Bill Piche Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 http://www.cyberpump.com/gallery/album57/aaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harlan Jacobs Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwsome ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripintime2 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Fantastic! He's worked hard for that moment . It's great that Mark was in town and able to attend. Steve deserves some major respect for this lift (and others that he's done). Any pictures of Mark lifting it, too? Wait......I hear some whimpering...............give the #4 a hanky to wipe it's nose............SG is on the way! (sorry....couldn't resist) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 I'm gonna be focusing on the 4 for the next 8 weeks. I hope to get the Mark Henry and me pics back later today. These should have been shot head on and so, unlike the one here, you'll see the free hand is 100% definitely not touching the bell at all. More pics to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Steve I can,t wait to shake your hand mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Congratulations !!! Awesome lift ! 228lbs is already heavy on a conventional handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikael Siversson Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Excellent Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Brutal strength, Steve!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Very well done! Looking forward to your email tonight. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Mobster, Congrats on this awesome feat. Please preen all you want!!! 2003 looks like it could be an auspicious year already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Arogh draft of the article I'll be sending out. This includes all of the saturday event and I'll need help with the names when I post the photos later today. Saturday... Saturday comes and I hadn’t been able to go to sleep until 2am and was lazily lolling around when my brother arrives to do the drive down to Pullum’s new address. So a good breakfast inside of me I roll the bell to the top of our stairs before doing the back sapping carry down. Then we are off. After a 45 minute journey in which I eat a little more and then a drive around town only to find that the building is right next to a station I have used many times I’m confronted with a 4 or 5 storey building. Indeed many moons ago I had visited the gym, called Steps, and recall many, many flights of stairs. Thank goodness Pullum’s is on the ground floor as is there own training area and workshop. I had the pleasure of meeting and greeting Wally, Steve and Chris – all great guys and must make a point of thanking them, Bob Kennedy and Randall Strossen as well as Terry Todd and Mark Henry. As the time arrived my fears that no bugger would come are slowly fading as a few more creep in. Time passes too quickly for me to have the laze and feed I had wanted pre-event. I get to finally meet and see for the first time Mike Betty & Greg Nicholas – who I have been in partnership with in the running of the Whey Consortium for more than 2 years and have never met or even seen. They’re both lumps! In the ‘cor blimey you’re big kind of way’. At about 2 pm I start, hopefully not speaking too fast as I tend to do when either exited or nervous, and introduce myself and what I hope they will learn from the event. I speak in reference many times (something I believe) of the collective knowledge they all possess, the info available from the Gripboard and of David Horne et al’s books, courses etc. We start with a real easy tip ‘squeezing the bar’ and progress onto differing holds inc the now notorious (it can hurt) hook grip. I explain the Ironmind and Ivanko grippers. Shortly after I get going I roll the Millennium dumbbell out into the middle of the 20 or so attendees and give that a good pull (see pic). I talk of the Thomas Inch dumbbell and the Millennium bell and work my way onto thick handles. I’m asked about working weak points and say while I’d need to look, as a coach would, at the individuals problem there are so many movement and or equipment we have now, as opposed to years ago that no one has an excuse – we can help them. I refer, again, to the collective knowledge preferring to ‘facilitate’ rather than speak to. When we train we don’t have time to learn and or share info we possess but the open day gives us a chance. I mention weaver stick work as well as lever bar work. I speak of inverting the grippers and show, in the normal position the 1, 2 and 3 being shut (the number 4 stayed in my bag). I jump back to the thick handles again and load up (myself boo hoo) 80 kilos plus for my first effort which is sufficiently easy for me to talk them through. On the 80 kilos I ask for people to try it and find out that one willing victim is recent Olympic gold medalist David Morgan who cannot budge it. I jump to 100 kilos, again from the floor with the 2.5 inch chalk covered handle and again this is given air time. Nerves and fatigue make me realize that no great records will fall and so I settle for 125 kilos, with the patented tilt, which jut comes up a little. I walk the room and ask if Steve Angell is there, he is and I introduce him. I talk of hidden talents and the potential for strength increases in grip being enormous and also of its application to real world strength and its daily usefulness. We approach the end of my part and I get to the Rolling Thunder and get help loading 80 kilos which comes up easy. I talk some more while 100 kilos is loaded, pull this and make a mental note to remember that a new handle IS harder than a older one. Also I think four new records in one day may have been just a little ambitious. I ask for 125 kilos and pad out the time a little giving myself a break. I make a point of thanking all those – Ironmind, all the magazines – esp Bob Kennedy, Pullum’s et al for the chance to put the event on. I try 125 kilos, which would have equaled the unofficial 282 of Josh Biggers and set a new official world record but no – its not coming. My last tip of the day is the psychological benefits of overloads. I ask for the Rolling Thunder to be loaded to 190 kilos which, along with the handle etc, equates to 427 pounds and with a cheap lifting strap I pull this one handed to a nice round of applause. I had found and prove again that a fully loaded RT means the weights hit the insides of your knees well before complete lock out is possible – use 50 kilo or all thin metal discs! We finished the day with the giving away of Bob Kennedy’s £100.00 prize. Pullum’s had kindly laid out a lifting ‘log’ and 2 farmers walk bells they had made, which both weighed 80 kilos (176 pounds). I ask for suggestions and we settle on lifting and holding for time the bells. Five attempts, all impressive, were made with Mike Betty (of the Whey Consortium) managing 1 minute 35 seconds. Worthy of note was, with a well in excess of one minute, Chris Gladding who is 60 plus years old. David Morgan had 2 goes both well over a minute but the prize went to Steve Angell who managed 1 minute 40 plus seconds complete with bruises from recent bicep tear repair work. Great effort guys and thanks to Bob Kennedy of Muscle Mag International again for the prize. During and afterwards I found out who was who and how they had heard of the event with Hardgainer magazine, Health & Strength and the Gripboard doing well. Richard Vizor brought a shopping bag full of EAS bars which were given away – very kind. Also seen were Paul Paterson and / of the Iron Grip competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATTOO Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Steve It was definately a good event that you put on, and i hope it will be the first of many. The presentation was concise and easy to follow, and some excellent tips/advice was shared. Major respect to you for lifting the MDB, and i hope that there is another picture that shows that your free hand was DEFINATELY clear of the bell. Well done again Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMERHEAD Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Another chapter in grip history is written. Amazing lift. -HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Steve, Fantastic lift! I'm impressed with the height, any higher and it would be contacting your thigh. Even the tilt is not that major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 Awesome job Steve. I can really appreciate the lift. I currently have 32lbs duct taped on top of my Inch Replica for overloads. Sure glad I got the pic posted after I found out carbon monoxide levels in my house were up due to a cracked furnace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 (edited) Wanna, having suffered from a similar thing myself when I was a child I'm glad you escaped!! Mobster, Great report, just a few questions/suggestions, if I may? 1) In the MDB pic you look a little "thicker" than in the photo of you pulling the Inch - what did you weigh and did any increase help? 2) David Morgan is a recent Commonwealth, not Olympic, Gold medalist. I'm sure you were aware of that but the rough article is a little confusing. He is one strong dude, as well as a very good expert commentator (on Eurosport's coverage on the recent World Weightlifting Champs). 3) What do you think you've learnt much from this? As others have said, it takes balls to put yourself on the line like this. Again, congrats!! Edited January 20, 2003 by The Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Wanna,having suffered from a similar thing myself when I was a child I'm glad you escaped!! Mobster, Great report, just a few questions/suggestions, if I may? 1) In the MDB pic you look a little "thicker" than in the photo of you pulling the Inch - what did you weigh and did any increase help? 2) David Morgan is a recent Commonwealth, not Olympic, Gold medalist. I'm sure you were aware of that but the rough article is a little confusing. He is one strong dude, as well as a very good expert commentator (on Eurosport's coverage on the recent World Weightlifting Champs). 3) What do you think you've learnt much from this? As others have said, it takes balls to put yourself on the line like this. Again, congrats!! Bodyweight: I guess I've added over a stone (14 pounds) probably closer to 20 pounds. Has it made my grip better? Hard to say. I am stronger and some of that will be more muscle and some bodyfat. I weighed just under 250 pounds. I know about Dave. I edited the post this am and have changed the draft - cheers. Learnt? I need help and more time. I could have done with 2 or three more 'facilitators' to run things while I lifted or, as I read this am, I aim high and lift low on the day saving anything spare for a great finish. Also, having spoken to David Webster, do niot over train the grip too close to the event. All in all I enjoyed it and would like to do another one - next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripper42004 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Awesome lift Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Mobster, I was suprised when I read your post above just how much energy you had expended with the talking et al.- especially with the Henry visit too. That must have taken a fair degree of nervous energy/anticipation in and of itself talking in front of a large group of people. I will have to get myself up to Luton to have a look round - I'm just disappointed I missed the event itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Congratulations Steve, on a phenomenal lift! What an inspiration for us mere mortals. And wow, that picture of Mark- he looks as if he could lift anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Wow! I'm kindof ignorant on the Mdb so it was quite neat seeing it being lifted. Makes the Inch db look like one of those aeorbic bunny weights Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Wannagrip, Please post the photo showing Mobster's free hand clear of the bell, which [photo]he mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 Wannagrip,Please post the photo showing Mobster's free hand clear of the bell, which [photo]he mentioned. I had emailed Steve earlier tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I did and I had hoped that such a pic had been taken by the girl escorting Mark. However, I have told wanna I will get a pic taken head on with my low res web cam this week. NB: I also had a PM from someone re their 'not asking questions again on the subject'... Given the occasional question raised here and on the notorious DPF I'm tempted to ask what the person will do in return. It does require an effort on my part after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Steve, I have been waiting on the free hand photo before commenting, but in case your comments were directed toward me, let me say this: If your non lifting hand is free of the sphere, and perhaps it is an illusion that such appears to not be the case, your lift is incredible, and you'll remember I had wished you good luck (and that was sincere) to succeed. There is no comparison between your lift and Mark's except his was better because he used each hand for a success. BUT. At your bodyweight, which was only 10% or so more than the bell, this is an absolutely staggering achievement, and compared to Mark's bodyweight, your lift, in comparative olympic weightlifting weight class terms would be like both of you succeeded with, say, a 500 lb clean and jerk- everyone would notice the absolute superiority of your effort. Strangely, some consider bodyweight to not be a factor in grip feats. I do consider it to be a factor. [in fact such a C&J would be double your bodyweight- he would have to C&J 780 to be comparable] So, at your convenience, the other photo or a video to demonstrate the free hand's position would be most helpful. Because as it stands now, the photo presented appears to be an excellent example to demonstrate the training technique a friend has been using: Place the free hand on the side or top of the sphere- and thus that hand CANNOT be aiding in the lift, but it most certainly CAN aid by preventing rotation, and when rotation is out of the lift as a factor, then we have dozens of men, I suspect, who could lift the bell into the position shown. From there it would be only a matter of alerting the photographer when the free hand was to be immediately removed for a snapshot. That's why a video would be better. I did not want to post until after that photo you originally mentioned could be viewed, but some people have been contacting me asking did I not think it appeared that the free hand was stopping rotation. And yes, frankly, that is how it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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