bencrush Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 I tried closing my #3 while holding the spring, and was able to fully close for one rep. I am normally about 1/8" away on a good day (without holding the spring). Can anyone who has tried both styles tell me whether it's worth it to close the gripper while holding the spring, even though I know it's not allowed for certification? Thanks all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 You can hold the spring in order to help close the #3 as an aid to doing a negative with the gripper closed. Soon you won't need to use your free hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 I've never used this technique myself (don't know why actually), but I think it's a good one to use. However, don't get dependent on it. I would use it after your normal attempts. Try and build up the volume of closes with the spring held. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff0 Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Errr, WHOAH. I'm at ~1/4" and grabbing the spring got it down to a credit card-sized gap. Maybe I'll get my cert standing in front of a white wall wearing white gloves so no one can see me holding it. :hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted November 10, 2002 Author Share Posted November 10, 2002 Thanks for the replies guys. I'll keep spring-held closes, but put them after my conventional reps (Thanks Wannagrip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tou Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 I tried it and I closed the #3 easily for 3 singles. Might be good after the regular singles attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Can one of the physic majors explain in simple lanuage why holding the spring would be such an assitance? Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drassk Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 I'm a math major, not a physics guy but I have taken some physics. I think the point of holding the spring is that the gripper cannot rotate in your hand which means it stays in the position of best leverage throughout the movement. It's akin to bench-pressing on a machine. Since you don't need to hold the bar in the proper arc, you can lift more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Interesting point Drassk. Here is something I do in which I do not understand at all. I have been working on pinch plates for a few months now and am trying to get a clean pull with a pair of 35s. At this point I am able to break them from the floor one handed about an inch or so. However, when I take my off hand and without any pinch pressure rest it on the plates, they come up like a doll. When I have the plates up to a standing position, I remove the off hand for my timed hold. I return the off hand to a rest position (no pinch pressure) to lower. I do that 'cause the plates are coming down in a Hurry Maybe it is a mind thing or a little extra "Neural pathway" help. Kinda like spotting on a heavy bench I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Interesting, I wonder then if grip machines need to build some instability in the design to mimic a better training effect for the grippers then. Zcor, I was there back in the summer needing to put a finger from my freehand on the plates or I couldn't budge them off the floor. Then I reversed the plates I pinched for my warmups (I warm up with a 35 and 25plate, so what I mean by reversing is I put the bigger plate on my thumb side) for a while and then I was able to do the 35's with no assist. Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chessp1 Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 PS: Try attaching a 1/4 by 21/2 steel rod to #4 to do negative on and then try doing the #3 after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdawg Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 i tried this yesterday in my workout. before i had be saving my #3 for negatives mainly, and using it ISG for max singles, but yesterday i decided to give the 3 an all out go. with one hand i managed to get it around 1/4 of an inch, but when i grabbed the spring with my oposite hand i was able to squeeze it down to nearly 1/8 of an inch. i couldn't hold it for a negative though because i got so excited my concentration just snapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 11/10/2002 at 8:33 AM, bencrush said: Thanks for the replies guys. I'll keep spring-held closes, but put them after my conventional reps (Thanks Wannagrip). I was going through some old posts and found this one. Was asked by a coworker if I had ever tried holding the spring to train for the close. Told him I had, but didn't think I ended up spending much time with it for whatever reason. I did forget that I closed a #3 (holding the spring) about 2.5 years before I certified though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist of Fury Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Assisted closes for heavy singles with grippers harder than your max or as a finisher on a high rep set is great. I never actually touch the spring while I do these, I just put my finger highest up on the handle on the finger side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthecat Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 11/11/2002 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan McMillan said: Interesting, I wonder then if grip machines need to build some instability in the design to mimic a better training effect for the grippers then. Zcor, I was there back in the summer needing to put a finger from my freehand on the plates or I couldn't budge them off the floor. Then I reversed the plates I pinched for my warmups (I warm up with a 35 and 25plate, so what I mean by reversing is I put the bigger plate on my thumb side) for a while and then I was able to do the 35's with no assist. Jon@han I think what you're trying to get at are degrees-of-freedom. Instabilities would be bad On 11/9/2002 at 0:34 PM, bencrush said: I tried closing my #3 while holding the spring, and was able to fully close for one rep. I am normally about 1/8" away on a good day (without holding the spring). Can anyone who has tried both styles tell me whether it's worth it to close the gripper while holding the spring, even though I know it's not allowed for certification? Thanks all. By holding the spring, you're essentially reducing the load on your gripper hand. So, it's good for training but you aren't technically closing the gripper with one hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Murray Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm going to try this at the end of my next training session after I've done my regular routine. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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