Experiences On Cc Set Training

[Geralt]

Ok guys,

Just wondering on what methods you found to be helpful in training closing a gripper creditcard set.

the thing is, I know the different methods of training like strapholds/chokerwork/etc. I use an adjustable gripper to train closes

slightly further than parallel by doing 5 reps per hand on one setting. If I can do that, I crank it one notch up for the next level.

My problem is that when I set my goalgripper to parallel I can get it closed (firmly), but when I CC set it, I have problems when entering

the parallel distance...makes sense? Any thoughts would be helpful? Thanks!

[Malice]

I use a gripper harder than my goal gripper and work it with a choker and parallel set. I squeeze it as far as I can and use the other hand to assist it closed the rest of the way then fight it out a little farther than I was able to squeeze it unassisted. That seems to help build up the closing strength and keeps me from running out of gas when working the goal gripper from CCS. What I've found is that by increasing my closing strength it helps a ton on the sweep as well and the carryover is greater than working CCS specifically with the goal gripper. The sweep, especially on CoC's takes a lot out of the hands and even though you can normally close it from parallel the sweep takes a lot of strength/energy or whatever from the hands and kills closing strength. I think working CCS with a gripper harder than your goal gripper would help some too. That's what I'm doing right now with my 3.5 as an experiment.

[Geralt]

Thnx Russ! yeah, that´s in the line what i´m doing at this moment, although I do the (forced) CCS closes with an adjustable gripper. Problem is that

the gripper (Vulcan) isn´t that easy to choke. Besides that wouldn´t be practical because I immediatly have to change the springsetting for doing strapholds in the same session slightly under #3 setting. I set the Vulcan at level 15/16 for the parallel closes attempts, since this should be in the range beyond the COC #3.

Using my COC #4 is a bit to heavy and I don´t have a #3,5. So my training goes something like this:

5 singles #1, 1 single no set #2, 1 attempt CCS #3 (always want to see where I´m at), then strapholds with 2.5 kg, just under #3 level with Vulcan (level 10/11), and forced CCS closes with Vulcan, above #3 setting. Sometimes some heavy negatives. I have a homemade gripmachine, but since i´m working on the #3 certification I try to only train

grippers. I hope it will do the job, I think we´re doing almost the same when I read your training routine. Suggestions are welcome!

[Cannon]

I hate CCS. That's real helpful, right? I hate it bad.

I think most have noticed that as your baseline of strength increases, you can just close easier grippers any way you want. This is my plan. If I can work up to the #3.5 or a hard Elite with an MMS close, I don't think it will take much to fine tune a CCS #3 close.

[Cannon]

Ok guys,

Just wondering on what methods you found to be helpful in training closing a gripper creditcard set.

the thing is, I know the different methods of training like strapholds/chokerwork/etc. I use an adjustable gripper to train closes

slightly further than parallel by doing 5 reps per hand on one setting. If I can do that, I crank it one notch up for the next level.

My problem is that when I set my goalgripper to parallel I can get it closed (firmly), but when I CC set it, I have problems when entering

the parallel distance...makes sense? Any thoughts would be helpful? Thanks!

I have this exact same problem. My guess is that you have something around a 7-3/4" hand? Or smaller?

My hand is about 7-5/8" at best and CCS is just too wide to be comfortable. It feels the same as a no set close. I can't even have my pinkie on the gripper to start. So I have to kind of hook the handle with tips of my fingers and start pulling with 3 fingers. Then there is a weird transition where I need my fingers to slide of the handle, but since I'm pulling with them, they just kind of lock up. Having said all that, I can certainly no set or CCS lighter grippers. So it's just a matter of getting strong enough to manage the weirdness with a #3.

[Geralt]

Well, I had to look it up in google, cause i´m more familiair with cm´s. 7-5/8 inch = 19.36 cm, and my right hand measures

20 cm´s, so we´re at about the same length. And that´s exactly what the problem is, the leverage isn´t optimal for me.

But, as you said it, my lower gripper handles are about the same widht as the #3 and I can no-set those, so it´s

a strength issue here...damn. Well, I WANT to close the #3 CC set at first before I go furhter down the path of

big grippers, but this is a real obstacle at this point. I guess I just want things to fast. And I still need some work

seeing that you still seem to have problems with the CC set of the #3, while being a cert. MM1 now! Congrats, again.

[acorn]

Ok guys,

Just wondering on what methods you found to be helpful in training closing a gripper creditcard set.

the thing is, I know the different methods of training like strapholds/chokerwork/etc. I use an adjustable gripper to train closes

slightly further than parallel by doing 5 reps per hand on one setting. If I can do that, I crank it one notch up for the next level.

My problem is that when I set my goalgripper to parallel I can get it closed (firmly), but when I CC set it, I have problems when entering

the parallel distance...makes sense? Any thoughts would be helpful? Thanks!

I have this exact same problem. My guess is that you have something around a 7-3/4" hand? Or smaller?

My hand is about 7-5/8" at best and CCS is just too wide to be comfortable. It feels the same as a no set close. I can't even have my pinkie on the gripper to start. So I have to kind of hook the handle with tips of my fingers and start pulling with 3 fingers. Then there is a weird transition where I need my fingers to slide of the handle, but since I'm pulling with them, they just kind of lock up. Having said all that, I can certainly no set or CCS lighter grippers. So it's just a matter of getting strong enough to manage the weirdness with a #3.

I have the exact same issue Matt.

- Aaron

[Malice]

Hmmmmm...I didn't think about the issue of small hands. I'm fortunate that my hands are just over 8" so I've never had to deal with not getting all my fingers on the handle for CCS. I guess you can disregard my post then It does make your being so close to CCS on a #3 even more impressive though.

[Geralt]

We´ll see. I´ll do my best, had a session yesterday, but my hands didn´t seem to be in top form, I merely got the #3 closed from deep set, and straphold were

a no go with heavy grippers. I trained two days before, so it´s now final that it´s best for me to only train once a week, two at most with at least four days rest

to get something out of my workout. Had a tip by the way from Carlos F, a member here on the board, to train my CC set with only three fingers so that the pinky

stays in the pocket for the final push in the close.

[madss]

as a small hand guy, I set the gripper really deep, grab the cc and allow the handle to spread wide enough to get the card in, then squeeze. It seam my fingers can a better hold on it that way. practice with a 1 or a 2. I found the 2 was very easy this way. also practice no set 3 closes to work the wide range dexterity, even though it seams impossible, soon it will be with in range.

hope that made sense

[Geralt]

It sure did. Eventually we´ll get the job done.