Roark Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 A one word answer to this question, which will be answered later this morning: Will anyone complete a proper one hand deadlift with the Millennium bell? Yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I don't know who is going to be there. Not enough info to say. What strongmen are going to be there competing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 4, 2003 Author Share Posted January 4, 2003 Sorry, I do not know that-other than Schoonveld and Scrivens and Beatty in the pros. I do not expect a full deadlift, but I think the MB will clear the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 No deadlift. I will be bold. No clear of the floor either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Clear off the floor. No FULL deadlift coz it will be done by Mobster...(just kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mac Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Not today - soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 No, unless Phil Pfister makes a surprise appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 No, unless Phil Pfister makes a surprise appearance. That's why I asked who was going to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul valpreda Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I think it will clear the floor, but not be deadlifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwylie1 Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsofStone Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Without knowing who's going to be there, no one knows. But my answer is going to be a confident NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I have to say no. At this point in time I believe only Mark Henry could do any kind of respectable lift with a Millennium bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsofStone Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 (edited) That's exactly what I was thinking as well Oldguy. I hope Henry is the FIRST!! Edited January 4, 2003 by HandsofStone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 4, 2003 Author Share Posted January 4, 2003 Just returned from the Snowman- am in a rush. No one moved the MB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Just returned from the Snowman- am in a rush.No one moved the MB. For someone to lift it WITHOUT owning it they will have to be MUCH stronger than the strength to lift the MDB. I can't even imagine the rotation on that beast. That's why I said it would stay on the ground. The only one with this type of strength might be Henry. John Wood or Steve have the best shot now since they have access to one so they can regularly train with it. Specificity is often underrated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 This relates to my post in the "Inch lift" thread. Inch replicas and Millennium bells are extremely rare items currently. I like to hear about grip feats done with equipment all of us hace access to. As it stands the most likely candidates for lifting a millennium bell are John Wood and Mobsterone, as they have one or more at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 To clarify: if it comes off the ground, wouldn't THAT be considered a "deadlift", or is it only a deadlift according to the rules set by the officials of the meet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 No one lifted the MB off the flat floor- though Brian Schoonveld was on a mission to try! He ended up using the Gardener adaptation, slanted off a wooden riser, and did manage to elevate it slightly that way. A friend has some photos on disk for me but in fact there is not much to see due to lack of success with the MB. Tony Scrivens tried the MB and it did not budge. Josh Biggers, friend of TomofIowa, was there but the MB did not stir for him either. He has a bell of 180 lbs which he uses to practice with-but he has elbow problems at the moment. Frankly, I do not think even Mark Henry could deadlift it- and before an argument starts, let me add that is just an opinion. The MB is a beast, and frankly I have, I have, I have...uh, that is, uh, renewed respect for Mobster Even though he did not flat floor it, what he did what remarkable. He or David may well be the one to pull it first from flat floor. Kim Wood has said that several of the Bengals players got the Inch off the floor on first try! One would also suspect players from other NFL teams could also. But the MB! An extra 60 lbs onto the Inch! Also met AnimalCage from the board- nice fellow who brought his grippers and Josh closed the 3 on the first try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 I wonder the size of those Bengal players. My guess is they wouldn't be small in hand size nor overall body size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 I think that the whole millennium dumbbell thing has become a little absurd. Clearly unless Joe continues to make it available, then only Mobsterone or John Wood will lift it. It has become almost elitest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 OldGuy, With only three MBs in America, you are correct. There is something about the specific size of the MB, that prohibits duplication using 10" pipe filled with lead or whatever. The shape appears to matter: sphere vs pipe. Of course, promoters are free to buy an MB, which is hopefully what will happen at the Arnold. But time is moving. Regarding me making mine available, no problem if the event is close to me, but otherwise, no. Nor do I wish to loan it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 he he he Guys I am in discussion to have three more sent over. All its takes is cash - have a whip round. If someone was to buy the rights to sell it as an agent in the states (which is also being discussed) then, like the Inch but a little more expensive, anyone can have one. Truth be known I never owned an Inch replica or otherwise and as has been said by me before it can be trained for on plate loaded bells like Oldguy owns in the manner I have mentioned before. You don't need to own one to lift it. You can't do negatives with it, you can't do a partial closure or beyond range of motion with it. Just get a bigger handle, work long and hard, specialize and add more weight to your plate loader than the bell you want to lift. Oldguy, for example, needs (even using his personal preference for form) to load his bell to around 200-210 pounds before he will lift the Inch in the same style. As for equipment we can all have access to I recall Ironmind make such handles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 How did the predictions come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 Sir Snott, A bell that only leaves the ground a bit is a deadlift in the same sense as: Partially moving a gripper is a closure Moving the bar upward four inches off the chest is a bench press Partial equals complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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