arm to full lockout (no arm bend) with your hand at your side before attempting to lever the sledgehammer above parallel to the floor behind you without moving your hand from your side or the front of your shoulder over your toes. Lower the hammer with control to the ground upon getting the command from your judge.

 

Box-Top Kettlebell Levering (1min MAX Weight for Reps)

Example:

https://youtu.be/yrQUu3cXnW4?si=3wNikARmIboRIYDa

 

Rules: Without moving your elbow from the top of the box, flip the kettlebell back and forth by levering the handle for as many reps as possible within 60sec. Unlimited hand switches and breaks are allowed.

 

Bumper Plate Pinch Grip Farmers Walk (MAX Weight for Distance)

Example:

https://youtu.be/DZvBQAUlJQo?si=r3u8EoxMBOv7LlfA

 

Rules: Pinch the top of bumpers, lift them up simultaneously and walk for maximum distance until you drop either or both plates. The event begins when both bumpers clear the ground.

 

Not too sure how to score it yet.

Edited September 13 by Dbramb

[richcottrell]

On 8/30/2024 at 11:01 AM, climber511 said:

It wouldn't work as an event but I still believe my Wrist Thingy is maybe the best training tool I know of.  I just saw a Brian Show video of it along with a pendulum type back and forth roller that is really cool (I made one kind of like it years ago that just used a rope roll up).

Chris,
is this the Brian Shaw one your talking about?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/381268438140293

because if it is, I want to mention the wrist roller that is sold by rogue fitness.... 
Years ago I bought one of their "rack mountable versions"
https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-wrist-roller

there is something that makes this wrist roller different; and closer in "action" to what Brian Shaw has in that video -- minus the wrist thingy.

The Rogue Wrist Roller is one heavy piece of equipment; but I was able to add it to an order a lifetime ago for minimal change on the shipping because i was getting something else that was big/heavy at the time. 

I do not think I paid the $125 they charge now for this Rack Mounted version; but if i did, please do not tell my wife.

Anyway few years later, I decided I was not really using as much as I thought I would.

I had my half rack in my basement gym - which was growing at the time -- but that space was also my office and workshop area, storage for my TV equipment, and were we also had our second refrigerator. 
 if I left it on the rack where I like using it, it blocked my super small access point for our crawl space.. so maybe 6 or 7 years ago i attempted to sell it on the gripboard and a funny thing happened...

A "well respected" grip person from this community said he wanted it.  I warned him it would be expensive to ship, but he told me he did not care.   

I insisted to first get him an actual USPostal price first.  So after I found a proper box to keep it safe and drove to the post office.
for him, the standard shipping (with no insurance) was going to cost $36.09; while priority mail was $41.

He said he would take that rogue wrist roller regardless of that shipping price, and he thanked me for checking first, but then a funny thing happened the very next day.

He pulled out of the transaction.  

here is what he told me:

"I am sending this to tell you I am no longer interested in the wrist roller. And I will tell you why. It is the way the strap is attached on the outside of the roller using a pin. This setup  causes the strap to have a halting movement or like it is going "Going over a hump" . It does not roll smoothly to my liking. I had one kind of like it from PDA. Same strap attached to the outside with a pin. I hated the roller and gave it away."

At the time I was real angry about this whole interaction.  While he might be a super active member, he is now on the bottom of my list...
while This Guy put a real stink on me selling on the grip board, he was correct that this design does create a "hump" as he pointed out.
 
but when I saw that Brian Shaw wrist roller with that pendulum, I realized there is something that the Rogue Roller does different.  That hump makes it a different tool to a certain degree.  and instead of a defect, you can use it to actually add something to your wrist roller training..


If you still have your traditional wrist roller that used the pins from your squat rack, I would think it would be easy enough to take a wooden dowel about 6 inches long and just tape it to the center area.  You would still grip the roller the same way, but now you would have that hump, which creates some of that pendulum tork [for lack of a better word].

I would think the tape would only need to hold the dowel (or short pipe) in place becasue once you have the strap or cord wound around both, that dowel should be held even tighter to the roller.

does that make any sense?





 

 

[climber511]

Makes perfect sense.  I made a combination Wrist Roller - Wrist Thingy a long time ago but setting it up in the rack was such a pain I never used it.  I have a 2 3/8" wrist roller only that I made with no hump - it slides over a rack pin like the Rogue but has a cable attached on a side plate and is pretty smooth - haven't used it in a long time either LOL - ought to sell it along with a bunch of stuff in the gym now that I'm no longer promoting (I'm putting a ton of stuff up for sale shortly - no one needs as many plates as I have).  The pendulum is a neat trick and I'm just sorry I never thought of it.  Rogue makes some cool stuff - I think Steve Slater helps design stuff but I'm not sure of that.  Your idea of a "dowel" is good - try it and let me know what you think.

Edited September 14 by climber511

[richcottrell]

26 minutes ago, climber511 said:

Makes perfect sense.  I made a combination Wrist Roller - Wrist Thingy a long time ago but setting it up in the rack was such a pain I never used it.  I have a 2 3/8" wrist roller only that I made with no hump - it slides over a rack pin like the Rogue but has a cable attached on a side plate and is pretty smooth - haven't used it in a long time either LOL - ought to sell it along with a bunch of stuff in the gym now that I'm no longer promoting (I'm putting a ton of stuff up for sale shortly - no one needs as many plates as I have).  The pendulum is a neat trick and I'm just sorry I never thought of it.  Rogue makes some cool stuff - I think Steve Slater helps design stuff but I'm not sure of that.  Your idea of a "dowel" is good - try it and let me know what you think.

Chris,
I apologize, but am not able to try this idea of The Dowel because I do not have a "normal" wrist roller. 

rich