EricMilfeld Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Before I stumbled on the article last night I was already coming to the conclusion that relative to my max strength my endurance seems to be increasing with age. So, for example, the percentage of my max deadlift weight that I can perform for ten to twenty reps is higher than it was in my twenties and thirties. I can't attribute this to a change in training practices, either. I still train high intensity, low volume, and low reps. The article mentioned a shift with age in the ratio of slow twitch to fast twitch muscle fibers. Maybe this is part of the reason I seem to do better at timed hold events. Any of the older folks notice anything similar? I'm 45, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Dude you're not even old yet. What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 To which article are you referring? This sounds interesting, and I am starting to notice the same thing myself as I get into my late-thirties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellswindstaff Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Doesn't endurance increase with max strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Doesn't endurance increase with max strength? Yes. What Eric is talking about is being able to do more reps with the same % of max (or doing the same number of reps but with a higher % of max) as one ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellswindstaff Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Doesn't endurance increase with max strength? Yes. What Eric is talking about is being able to do more reps with the same % of max (or doing the same number of reps but with a higher % of max) as one ages. Maybe I'm assuming wrong, but since this is grip board I would assume that limit strength is his goal. Thereforth, shouldn't limit strength be increasing as he ages and thus endurace? Sorry I may just not be following you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Limit strength is not the only goal, but it is the goal mostof the time here on the GB. Really anything strength related is on theGB. A “few feats of strength” I see heremake me ask why but then I remember the answer is because they can! Reps on a hard gripper is another goodgoal. I have been just doing max reps onmy #2 with a CCS. My max now is 10 and I’dlike to go up in reps. I have not been maxing out much lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 i think grip endurance is probably the most functional and applicable benefit of grip training there is as a law enforcement professional, i would rather have the endurance of the hand and wrist muscles last enough to survive the onslaught of a violent, drug-frenzied suspect than the ability to put a squeeze from hell but tire quickly balance is key for me, it's not all about numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 i think grip endurance is probably the most functional and applicable benefit of grip training there is as a law enforcement professional, i would rather have the endurance of the hand and wrist muscles last enough to survive the onslaught of a violent, drug-frenzied suspect than the ability to put a squeeze from hell but tire quickly balance is key for me, it's not all about numbers Good point. This isn't the original article, but is more informative: http://www.cbass.com/BendingTheAgingCurve.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Before I stumbled on the article last night I was already coming to the conclusion that relative to my max strength my endurance seems to be increasing with age. So, for example, the percentage of my max deadlift weight that I can perform for ten to twenty reps is higher than it was in my twenties and thirties. I can't attribute this to a change in training practices, either. I still train high intensity, low volume, and low reps. The article mentioned a shift with age in the ratio of slow twitch to fast twitch muscle fibers. Maybe this is part of the reason I seem to do better at timed hold events. Any of the older folks notice anything similar? I'm 45, by the way. Don't worry - this too shall pass . I think some of this can be explained by efficiency - your groove is simply better and you don't get out of position as often any more but I think we just get "tougher" and able to withstand more as we reach middle age. But never fear, another 20 years will take care of it for you. I'll write up some more about my personal aging journey later - I'm on my way out the door to the Arnold right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Gray Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 For me, this is a very personal topic. I am probably the oldest Gripboard member - age 73. I began lifting at age 30. Best lifts between age 40-45 in approximately 15 powerlifting meets. At 198# bodyweight, 5'10" tall, best bench 330#, best squat 450#, best deadlift 525#. 3 years ago, at age 70, bodyweight 195# (my last meet) was a meet for total pounds lifted. (weight x reps) bench 185# x 16 reps, deadlift 200# x 40 reps. (I did not remember those last 5 reps on the deadlift - I think I was hypnotized). In my case, I think it is more a matter of training. I just don't train anymore for a 1 max. single. In years past, did not train for endurance or high reps. Now everything is more in the 8-12 rep. range - with about 45 seconds time under tension. P.S. I was also one of those lifters who always trained with straps - resulting in very poor grip strength. This is why I joined the Gripboard - which has been very helpful. I really enjoy reading the comments posted on the Gripboard, and I am slowly making gains in gripstrength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Gray Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 P.S. to Eric Milfeld. I would like to be age 45 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 P.S. to Eric Milfeld. I would like to be age 45 again. Well, you certainly have the strength, and then some, of a 45 year old. Those are some really impressive reps you recently posted. Coincidentally, you were posting your best powerlifting numbers around the time I started competing. My first meet was the Texas Cup, directed by Chip McCain, in October of 1982. Also coincidentally, you share a birthday with my oldest daughter. Just a different year. Chris, I do agree that I probably lift more efficiently with higher reps today. Lookin' forward to hearing more on your journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellswindstaff Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 i think grip endurance is probably the most functional and applicable benefit of grip training there is as a law enforcement professional, i would rather have the endurance of the hand and wrist muscles last enough to survive the onslaught of a violent, drug-frenzied suspect than the ability to put a squeeze from hell but tire quickly balance is key for me, it's not all about numbers That is very true... I often get so wrapped up in the numbers, that forget some people actually actually NEED different strength qualities and their life my very well depend upon those qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopholes Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 i think grip endurance is probably the most functional and applicable benefit of grip training there is as a law enforcement professional, i would rather have the endurance of the hand and wrist muscles last enough to survive the onslaught of a violent, drug-frenzied suspect than the ability to put a squeeze from hell but tire quickly balance is key for me, it's not all about numbers A good reason to do a high volume of working sets with low reps. You get the maximum strength benefit, combined with the endurance to continue performing at that maximum strength. Of course, if your grip breaks bones, you don't have to worry about holding on for too long. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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