marcob Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I would like to organize a combined grip/strong man/highland games competition in Holland. I know a lot of strong man who would like to help me with this. (Wout Zijlstra/Jan Haaring/Fouad Housani/Dave Mossing) Is anyone else interested in this kind of event? Should it be an open tournament also for people from abroad? In Holland I think only Mark and me are gripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 The events I'm thinking about are: V-bar 1 or 2" Appolons Axle Pinch/pinchblock Grippers Truckpull Wheelflip Medley (timberwalk/duckwalk/loading 2pieces) Loading event Highthrow Caber for distance Stonethrow Hammerthrow A choice from 2 of these things per sorts.Possible:V-bar/pinchblock/truckpull/loading/stonethrow/highthrow? ; any suggestions? Maybe an A/B/C class event. First have contact with Jan and Wout if they can help me with the strongmanequipment. Grip and Highland equipment I have, so that part is no problem. I am thinking somewhere in October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickr104 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 It sounds Great to me But I don't think I can make it to Holland. IF you put it on I would like to see how it gos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Maybe it is an idea to make 3 groups and see at the end who is strongest and of course also an individual classifying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I've done a couple of hybrid games. It seems like it works better if the grip events aren't strictly grip. ie. DO axle deadlift is better than v-bar. Just what I've seen in the past. brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Sounds a good concept and I would be interested, but havn't done any Highland games type of events and from what I have seen the throws are quite technical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Thanks for the reactions. Appolon's Axle better than V-bar. Good thought. For Highland Games you need technique on the weight for distance, but stonethrow, highthrow and caber is good to use no technique but more power. For instance on the stonethrowlist in Holland I am still nr. 1 or 2 in the B-class in Holland and I havenot done this for 3 years without ever using technique and by the way it will be highthrow, stonethrow,WFD, or hammer. Not the caber, because this is so difficult to judge. Who knows when it is 12 o clock or 10 past 11 for example. I donot. And the caber is very dangerous; Once it slipped and I got the full 80 kg's on my right-arm. You could hear the sound KRAKKK. The audience thought it was my arm that was breaking, but it was part of the caber. It hurted like hell but Wout Zijlstra gave me the nickname toughest Man in Holland, also because I practise Highland Games when it rains or when it is minus 10 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) If that's the case then although I Would not want to commit at this early stage a combined this sort of strongman/grip comp would suit me quite well so if it goes ahead and is open to people outside Holland I may well be interested in taking part. Edited June 4, 2008 by Stew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 A really strong man from Holland (nr.4) wants to help me with the equipment for the strong man part. He also wants to compete! So if that is the case we need real strong people for the grip. We want to win this kind of event. What is an event that is difficult for strong man? 1 hand pinchblock, V-bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 My training is strongman based and I am gradually improving on the grip side of things, the event I find hardest is Grippers.IMO To be good a grippers you need to train grippers and most strongmen dont. That said I dont think its a great event in a competition particularly for the crowd watching as its very difficult to see anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Marco, There are some grip events that are great for the crowd, very visual, and others that are, well, crappy really. Here's a couple of ideas for your comp, on events that may look good. 1st event. Is the Plank Pinch Lift, check the video on the link, it's about halfway through. This can be done for max or reps, and is cheap to make. 2nd event. Dinnie Ring Lift for reps. We used it at my Dad's memorial comp, and is easy to ref, has history and looked good. 3rd event. Maybe some kind of big steel bending, as once again visually it looks good. There are many other ideas that I have and am putting them together for next years Champion of Champions. Hope this helps, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thanks a lot David and Stew, Grippers is nice when an event is small, but for this event I expect minimum 500 spectators (can be over 1.000), so Stew you are right for people who stand over 10 meters from it, it is impossible to see if it closes. And David, nice video It looked so nice, but IMO the Strong Man have a grip that is too well, because they do Hercules Hold and I have seen strong man bending a bicycle, and the 3 groups must not have an edge, that is also why highthrow will not be it for the Highland Games, because strong man use this as an event too. I am really thinking about 1 hand pinchblock, because they will use chalk or do it with sweaty hands and the V-bar, because they have never done this, but all ideas are very welcome. If it goes on who wants to come? Will be end of the year or somewhere around April/May. The event I am thinking about are:Grip:V-bar/1 hand pinchblock Strong Man: Wheelflip/medley or loading event Highland Games: Putting the stone 22kg/weight for distance 25kg But all is open: who has some nice suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wscorpion Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 If you plan on going for October then I won't be able to make it (I will become a dad ~23rd of October), but if it's around apr / may then it shouldn't be a problem. As for the events, I don't know much about HL events, but I would go for the least technical ones. For the strongman events I would go for events which will be doable for every competitor. For example, if you setup 350kg deadlifts for reps, then several contestants won't be able to get the thing off the ground In such a case I would prefer the truckpull for example, also because I've never done a truckpull before and would love to give it a try sometimes As for grip, well, we know the events should be interesting to view. That rules out unbraced bending and grippers. perhaps hold for time on a 2" or 3" bar would be nice, a loading event or braced bending. There's plenty of stuff to think off. If you do plan on doing grippers, then I would suggest a stand at the entrance with the grippers used in the contest (or similar) for the audience to try so they can relate to it before they see the event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 Thanks Mark, A deadlift from 350kg. That would rule out a lot of guys, including myself. Maybe a car deadlift for reps? Is it smart for me also to compete? I want to organize the event and do the presentation. Maybe for the entertainment also sing a few songs. Will it be too much for me? The truckpull is difficult to borrow, but on an athletic track maybe pull a car for 100/200 meters? For the event it is nicest to have minimum 3 persons of each group. It will be next year, because the calendar in Holland is very full in the last months of this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcob Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 The location will be a sportclub; good for walking events. I will talk to the people who manage it. It is in Grootebroek????? There we can throw, it has a cantina and proper toilets. For afterwards there is enough space maybe to show the other sporters what can be done with grippers, stones, pinch etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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