Compactorgrip Posted June 30 Posted June 30 I know its a rookie question but i want to know what numbers the veterans in here got before they easily hit that coc#3 with credit card close. I can currently close a 142 rgc rated Standard Iron without much setting but i want opionions if real seasoned veterans on gripsport to better give me an idea where im heading too 2 Quote
C8Myotome Posted June 30 Posted June 30 I didn't know about setting when I started and was doing 3 tns reps on a 127 2.5, almost did tns on a 3 then first time trying setting I did a CCS on a 147 average which was unrated and not broken in so maybe a little heavier at the time You didn't quantify how heavy of a 2 or what type of set...there is not "the coc 2", there are many variations of coc 2s dimension and difficulty wise You're already closing 142 which could be a light 3, but as a certified captain of crush I would recommend getting comfortable closing the heavier 3's and light cobalts if your goal is what I assume it probably is I don't remember ever really using a 2 to train with, maybe in my first few weeks or something, but they always felt way too easy for me so I've always considered them just a warmup. When I did my first rate and return, I only had 2.5 and heavier rated as that was what I actually used for training at the time It will also help to be objective with how hard of a 3 you're attempting for your first one...as whatever you're doing with 2 or 2.5 will be more or less relevant depending on the difficulty of the 3, which is really just stating the obvious 2 1 Quote 186 PB350 MMS, 183 CoC 3.5 MMS, 180 CoC 3.5 38 mm, 178 GHP8 30 mm, 175 GHP8 CCS
Compactorgrip Posted June 30 Author Posted June 30 Well i do have a really heavy 134 rgc 2.5 that i close for about 2 -3 reps , 138 rgc standard iron and that 142 standard iron which is my favorite gripper right now, but seems like the #3 certification is still far away although ive gotten fairly close to closing a 153 rgc #3 before Quote
Fist of Fury Posted June 30 Posted June 30 If you can do 5x5 with a certain gripper it's a good estimate that your 1RM will be 0.5 level higher than that gripper. Keep in mind that all grippers vary in their actual resistance. So a jump from a #2 and a #2.5 can be "0.73" or "0.38". So you never know exactly. If you're able to do 5x5 you can usually do 10 reps or more with the gripper. 3 1 Quote
Carl Myerscough Posted June 30 Posted June 30 Depends on your genetic fibre type distribution, but generally 7 reps give or take with the gripper 0.5 below will get you 1 rep with the next. So #2.5 for 7 ccs reps should equal 1 rep ccs with a #3. Seven with a #3 should get you one with the #3.5. It doesn't hold true once you get to the #4 because proportionately it's a bigger jump. So where a #3 might be 150 rgc and a #3.5 175 and #4 isn't going to be 200, rather 215+ so you need 9 or 10 reps with the #3.5 to equal one with the 4. However for people with a higher distribution of slow twitch fibres, they might need considerably more reps at all levels. You can easily find the numbers you need for yourself though. 8 5 Quote
Vinnie Posted June 30 Posted June 30 I am sure there is some variation from person to person, but when I started CCS closing 3's in the mid-140s, I was MMS closing grippers in the low 160s, and at my best (CCS closing 3s up to 153-ish dependably), I was closing 165-170 for 1 rep MMS. But when I hit 170-171 (personal best MMS), I was no longer training CCS and could not CCS my 152 even though I was at my MMS peak. I just wasn't training CCS anymore and lost a bit on that. 6 Quote
Compactorgrip Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 ill will absolutely take that estimate as general rule from now on. i seem to have some elbow issues with my extensors, so for now ill just focus on high reps. but im very thankful for that golden advice🙏🙏 Quote
Compactorgrip Posted July 1 Author Posted July 1 9 hours ago, Vinnie said: I am sure there is some variation from person to person, but when I started CCS closing 3's in the mid-140s, I was MMS closing grippers in the low 160s, and at my best (CCS closing 3s up to 153-ish dependably), I was closing 165-170 for 1 rep MMS. But when I hit 170-171 (personal best MMS), I was no longer training CCS and could not CCS my 152 even though I was at my MMS peak. I just wasn't training CCS anymore and lost a bit on that. credit card closing seems to take a bit of more endurance for that hold before the close imo 1 Quote
Fist of Fury Posted July 1 Posted July 1 8 hours ago, Compactorgrip said: credit card closing seems to take a bit of more endurance for that hold before the close imo It depends on what range you're working in. If you do a fairly heavy gripper that is 70% or more of your 1RM that may be true for CCS. However if you do lower percentages, like 60% and below and do really high reps it's the other way around, more narrow setting you do in each rep will make it harder because your hand will be under more tension for a longer time. When you do wide setting for that many reps you get more rest from heavy tension. Quote
Compactorgrip Posted July 2 Author Posted July 2 15 hours ago, Fist of Fury said: It depends on what range you're working in. If you do a fairly heavy gripper that is 70% or more of your 1RM that may be true for CCS. However if you do lower percentages, like 60% and below and do really high reps it's the other way around, more narrow setting you do in each rep will make it harder because your hand will be under more tension for a longer time. When you do wide setting for that many reps you get more rest from heavy tension. i might try that see how it feels Quote
Fist of Fury Posted July 2 Posted July 2 7 hours ago, Compactorgrip said: i might try that see how it feels You will find a gripper where it occurs. Providing that you have enough grippers. In my case when I trained both wide and narrow sets it was a #1. Which was around 50% or my max. Quote
JeffPeterson Posted September 16 Posted September 16 10 reps feels like a very safe number. Anytime I've chased the higher level gripper, I would do my work sets. Then after that, I would grab that gripper do an assisted close and hold shut as long as I could fighting it until it broke parallel. Quote
king crusher Posted September 16 Posted September 16 When I was chasing the 3 there was no 2.5 and there was no CCS. So I would find it fun to go for max reps of say 1/4” or so on my 2. I got extremely efficient at very high reps on the two. Might not be an ideal method but I enjoyed it. When I was getting 60+ reps on the 2 I was getting 8-10 similar reps on my 3. There was a time I was tns my unrated 3 which at that time I could do 5 pretty close to parallel reps on my 156 #3 and 1 rep on my 166 elite. 2 Quote
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