King Of Crush = Paul Knight, Level 22, Vulcan

[mightyjoe]

This is INSANE CRUSHING STRENGTH!!!

Congrats Paul!

WOW! Just WOW!

Edited October 14, 2011 by Mighty Joe

[jchapman]

How does this compare to his MM7 and MMS #4 closes? I am not as familiar with the Vulcan levels, except I know I never see anyone talking about level 20 or higher so it must be right up there.

[junior]

Not familiar either, but based on the effort in setting, it was a big close. His strength is obviously impressive, but he also makes good videos.

Looking forward to getting the Vulcan I bought recently after reading so many good reviews.

[macaz]

I think its hard to compare as far as poundage. The Vulcan has high poundage throughout the close while the MM7 ramps up to the end. I rated my V2 and the #s were lower than what I could close on torsion spring grippers by a bunch.

I guess you can just say no one else can close a MM7 or L22 but Paul so they both are really hard.

[Bob Lipinski]

Amazing Paul.

[Geralt]

Take it from me that it is rock hard. The Vulcan is indeed heavy throughout the whole movement of the set, there is no 'easy part' in the set. Combined with the large handle spread, the thing

is a beast to close at higher levels. In fact, the smooth handles and wide set make it a hard gripper to close even at lower settings.

Edited October 14, 2011 by Geralt

[khfm865]

I think its hard to compare as far as poundage. The Vulcan has high poundage throughout the close while the MM7 ramps up to the end. I rated my V2 and the #s were lower than what I could close on torsion spring grippers by a bunch.

I guess you can just say no one else can close a MM7 or L22 but Paul so they both are really hard.

Juha can close vulcanV2 level22 with 20mm block too.

[Bill Piche]

I think its hard to compare as far as poundage. The Vulcan has high poundage throughout the close while the MM7 ramps up to the end. I rated my V2 and the #s were lower than what I could close on torsion spring grippers by a bunch.

I guess you can just say no one else can close a MM7 or L22 but Paul so they both are really hard.

Juha can close vulcanV2 level22 with 20mm block too.

Per the board rules, where is the video?

[khfm865]

I think its hard to compare as far as poundage. The Vulcan has high poundage throughout the close while the MM7 ramps up to the end. I rated my V2 and the #s were lower than what I could close on torsion spring grippers by a bunch.

I guess you can just say no one else can close a MM7 or L22 but Paul so they both are really hard.

Juha can close vulcanV2 level22 with 20mm block too.

Per the board rules, where is the video?

Here you go...

Mind you - Paul is still King of Crush though. I would like to see what Jonathan Vogt is doing at the moment, and Gabriel Sum, and Nathan Holle...

[Chez]

I think its hard to compare as far as poundage. The Vulcan has high poundage throughout the close while the MM7 ramps up to the end. I rated my V2 and the #s were lower than what I could close on torsion spring grippers by a bunch.

I guess you can just say no one else can close a MM7 or L22 but Paul so they both are really hard.

Juha can close vulcanV2 level22 with 20mm block too.

Per the board rules, where is the video?

Here you go...

Mind you - Paul is still King of Crush though. I would like to see what Jonathan Vogt is doing at the moment, and Gabriel Sum, and Nathan Holle...

He posted another video where he just missed level 23 also. dude is a beast.

[bencrush]

Very strong Paul!!!

[rico300zx]

How do those notches add up to 22, 6+7=22?

Rico

[Chez]

How do those notches add up to 22, 6+7=22?

Rico

It doesn't work that way. That particular spring on the bottom notches is already level 3. Moving one notch in the front is 2 levels and one notch in the back is 1 level. So for example it is level 6 with the spring on the second notches front and back, level 5 if its on the second in the front and bottom on the back and level 4 if its on the bottom in the front and second on the back. Horne's site explains the levels for all the different springs.

[rico300zx]

How do those notches add up to 22, 6+7=22?

Rico

It doesn't work that way. That particular spring on the bottom notches is already level 3. Moving one notch in the front is 2 levels and one notch in the back is 1 level. So for example it is level 6 with the spring on the second notches front and back, level 5 if its on the second in the front and bottom on the back and level 4 if its on the bottom in the front and second on the back. Horne's site explains the levels for all the different springs.

Got ya,thanks

[tusrb41]

That is awesome!!!

[RTvG]

Incredible crushing power! Set my vulcans to level 22, just for the feel of it... with two hands and both my knees, I could barely close it a cm or something.

RT.

[Paul Savage]

Pauls good on grippers so i assume this is strong, but it seems a lot of people are thinking that each lvl is the same poundage for every spring, this is not the case. Since it's adjustable the slight variation in the springs (as with torsions) ends up being huge e.g Steves vulcan is the hardest i have tried, i can remember he could do lvl 16 for multiple singles and think lvl 17 as a one off, i think he may have done 23 on Davids? was 20 something. Theres two vulcans i have tried easier than Davids. None of the ones i have tried have been the same. The closest was about 2 levels difference. Great for training with the small increments, but not great for comparing. For that the same gripper would need to be used.

Edited October 15, 2011 by Paul Savage

[mightyjoe]

Pauls good on grippers so i assume this is strong, but it seems a lot of people are thinking that each lvl is the same poundage for every spring, this is not the case. Since it's adjustable the slight variation in the springs (as with torsions) ends up being huge e.g Steves vulcan is the hardest i have tried, i can remember he could do lvl 16 for multiple singles and think lvl 17 as a one off, i think he may have done 23 on Davids? was 20 something. Theres two vulcans i have tried easier than Davids. None of the ones i have tried have been the same. The closest was about 2 levels difference. Great for training with the small increments, but not great for comparing. For that the same gripper would need to be used.

Hi Paul, you make some good points here.

I would be curious to see how Paul compares to the V2 due to all the frames being identical (lazer cut).

I will say this, the silver, black dipped spring is much harder than any to date.

I will take my V2 Vulcan with me when I take my 2HP Euro device over to Eric's for testing to see

how Paul does.

Sound good?

Take care...

[khfm865]

Hi Mighty Joe,

The dipped black springs vary themselves by not an inconsiderable margin. Check out some of the results from Matti's calibration on DH forum. The wasp spring on paper at least seems to be tougher. A new spring called "CROM" is out now, which is 3 levels tougher than anything b4! A total beast of a spring.

[mightyjoe]

Hi Mighty Joe,

The dipped black springs vary themselves by not an inconsiderable margin. Check out some of the results from Matti's calibration on DH forum. The wasp spring on paper at least seems to be tougher. A new spring called "CROM" is out now, which is 3 levels tougher than anything b4! A total beast of a spring.

Hi WAM! I appreciate the info buddy! I will check this out.

Couple of questions: What does CROM stand for? I'm assuming it's an acronym for something.

Why all the different springs? About the time one gets used to a spring another one is avalaible

or made the official one. Honestly, I don't understand this cycle.

Thanks again!

[kogba]

It's just a guess, but maybe "CROM"-a really mighty spring- stands for Conan the Barbarian's God?

[khfm865]

Hi Mighty Joe,

The dipped black springs vary themselves by not an inconsiderable margin. Check out some of the results from Matti's calibration on DH forum. The wasp spring on paper at least seems to be tougher. A new spring called "CROM" is out now, which is 3 levels tougher than anything b4! A total beast of a spring.

Hi WAM! I appreciate the info buddy! I will check this out.

Couple of questions: What does CROM stand for? I'm assuming it's an acronym for something.

Why all the different springs? About the time one gets used to a spring another one is avalaible

or made the official one. Honestly, I don't understand this cycle.

Thanks again!

Hi Mighty Joe,

As I understand the "CROM" is just an abbreviated knickname for a new spring batch of 100 that David has sourced, which is made of Chrome (hence name).

Why all the different springs? I am not entirely sure myself but I think it is purely down to availability - best ask David as I am just hazarding a guess there.

Cheers

[khfm865]

Hi Mighty Joe,

I Pm'd David on his forum and he has sent the following response fyi.

"When we put an order in for new springs, we order the same sizes every time. Each batch is 100-200 springs.

I test all springs with brand new unused springs from previous batches that I still have. I also test a few from each batch too.

These springs 'CROM' - (chrome spring), came out about three levels stronger than the Dipped black, Gold, Black or Red/Black.

If I didn’t test all springs when I got them, and then mark them, or in this case keep them chrome (hence CROM), people would cry about that. This testing and marking allows people to know the difficulty of the spring when they get it."

[Geralt]

And don't forget this guy

MM7 replica

http://www.youtube.com/user/Gripperbookguy#p/u/24/JNVeb-xWDMU

COC#4

http://www.youtube.com/user/Gripperbookguy#p/u/44/c2dtCQPtL-c

[mightyjoe]

Hi Mighty Joe,

I Pm'd David on his forum and he has sent the following response fyi.

"When we put an order in for new springs, we order the same sizes every time. Each batch is 100-200 springs.

I test all springs with brand new unused springs from previous batches that I still have. I also test a few from each batch too.

These springs 'CROM' - (chrome spring), came out about three levels stronger than the Dipped black, Gold, Black or Red/Black.

If I didn’t test all springs when I got them, and then mark them, or in this case keep them chrome (hence CROM), people would cry about that. This testing and marking allows people to know the difficulty of the spring when they get it."

Thanks WAM!

I did the same thing and got the same reply.

Sounds like he should change spring companies for more consistency. Huh?