pancho_grip_lift Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Hello guys! Randall accepted to be interviewed by me, so I'd like to know if there's anything that the gripboard community would like me to ask him. You can comment this post, send me a DM, here or at gripsport.latino on Instagram. The interview will happen on Wednesday this week and I hope to upload it on Friday-Saturday! 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 My question is regarding the IM Red / Gold Nail certification; Considering the new rules for certifying with the Red / Gold nail, and the three new ways of applying the wraps, why is the "standard" double overhand bending method (with the wraps on the end of the nail) no longer one of the options? Extra question: As for the safety concerns, loose wraps and having no rubber bands allowed can result in a higher risk of injury, and is therefore more dangerous for the person performing the bend - If normal rubber bands are not an option, would it be possible to have IM approved or maybe IM manufactured rubber bands made specifically to be an option to use for a bending certification? I have nothing more to ask as for this moment, so thank you @pancho_grip_lift and Mr. Strossen for doing this interview! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 The story of collaboration with Warren Tetting is interesting. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeferin Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I would like to know when the sharp knurling that was before will appear on COC again!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluv#0 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I would ask Randall if Ironmind has any plans for producing a 2 3/8" Axle. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 26 minutes ago, Zeferin said: I would like to know when the sharp knurling that was before will appear on COC again!!! They have very good knurling right now if you have not bought one recently. Sharpest I have seen in a decade at most levels. Also, remember that knurling sharpness is a preference. Not everyone views sharp as better. They’re selling enough grippers that they have to strike a balance for what everyone wants. Tough needle to thread. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinchByPinch Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 What does Randall think of the RGC ratings; would IronMind ever rate their grippers in this way in-house? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Ask why the short IM loading pin is not allowed for CTD 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martincerven Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Ask about that guy who certified on #3.5 but was then removed, I'd like to see more details of that drama. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) Edited July 4 by C8Myotome 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Interesting interview, 2 of my questions were answered so I would like to respond to those: 1) Regarding my question about Randall's view on Tiziano and his comment "it takes one to know one", I am sure he is not aware of the history I had with Tiziano. As I've already said other times, Tiziano had been blowing up my inbox well before most people knew who he was. I later learned he was also doing this to Ivan Cuk, and probably other elite gripper closers I am unaware of. At least me and Ivan from discussion came to the conclusion he likely had 2 reasons for doing this, firstly being to learn enough about grippers from people legitimately training them to build his story and gain knowledge to later use to defend himself when questioned, and secondly to attempt to establish friendships from people known for high level gripper closes who he hoped would likely back him up socially later on, if he were to ever get questioned. I don't think most people at least on here ever knew who Tiziano was until he started faking official certifications, so most people did not have Tiziano in their inbox spamming them with training videos and trying to establish small talk literally ever single day, including leaving voice messages from when he was driving his truck. Therefore, most people did not have that amount of information from Tiziano to watch that transition period where he actually at one point looked like a legitimate gripster, struggling to close a GHP7 then going back to training. Similarly, most people were not at or near the same training level with grippers at that same period of time their inbox was being blown up by Tiziano, while also making steady progress, to directly first-hand see how realistically out of proportion Tiziano's apparent "progress" was. Yes, I was very vocal about Tiziano, however it was not for no reason. I don't like being lied to, and Tiziano attempted to establish a friendship with me and many others completely based around lies. This was more than just lying about athletic achievements, this was more on a personal level with me because despite leading a very busy lifestyle, I had been attempting to take time out of my schedule to respond to his high volume amount of messages and show him some attention, and share training tips, meanwhile he was duping me the entire time and I realized this very early on once I started seeing his ridiculous progress claims combined with the whole being a 140 lb vegetarian thing, I began ignoring it and staying silent about it very early on and just focusing on my own training. This is why I was very direct about calling him out, because I had had so much more interaction with him from very early on than people who were just hearing about him when he started claiming big level certifications all within mere months of each other. 2) I understand that the reason for requiring the 15" pin for CTD is for standardization as this just overall makes it easier for the manufacturer/supplier, as on that side it's just about supplying/judging equipment, it's less things to judge or consider than to allow 2 loading pin heights. My perspective has always been that by standardizing equipment dimensions, it makes the entire lifting apparatus now unstandardized when you take into account different body heights. I've said this many times but to sum it up, a tall person like Emmanuel from Greece can perform it like a true deadlift with as much knee flexion in the world as he wants, and he will never have incidential leg contact. Proportionally as body height goes down, the lift is required to turn less and less into a deadlift, and more and more into a stiff-legged deadlift, increasing the level of hamstring recruitment and decreasing the level of quadriceps recruitment. Given this is still lifting 200 lbs with 1 hand, adding the requirement to turn it into a unilateral stiff-legged deadlift whereas tall people are just performing a normal unilateral deadlift, raises the difficulty unnecessarily for those of shorter height. Given this is a grip implement, I am not a fan of how much the body mechanics change when body height changes. Yes Yves is shorter than me and did more of a stiff-legged deadlift with very little knee flexion to avoid leg contact and that's great for him. I don't like that if I bend my knees, the leg contact that Ironmind originally told me was incidental then a year later told me was not incidental is considered a red flag. This was why very early on I asked if I could just use a short loading pin to avoid this, as I had been having handles of the giant handle clearing the legs, and was denied this request. Amateur gripsters (aka not Ironmind affiliated) have told me to just stand on blocks to go around this hurdle. I do not have lifting blocks to stand on. I have some squares of cut up horse stall mats but I would maybe gain just a few inches height from this. However as Randall stated, he views CTD as more of an average everyday layperson's introduction to a grip strength cert, and less specialist than a CoC 3 cert, for that reason I am not really interested in jumping through hurdles any time soon to make CTD happen again at least for me, I think the rules could be improved so that the body mechanics do not differ based on height, nor do I need to buy/make lifting blocks to stand on to create those similar body mechanics so I can actually use my quads without being accused of cheating, just like all the taller guys are using their quads. I would also like to offer that if anyone is interested in seeing the original emails where Ironmind told me exactly what changes I needed to make to my form to pass their standards, I will provide them. Never was I attempting to rely on "wiggle room" to pass. I had done what Ironmind at the time told me to do, and was denied being able to use a shorter loading pin, and I do not have blocks to stand on (for the record, Ironmind never mentioned blocks to me, only gripboard did). So it is what it is. Many people still like to accuse me of intentionally cheating at this as if I chose to use a relatively oversized height implemenet, and you're entitled to your opinion. At least until I complete the 3.5 cert which I am not far from, I am not interested in retrying CTD at least until then if I even do, when I have no other goals directly in sight to work towards. I respect that Ironmind has the right to choose what rules they would like to use. My focus has always been grippers, and had I known the issues the CTD challenge would bring, I would not have devoted the training time I did with it, and would have kept focus on grippers instead. I had been doing timed holds with a metronome at one point, if anyone remembers those videos. I will continue to focus on grippers, armlifting in general I am not as interested in as grippers, and if there's anyone doubting what I can do with grippers, mail me any brand new #3, mark the package however you'd like, and I'll CCS close it as part of my warmups (I like free grippers). Additionally I am still trying to set up a GSI meet to go for a gripper/bodyweight world record, but I may wait until after 3.5 cert so as to not disrupt my training for it. Or if you're local to me I can always arrange doing it in person as well. As far as I know no one's ever had an issue with what I do with grippers, but I just wanted to throw that out there. The flack people gave me over CTD is the main reason I do not share training tips publicly anymore, as I'm not interested in helping out the same people that flamed me on here, for doing what Ironmind had told me to do at the time regarding CTD form. Additionally, way back in my first year of training, as many people know, I had been cursed out by Jedd for the same thing in just training videos, rather than gotten any actual constructive criticism for what I should be doing differently. Enjoyed this podcast, just wanted to reflect on Randall's response to my 2 questions. Thanks for filming it! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, C8Myotome said: I had been cursed out by Jedd for the same thing in just training videos, rather than gotten any actual constructive criticism for what I should be doing differently. As far as I'm concerned, we cleared this up on the phone. I'm not sure why you would even bring this up without clarifying further???? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, Jedd Johnson said: As far as I'm concerned, we cleared this up on the phone. I'm not sure why you would even bring this up without clarifying further???? It's something that happened, it's still part of the bigger picture, and not something to omit just because it was settled at a later point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, C8Myotome said: It's something that happened, it's still part of the bigger picture, and not something to omit just because it was settled at a later point OK, in that case, I'll restate that I offered constructive criticism at first. You then got all defensive and acted like a child, so I responded in kind. Just so everyone knows I didn't just jump your case, out of nowhere, and that there's more to the story than the one-sentence summary you offered. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 They need to make a character limit for these posts 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 10 minutes ago, Jedd Johnson said: OK, in that case, I'll restate that I offered constructive criticism at first. You then got all defensive and acted like a child, so I responded in kind. Just so everyone knows I didn't just jump your case, out of nowhere, and that there's more to the story than the one-sentence summary you offered. Child? I had specifically stated where the handle was catching my leg and you got offended and worked up and began cursing at me over the use of an anatomical term, and demanded that I speak more vaguely to you in gym bro terms. You about 2 years later offered advice which didn't work. I bought your crushed to dust DVD also, and your advice of dragging the handle up the leg got at least one of my attempts rejected. The video you made of adjusting foot position didn't work either, you are a lot taller than me but used a 15" pin for the video, to really simulate the same dimensions you would need to add carabiners to your pin to account for the height difference. If you're 6 inches taller, add 6 inches of carabiners etc so the handle is as proportionally high for you as it is for me. Otherwise any advice about leg position is irrelevant. You can call me a child as much as you want however I was always the one responding with actual objective information, trying to figure out the form for an oversized equipment lift while complying with rules, while you resorted to name calling, cursing, and making fun of my singlet because I would superset powerlifting with grip training. Yet you want people to take you seriously when you are the one acting infantile. So your crush to dust DVD is a waste of money pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 50 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: It's something that happened, it's still part of the bigger picture, and not something to omit just because it was settled at a later point If it’s not something to omit, then why omit the follow-up where it was ‘settled?’ 46 minutes ago, Jedd Johnson said: You then got all defensive and acted like a child, so I responded in kind. This passes the smell test in my experience. The defensive part at least. 31 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: I had specifically stated where the handle was catching my leg and you got offended and worked up and began cursing at me over the use of an anatomical term, and demanded that I speak more vaguely to you in gym bro terms. This sequence of events, however, does not. 34 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: So your crush to dust DVD is a waste of money pretty much. Sweeping statement for an N=1. 34 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: making fun of my singlet This made me laugh. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 46 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: If you're 6 inches taller, add 6 inches of carabiners etc so the handle is as proportionally high for you as it is for me. Otherwise any advice about leg position is irrelevant. Jedd cannot make a DVD for every inch difference in height. It's the viewer's job to make do with what they've got. If you're six inches shorter, get a platform that's six inches in height and use that with Jedd's videos. Problem solved. 46 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: So your crush to dust DVD is a waste of money pretty much. Again, not Jedd's problem. If you only have one hand, it probably isn't a good idea to buy a DVD on how to clap if you don't have a prosthetic hand or something equivalent to properly perform the instructions with. Edited July 4 by Glitch Changed "unless" to "if you don't". 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Glitch said: If you only have one hand, it probably isn't a good idea to buy a DVD on how to clap 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DoctorOfCrush said: If it’s not something to omit, then why omit the follow-up where it was ‘settled?’ This passes the smell test in my experience. The defensive part at least. This sequence of events, however, does not. Sweeping statement for an N=1. This made me laugh. I didn't think to even add it, Jedd considers it settled however never apologized for anything, I chalked it up to him having a bad day and taking out an outburst at me that I otherwise did nothing to deserve, and decided to not make a big deal of it. I would consider Jedd maybe an acquaintance at best, I don't know him outside the internet and 2 phone calls. He is not someone I otherwise talk to, or would be interested in hanging out with. Powerlifting is a strength sport, grip is a strength sport, if you guys have a problem with a singlet that's more of your problem than mine It's also very funny you having a go at me when you barely close like 140 rgc? And had no idea who i was until very recently, much less years ago, but I'm glad you feel like you're accomplishing something You were not present to observe the timelines of events so I'm not sure why you think you have insight on all of it Edited July 4 by C8Myotome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 8 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: It's also very funny you having a go at me when you barely close like 140 rgc? And had no idea who i was until very recently, much less years ago, but I'm glad you feel like you're accomplishing something What does closing strength have anything to do with this? You've managed to turn this thread about an interview with the owner of Ironmind to be all about you. Congratulations. You say you don't care about the CTD cert and armlifting. Yet you've written a whole book about it in this thread. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOfCrush Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, C8Myotome said: It's also very funny you having a go at me when you barely close like 140 rgc? And had no idea who i was until very recently, much less years ago, but I'm glad you feel like you're accomplishing something Not really ‘having a go,’ just pointing out some consistencies and inconsistencies from my point of view. What is funny is I was this close to predicting that your response would include my grip strength to some degree. I actually thought it would include my other strength numbers too. I’ve observed this pattern. I’m not even close to elite in any aspect of this stuff. I’ve never claimed to be. I’m an intermediate hobbyist at best, but I’ve said it multiple times: my strength levels don’t affect my ability to assess facts presented, logical fallacies or inconsistencies therein, or my ability to express my opinion of those facts and inconsistencies. Just my .02. Edited July 4 by DoctorOfCrush 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DoctorOfCrush said: Not really ‘having a go,’ just pointing out some consistencies and inconsistencies from my point of view. What is funny is I was this close to predicting that your response would include my grip strength to some degree. I actually thought it would include my other strength numbers too. I’ve observed this pattern. I’m not even close to elite in any aspect of this stuff. I’ve never claimed to be. I’m an intermediate hobbyist at best, but I’ve said it multiple times: my strength levels don’t affect my ability to assess facts presented, logical fallacies or inconsistencies therein, or my ability to express my opinion of those facts and inconsistencies. Just my .02. Exactly. It doesn't matter if you close a #4 with only your pinky and thumb or a CoC Guide barely with two hands, facts are facts. C8myotome making fun of someone else's strength and using it as an argument is exactly what everyone would describe as "acting like a child". Edited July 4 by Glitch Added context 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I think Randall is technically correct on a rating of a gripper, but it literally drives the sales of grippers. just don’t go too hard down Playing it, Randy. Haha always interesting to listen to Randall thank you for the interview! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C8Myotome Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 16 minutes ago, Glitch said: Exactly. It doesn't matter if you close a #4 with only your pinky and thumb or a CoC Guide barely with two hands, facts are facts. C8myotome making fun of someone else's strength and using it as an argument is exactly what everyone would describe as "acting like a child". So then how is making fun of wearing specifically made for powerlifting clothes, while literally powerlifting, not a childish thing to make fun of? Is this not a strength website? Randall seemed to suggest a similarity between me and Tiziano and I will absolutely be very clear to reject that notion. Just because I know a lot about him, does not mean I am in any way similar to him, which I offered to prove. Jedd began this, @doctorofcrush seems to agree. Yet I'm stronger on grippers than either of them after only a few years training. Hmm. Interesting I posted my reflection to my questions that Randall answered, to clarify Randall's statement, and reply to his perspective on the CTD rules. That was all I posted for. Several others including yourself have decided to make this thread about me Definitely very hypocritical that everyone wants to find reasons to make fun of me in this thread and others, but the second I mention someone's subpar gripper performance, then everybody forgets everything else said and suddenly I'm the only person taking digs at people? Sounds logical Again, people like all of you are why I don't and will never again share training tips here. I'm taking many of my training secrets to the grave with me. But enjoy having no idea what you're doing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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