Dagars Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Being relatively new to the world of grip, and always up for a goal orientated challenge, I really fancied the "crushed to dust" . However, like a few others on the gripboard, I think the 90 kg rolling thunder will never be within my reach. It seems so disproportionate to the hub and grippers. I can close the 2 and lift the 20 but can only pull about 60 on the RT. I would like to see an entry level, a intermediate level and an advanced level. Ironmind would sell more gear and people could progress but at the same time have realistic targets to work towards.. I would set the levels somewhere around here: Entry level Hub - 20 kg, Gripper - CoC 2, RT = 60 kg Intermediate Hub - 25 kg, Gripper - CoC 2.5, RT = 75 kg Advanced Hub - 30 kg, Gripper - CoC 3, RT = 90 kg Were would other people set the boundaries? This whole thing is only a whim but but it might get more people motivated and interested in grip sport. Ps. you could also have a super advanced category for all you really strong folk out there 4 Quote
benjaminBoy Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah the 90kg RT is a hell of a gate keeper on the CTD challenge and they refuse to change it you might still find that thread on the IM forums. But I do like boundaries you set I'd make the fourth one Elite hub - 45 kg, Gripper - CoC 3.5, RT 105kg or 110kg Quote
Chez Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) A lot of us call the "crush to dust challenge" the "Rolling Thunder Certification" for this very reason. Its harder than the other 2 lifts by a lot. Edited December 2, 2015 by Chez 2 Quote "A lot of men train to be pretty, I train to be the strongest man in the world, then again I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson "You don't have to be fat to be strong!" - Svend Karlsen "I know it doesn't just come from playing with yourself" - Svend Karlsen talking to Magnus Samuelsson about closing the COC #4. "Everybody pulls for David, nobody roots for Goliath" - Wilt Chamberlain "No Roids. Just Rage!"
Fist of Fury Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah they might as well up the number to 100 kg and skip the other two Quote
John McCarter Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah the 90kg RT is a hell of a gate keeper on the CTD challenge and they refuse to change it you might still find that thread on the IM forums. But I do like boundaries you set I'd make the fourth one Elite hub - 45 kg, Gripper - CoC 3.5, RT 105kg or 110kg This would become known as the "hub certification", also, it would be a huge challenge for anyone to hit 45kg. 105kg on the RT wouldn't seem bad if it was at that strength but 110kg may be too far for most people to attempt. 1 Quote "You have to want it more than anything else in your whole life...you gotta want it that bad." - Slim "The Hammer Man" Farman
avasatu Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 I always found it strange when I heard grip guys bragging that PLers and BBers at big shows like the Olympia couldn't do CTD, when most people can't do 200 lb. on the RT even within the grip community until they are somewhat advanced, if at all. Quote
benjaminBoy Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah the 90kg RT is a hell of a gate keeper on the CTD challenge and they refuse to change it you might still find that thread on the IM forums. But I do like boundaries you set I'd make the fourth one Elite hub - 45 kg, Gripper - CoC 3.5, RT 105kg or 110kg This would become known as the "hub certification", also, it would be a huge challenge for anyone to hit 45kg. 105kg on the RT wouldn't seem bad if it was at that strength but 110kg may be too far for most people to attempt. Lol your right about that I didn't think that through, I think bumping it down to 35kgs would be abit more appropriate. Quote
Stephen Ruby Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Hand size also makes a big difference on the rolling thunder more then any of the other certs. I still think you shouldn't sell yourself short in saying the cert is out of reach. Plenty of smaller guys have done very impressive rolling thunder lifts along other impressive thickbar lifts much harder then a 90kg rolling thunder lift. I don't think ironmind wants to make the certs easier either. I thought that was partly the reason for introducing the CCS when more people were beginning to cert on grippers. Quote Current stats Height 6'8 Hand length from first wrist crease to top of middle finger 8.15 inches Hand width thumb to pinky 9.4 inches Fist size around 11.5 inches Forearm size (straight flexed) roughly 16.5 inches Wrist size 8.2 inches
anwnate Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Being relatively new to the world of grip, and always up for a goal orientated challenge, I really fancied the "crushed to dust" . However, like a few others on the gripboard, I think the 90 kg rolling thunder will never be within my reach. It seems so disproportionate to the hub and grippers. I can close the 2 and lift the 20 but can only pull about 60 on the RT. I would like to see an entry level, a intermediate level and an advanced level. Ironmind would sell more gear and people could progress but at the same time have realistic targets to work towards.. I would set the levels somewhere around here: Entry level Hub - 20 kg, Gripper - CoC 2, RT = 60 kg Intermediate Hub - 25 kg, Gripper - CoC 2.5, RT = 75 kg Advanced Hub - 30 kg, Gripper - CoC 3, RT = 90 kg Were would other people set the boundaries? This whole thing is only a whim but but it might get more people motivated and interested in grip sport. Ps. you could also have a super advanced category for all you really strong folk out there Definitely a good idea, one that Ironmind is sure to dismiss. However, that doesn't mean we can't implement something like this for fun on the Gripboard. Gripbased companies are integral to gripsport, but if and when there is a need to evolve, that can come from within the sport itself. All we need is an agreed upon boundaries for each level (maybe 4 total?) and a list to work up on. Is it true that all of the implements vary? Absolutely...and probably enough to make the difference between someone finally hitting a particular level or not. But it's damn unlikely it would cause a jump of two levels. Just a thought. Quote Current Goal: Train consistently...consistently. "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies." - Stephen King "Grip-ology is the study of pressure and time. That's all it takes really...pressure...and time. That, and a big goddamn poster." - "Red" "The most productive and the most difficult thing about grip training is waiting until your body is ready to train again." - me "We're not here to put another tool in your tool box. We're here to clean out your garage." - Adam T. Glass "Nearly all the satisfaction comes from battling and overcoming your opponent. Having them simply yield to you...leaves little to savor". - me "Get disappointed go smash them tomorrow! What right do they have to make you feel like crap all week?" - Jason Steeves "maybe you just lack natural awesomeness?" - Brent Barbe "We've got to preach the grip gospel." - Jared Goguen
avasatu Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 The hub always seemed random to me. Why not a block? What would you guys make the 3 levels of block pinch barriers to be if they were to be tacked on? Quote
John McCarter Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 The hub always seemed random to me. Why not a block? What would you guys make the 3 levels of block pinch barriers to be if they were to be tacked on? I would suggest these numbers if the pinch block was used instead; these are based on what I've pulled and seen from others do with the Blockbuster. Level 1: 45-50 lbs Level 2: 70-80 lbs Level 3: 95-100 lbs And if there was a Level 4, for only those crazy strong pincher's 120+ lbs Quote "You have to want it more than anything else in your whole life...you gotta want it that bad." - Slim "The Hammer Man" Farman
Fist of Fury Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 It would be awesome with a ladder system. Several levels, like with the Mash Monster grippers. The biggest problem as I see it would be to choose which handle to actually use for the certifications. Since we all know that the original RT is not spinning so well with really heavy weights, it would be better with a handle that spins good all the time. I also like the idea with the pinch block. Pinch hub is not so fun IMO. Quote
Dagars Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 The hub always seemed random to me. Why not a block? What would you guys make the 3 levels of block pinch barriers to be if they were to be tacked on? I would suggest these numbers if the pinch block was used instead; these are based on what I've pulled and seen from others do with the Blockbuster. Level 1: 45-50 lbs Level 2: 70-80 lbs Level 3: 95-100 lbs And if there was a Level 4, for only those crazy strong pincher's 120+ lbs Ah, good idea - but what width of block ? Quote
avasatu Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Anything 1.5 through 3 inches. There is no reason to fix a width. Really you just need to fix a finish. Quote
Jose Cabrera Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Nate introduced blocks that rotate member to member. Im willing to give the funds for a crusher and hub for that kind of certification. A CPW rated gripper can be used for certing the gripper portion I think(for consistent placing). The mm ladder is awesome because everyone closes the same gripper, if someone is willing to safe guard the crusher and hub(as CPW has the mm grippers) this cert will be awesome. The crusher and hub must be from FBBC as they are just plain awesome. Edited December 5, 2015 by Jose Cabrera 3 Quote
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