Sorinex At The Gnc Grip Gauntlet

[Wade Gillingham]

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[vikingsrule92]

I saw the one of Rich and Tex at the Gauntlet a few days ago and I couldn't believe how easy Rich made it look, he really did make it look like a warmup and he looked like he could've snatched the Blob for reps with how easily he pulled it to his shoulder.

[jpmmkrahling]

WOW They made it look more like a race for time between each other.

[MalachiMcMullen]

That blob is way too slick for them to be lifting it so easily!!!

[mightyjoe]

Rich Williams is a monster!

I believe rich Williams and Brian Shaw have the strongest hands on

the planet right now. Just my own opinion here.

Mighty Joe

[jad]

I heard Rich was "spooky" strong and after watching that video I'd have to agree

[Florian Kellersmann]

Those guys need:

1. bigger blobs

2. bigger RT handles

3. harder gripper

Amazing

[mightyjoe]

Those guys need:

1. bigger blobs

2. bigger RT handles

3. harder gripper

Amazing

Maybe they could donate about an inch of their hand length to

me so my hands will be over 7".

Even then they'd have big hands.

Mighty Joe

[The Natural]

Those guys need:

1. bigger blobs

2. bigger RT handles

3. harder gripper

Amazing

Maybe they could donate about an inch of their hand length to

me so my hands will be over 7".

Even then they'd have big hands.

Mighty Joe

Their hands are big but not freakishly big; they're not like Felix. They are just strong.

-Rex

[jad]

Those guys need:

1. bigger blobs

2. bigger RT handles

3. harder gripper

Amazing

Maybe they could donate about an inch of their hand length to

me so my hands will be over 7".

Even then they'd have big hands.

Mighty Joe

Their hands are big but not freakishly big; they're not like Felix. They are just strong.

-Rex

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

They may not have hands as big as Felix but they both have more than enough handsize to make the widepinch and thickbar portion of these feats a joke. I was most impressed with the gripper portion on both of them because handsize can't overcome the gripper, although it will make it easier if maximum set depths are enforced. However they both crushed it like a grape. I also love the way that Rich (I think?) looked like he barely grabbed the blob and still pulled it with ease (watch his finger position).

Edited March 22, 2009 by jad

[Too Tall]

I wish Rich, Tex and Wade were competing in my competition...maybe they will reconsider by game time

[vikingsrule92]

I wish Rich, Tex and Wade were competing in my competition...maybe they will reconsider by game time

I really wish they would!! It's be awesome to compete next to those monsters AND they would bring the fatmen

[The Natural]

They may not have hands as big as Felix but they both have more than enough handsize to make the widepinch and thickbar portion of these feats a joke.

Both Wade's blob and the new RT at 207 are good feats regardless of hand size. They are not "jokes". I'm sure Wade sees 100 guys with big hands not lift those things for every big-handed guy that does. More like 200, I'd say, given how many people I heard tried them at the Arnold.

I'm curious about this guys. Everyone knows on some intuitive level that these guys are some of the best around. Yet almost every feat that Sorinex puts on video regarding their strength involves a "hand size dependent event". Even the gripper stuff. So what's the breaking point for everyone out there? If Rich lifts 207 pounds on the new RT, and it's regarded as a "joke", what weight does the man--or anyone else with big hands--have to lift to prove he's strong? How much extra weight added to Wade's blob would satisfy the majestic Gripboard tribunal? I think it would be a good idea to get some clear standards set down, so that there's no room for evasion later on.

-Rex

[Too Tall]

I wonder why Rich has not been added to the list for the 3 and 3.5 close? He killed those mothers

[TKtheGreek]

They may not have hands as big as Felix but they both have more than enough handsize to make the widepinch and thickbar portion of these feats a joke.

Both Wade's blob and the new RT at 207 are good feats regardless of hand size. They are not "jokes". I'm sure Wade sees 100 guys with big hands not lift those things for every big-handed guy that does. More like 200, I'd say, given how many people I heard tried them at the Arnold.

I'm curious about this guys. Everyone knows on some intuitive level that these guys are some of the best around. Yet almost every feat that Sorinex puts on video regarding their strength involves a "hand size dependent event". Even the gripper stuff. So what's the breaking point for everyone out there? If Rich lifts 207 pounds on the new RT, and it's regarded as a "joke", what weight does the man--or anyone else with big hands--have to lift to prove he's strong? How much extra weight added to Wade's blob would satisfy the majestic Gripboard tribunal? I think it would be a good idea to get some clear standards set down, so that there's no room for evasion later on.

-Rex

Its easier to make an excuse for someones success than it is to train and match it

[MalachiMcMullen]

They may not have hands as big as Felix but they both have more than enough handsize to make the widepinch and thickbar portion of these feats a joke.

Both Wade's blob and the new RT at 207 are good feats regardless of hand size. They are not "jokes". I'm sure Wade sees 100 guys with big hands not lift those things for every big-handed guy that does. More like 200, I'd say, given how many people I heard tried them at the Arnold.

I'm curious about this guys. Everyone knows on some intuitive level that these guys are some of the best around. Yet almost every feat that Sorinex puts on video regarding their strength involves a "hand size dependent event". Even the gripper stuff. So what's the breaking point for everyone out there? If Rich lifts 207 pounds on the new RT, and it's regarded as a "joke", what weight does the man--or anyone else with big hands--have to lift to prove he's strong? How much extra weight added to Wade's blob would satisfy the majestic Gripboard tribunal? I think it would be a good idea to get some clear standards set down, so that there's no room for evasion later on.

-Rex

Its easier to make an excuse for someones success than it is to train and match it

Unless it's biomechanically impossible

[jad]

They may not have hands as big as Felix but they both have more than enough handsize to make the widepinch and thickbar portion of these feats a joke.

Both Wade's blob and the new RT at 207 are good feats regardless of hand size. They are not "jokes". I'm sure Wade sees 100 guys with big hands not lift those things for every big-handed guy that does. More like 200, I'd say, given how many people I heard tried them at the Arnold.

I'm curious about this guys. Everyone knows on some intuitive level that these guys are some of the best around. Yet almost every feat that Sorinex puts on video regarding their strength involves a "hand size dependent event". Even the gripper stuff. So what's the breaking point for everyone out there? If Rich lifts 207 pounds on the new RT, and it's regarded as a "joke", what weight does the man--or anyone else with big hands--have to lift to prove he's strong? How much extra weight added to Wade's blob would satisfy the majestic Gripboard tribunal? I think it would be a good idea to get some clear standards set down, so that there's no room for evasion later on.

-Rex

So they're some of the best around because they were able to pinch 50# on something that is only hard because it's wide and lift 207# something that's only hard because it's thick and they both have very large hands??? I'm not denying their strength, I thought I made that pretty clear( agreed that Rich is "spooky strong"). As for the grippers: I said that was the thing that impressed me most. Is Teemu and Tex CCS a 3.5 the same feat? Not even close but it's impressive either way. Here's an idea, maybe they could try some non-handsize dependent events (2HP vs. blobs, 1HDL on standard oly bar vs thickbar, etc...)?? Radical concept, I know. As for the blob and RT; hell I don't know; maybe top 5 in blob with weight and RT?? I don't really keep up with either list but I feel pretty confident that lifting Wade's blob and a 207 RT, even on a new handle doesn't put them there.

[The Natural]

So they're some of the best around because they were able to pinch 50# on something that is only hard because it's wide and lift 207# something that's only hard because it's thick and they both have very large hands??? I'm not denying their strength, I thought I made that pretty clear( agreed that Rich is "spooky strong"). As for the grippers: I said that was the thing that impressed me most. Is Teemu and Tex CCS a 3.5 the same feat? Not even close but it's impressive either way. Here's an idea, maybe they could try some non-handsize dependent events (2HP vs. blobs, 1HDL on standard oly bar vs thickbar, etc...)?? Radical concept, I know. As for the blob and RT; hell I don't know; maybe top 5 in blob with weight and RT?? I don't really keep up with either list but I feel pretty confident that lifting Wade's blob and a 207 RT, even on a new handle doesn't put them there.

Unless it's biomechanically impossible

There's much to address here.

1) "His hands are big" has very lately been given free reign on the Gripboard as a qualifier on grip performances. This should not be allowed. There's a point at which this qualifier ceases to be relevant and becomes petty. Now, the small-handed crowd has been hopping all over the continuum with impunity, dismissing even good and great feats with this qualifier. In the process they make themselves look very stupid. The grip community needs to establish some guidelines about what numbers on the various hand-size dependent events are conclusive evidence of good grip strength. Once this takes place, appropriate use of the qualifier in question will become restricted: only in certain situations will one be able to use it without losing credibility.

2) I worry that "biomechanically impossible for small-handed people" is going to indicate the exact same range of weights on a hand-size dependent event as the range of weights that a big-handed person must lift to be considered strong. The motivation for this, clearly, would be to avoid the risk that comes with there being a range of weights that 1) are possible for the small-handed crowd to lift and 2) that big-handed guys can lift to be counted as strong. If there were to be such a range, then when a small-handed guy fails to lift a weight in that range, he can't attribute it just to hand size. Defining this range out of existence, then, is another way for the small-handed crowd to maximize the utility of their favorite qualifier.

-Rex

[Bob Lipinski]

Oh Rex, there you go again! Josh said they did good on the grippers!

[jad]

#1 sounds like a great idea, agreeing to what those are would likely be easier said than done but I like the concept. Of course we could save a lot of time and arguing and just assess people based on non-handsize dependent lifts and if we wanted to get really crazy, maybe even non-handsize dependent lifts done in a contest, before we go crowning people as having the strongest hands on the planet. However, lately, the grip world seems obsessed with wooing strongmen types at all costs, common sense and logic be damned! Pointing out facts regarding strongmen type's feats isn't being the voice of reason, it's being jealous and will not be tolerated! Don't forget we need to be very careful to pick events that they like, high risk events (See The Natural, for definition) and watch our P's and Q's on message boards, otherwise they may not grace us with their presence. Afterall, we can't expect them to come compete in somebody's backyard for little to no money, especially if the events don't favor them. Competing for love of the sport is only for grip nerds.

[The Natural]

Here's a more concise way of putting the second of my points.

I think there exists a range of weights on hand-size dependent events where big hands are a help, but not a requirement; any weight within that range indicates good hand strength even for big handed folks.

Josh's suggestion (top 5 performance) makes it so that big hands are a requirement, and not just an asset. For example, big hands are required to be top 5 in the world on the Rolling Thunder. No question about that. Nobody with small hands will ever be in that range. But can performances that are less than top 5 (e.g. 207 pounds on the new RT handle) still be conclusive evidence of good grip strength for those with big hands? I say Yes. Are there some with small hands who can do that? Yes.

So this seems to be the real issue here. Are big hands a requirement for the range of weights on a hand-size event that a big-handed guy must lift to be strong? Yes or no?

-Rex

[dubthewonderscot]

i honestly have no problem with Rex's post.

if we keep the all of our ego's at the door, we don't care how big a mans hands are, he simply did an incredible feet of strength. Yeah, bigger guys are stronger than little guys. That doesn't mean that we can't be impressed because a D-lineman can do things with ease against an O-lineman than a cornerback cannot just because he's bigger. It's still impressive. I say full kudo's to the guys for getting on the platform. It's inane stuff like we do on here that keeps us from being legit guys.

I hope we can see past our noses and accept them in. We need them more than they need us I promise you.

[jad]

Here's a more concise way of putting the second of my points.

I think there exists a range of weights on hand-size dependent events where big hands are a help, but not a requirement; any weight within that range indicates good hand strength even for big handed folks.

Josh's suggestion (top 5 performance) makes it so that big hands are a requirement, and not just an asset. For example, big hands are required to be top 5 in the world on the Rolling Thunder. No question about that. Nobody with small hands will ever be in that range. But can performances that are less than top 5 (e.g. 207 pounds on the new RT handle) still be conclusive evidence of good grip strength for those with big hands? I say Yes. Are there some with small hands who can do that? Yes.

So this seems to be the real issue here. Are big hands a requirement for the range of weights on a hand-size event that a big-handed guy must lift to be strong? Yes or no?

-Rex

The ranges are different depending on your handsize. For example, Odin pulling 220 on the RT and Rich pulling 220# are two separate things and grouping them together is just silly.

[jad]

i honestly have no problem with Rex's post.

if we keep the all of our ego's at the door, we don't care how big a mans hands are, he simply did an incredible feet of strength. Yeah, bigger guys are stronger than little guys. That doesn't mean that we can't be impressed because a D-lineman can do things with ease against an O-lineman than a cornerback cannot just because he's bigger. It's still impressive. I say full kudo's to the guys for getting on the platform. It's inane stuff like we do on here that keeps us from being legit guys.

I hope we can see past our noses and accept them in. We need them more than they need us I promise you.

What platform? Chad is throwing arguably the biggest grip contest ever and they pulled out. I'd openly welcome anybody at a grip contest. We need more participation! However, I'm not going to tailor contests around them because they may not like or may not be comfortable with some "standard" events.

Edited March 22, 2009 by jad

[Bob Lipinski]

Ditto on what Josh says. Hell, I almost always have a "big hands" event at one of my contests cause they are traditional events.

What our argument here comes from is lack of experience. Everyone knows how size relates to the standard lifts- A 300 pound guy pulling 600 is merely okay, a 123 pound guy doing it is amazing. A 900+ deadlift is amazing no matter how much you weigh.

In time we will know.