Billy Jack Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Any other guys on here do any really wide two-hand pinch training? I do not have a Euro set-up so I am stuck with just using two 45lb plates and a pipe for adding weight. Mine measures out at ~89mm in thickness. Anyone know what a respectable lift in this wide set-up would be compared to most Euro set-ups that are in the 50-60mm range? Also, any experienced two-hand pinchers thoughts on really wide training? Beneficial? Waste of time? I tried making my own home-made Euro thickness set-up using a 45lb plate and 1/2" plywood cut out to match the size of the plate, but the plywood was just too damn slick. Any other ideas? Thanks for any responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm the opposite of an experienced pincher, but the best gains I ever got on the 2HP were after running Blob KTA, i.e. focusing exclusively on wide pinch. I think I hit a 24lb 2HP PR after 6 weeks of wide pinching and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMorrissey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I have a pinch block that is 75mm wide. The most I've lifted double handed is just under 60kg. I realise that that number isn't fantastic, but for me, anything over 70kg would be impressive (on the same pinchblock) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I used to train on 2x45 that were very wide. that was all I used when I pulled 230 the first time. in my opinion it's better to train wider than narrower. it also depends on what your width is when you lift on an adjustable device. I wouldn't worry about it too much. train hard and you will get stronger. the real issue would be not know ing what you can lift in a comp an an adjustable device. i used to do really wide 2hp like this an an accessory for my 2hp. i think it did help and I've only gotten away from it because there's only so many hours in the day and I have some other things I'm working on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopholes Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I use two old York 45s with a pin through them for my set up. I just started it, so I cant speak from experience, but I fully believe that training on a wide pinch set up will benefit you when you actually get to use an average pinch set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemery Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 This is a respectable weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jack Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 This is a respectable weight. No sir, you are incorrect. That is not a respectable weight. That is an Un-Godly weight!!! Thanks for the responses guys. I am glad to hear that others train in this wide of a fashion. I just wanted to be sure that training this wide with heavier weight would not actually hinder more than help, if that is possible. The first time I did it the other day I felt some really loud popping in my hands and knuckles, so I was afraid that going this wide may actually be counter-productive. When I did another workout last night, it felt a little better, but I wanted to get some opinions on it from experienced guys before moving forward. I think my short-term goal is going to be 150lb for now. I was at ~135 last night and I really have no idea of the best form, hand placement, etc for this lift. So, I should hopefully see some immediate improvement with just a little form correction. I am going to watch some videos and see what instruction I can get. I can only assume that videos from Jedd at Diesel Crew would be helpful for this since he held the record at one point in the 2HP. One last question. Are there any changes I should make to the normal form on this wider set-up that may be different from the normal Euro widths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think that basically the normal form is what you'll go with. It's going to be a good bit different than your comp width just because you won't be able to get your thumbs all the way on. I would really try to get something to pair up with one of those plates to knock some of the width off. like I said, this will work, but the normal widths are better. better for gaining strength, gauging where you can lift on a real device, and better for avoiding injury. sometimes super wide stuff can strain the joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellswindstaff Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think that it was Verkhoshansky that said isometrics trained soley in the lengthened position have the greatest carryover to other ROMs, but you are generally at the greatest leverage disadvantage so the weight will be much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autolupus Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 There will be good carryover but the best way to train for something is to train it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I also don't have a Euro device and regularly train with two 45s. As a comparison, in training I got up to 175 lbs with a two 45s set-up last fall. Then when I attended the Grip Decathlon in Minnesota in October, I tried the Euro for the first time. I believe the width was set at 54 mm, and I lifted close to 215 lbs. So I expect that you will likely be able to lift significantly more on the Euro than what you can lift with two 45s. Training at this width is definitely not a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Euro event is Hugely dependent on finding the best width for you. But that said strength is strength of course and you have to use what you have to train it. But I honestly think that the only way to ever achieve your best competition lifts will be to obtain a setup of some kind that allows you to experiment with the real thing as to widths and develop what I call that 1 + 1 = 3 factor that is so important to big lifts on 2 HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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