Is A Pullup On Im Hub's Possible?

[lifesnotfair]

Hey, do you guys think someone could do a pullup using two IM hubs upside down to grab onto? There are guys doing close to 100lbs in practise on this hub, but I think they use V-bar style of grip. But using the fingertips some guys have reached good poundages, haven't they? .. Maybe it would have to be a light guy (150lbs max or so?) who can do close to 75 on the hub with the fingertips style (which I assume it's the style meant to use on this device anyways). That would be some crazy fingertip strength.

[pdfk20]

That would be insane

[The Mac]

Possible, highly bloody unlikely.

[twig]

I'm suprised Brad Johnson hasn't already tried it. He's done pull-ups with virtually everything else Ironmind sell!

[gumpster]

Crazy idea, but I'd love to see it on video.

[mobsterone]

Viper will do one but you'll see not a lot ha ha

[The Mac]

The camera will sadly pan to what is now probably the most famous white panel door in all of Gripdom.

[pdfk20]

lol

[Number Ten Ox]

I'm curious. I'll try and set something up and let you know. I don't have the IM product but I could rig up something similar. My weight is down to 135 right now so I may have a shot. We also need to get Ivarboneless on this.

[Hubgeezer]

People who can pinch rafters and do pullups are good candidates. Are there people out there who can do that, and then have weights totalling 20% of their bodyweight strapped around their waist? My estimate is that it would be roughly 20% harder than rafter pinch pullups.

[Koura]

People who can pinch rafters and do pullups are good candidates. Are there people out there who can do that, and then have weights totalling 20% of their bodyweight strapped around their waist? My estimate is that it would be roughly 20% harder than rafter pinch pullups.

I can do couple of rafter pullups on my own weight. And when i put about 7kg weight on my backpack i can do one pullup. But i really suck on hublifts. I can barely lift 10kg plate.

[kilkkinen]

I have to try it tomorrow. Idont have IM-hub, but I do replicas on the wood.I can hang a while in rafter with 20 kgs extra weight. Also I have done one rafterpullup with 12.5kg extraweight. My own bodyweight is 92kg´s .

[Condor]

My estimate is that it would be roughly 20% harder than rafter pinch pullups.

When you do a rafter pullup you use can use a lot of chest strength, but that is impossible if you pull from two hanging IM hub, so i think it would be much more than 20% harder.

I'm sure Brad Johnson can do that

[Hubgeezer]

My estimate is that it would be roughly 20% harder than rafter pinch pullups.

When you do a rafter pullup you use can use a lot of chest strength, but that is impossible if you pull from two hanging IM hub, so i think it would be much more than 20% harder.

I'm sure Brad Johnson can do that

You know, I was thinking of just hanging from the IM Hubs, not doing a pullup. In response to the original inquiry, I guess my answer is "no", but I think simply hanging from two of them would be EXTREMELY impressive. And yeah, it would be way more than 20% more difficult to do pullups, so much that I don't think it could be done. Nope, don't think it could.

[supersqueeze]

Tommy's got a good pinch, a good hub lift, and a fairly light bodyweight. We've seen him lift a 45 lb plate in each hand by the hub, but that still leaves about 80 lbs to go to reach his bodyweight (40 more in each hand). I'm with Geezer, nope!

[dimmers]

I would love to see this done, but i doubt it is possible (who knows though, i may be completely wrong).

Interesting topic though. Surely some of the top guys in climbing may stand a chance? i'm sure they would be the ones to tell you if something like that was possible as well, as they train all sorts of different holds.

[MalachiMcMullen]

Sounds like the kind of discussion the MDB had a few years ago, then Moberstone/Mark Henry/Snook/Odd lifted it(not in that order I know). I'll say I think it could be done but not by anyone of size. I don't think Chad Woodall will be the one to do it first but someone Tommy's size or smaller I think could get it. It'd be like the powerilfting total vs. bodyweight thing, little old Oleksandr Kutcher can total 13+x his BW but do you think someone like Ryan Kennelly or Andy Bolton could?

[lifesnotfair]

Fellas, haven't some guys Hublifted a 45lb plate with added weight? I seem to recall some people doing that. I think Dan Praydis and his son were lifting 45's by the hub with lots of added weight? THey're heavy guys though, if I remember correctly.

I think one of those 130-140 guys could pull it off with some training, they'd need to be doing around 65-70 on the IM Hub for a single, using the fingertip style... that must be achievable, since the IM hub allows you to lift much more than the hub on a plate.

Now, a pullup on two 45lb plates upside down, that's another story

[lifesnotfair]

Take a look at this thread...

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtop...3&hl=45+hub

It seems that several people have done 45lb PLTAES plus added weight ... including several board members, it appears. Now, like I stated above, I believe people can do more on the IM hub that on the plate itself.. so, if any of these guys who were doing 65lb+ on the plates (which would equal a certain % more on the hub, for sure), would be light enough, they could pull it off.

In other words, I can't see how some of you think this is "impossible"... I'm sorry Hubgeezer, but I'm 100% sure than someone could do this.

To the guy that suggested Tommy could do it: he does have great strength, but isn't he like 170lb? I was thinking that some 130-140lb guy would have a better chance, since that's a lot of weight less... even if they had less strength than Tommy and others, they'd have a big chance because of their light weight. Maybe some light rock climbers could pull this off with some training..... who knows.

[G-Man]

Possible, highly bloody unlikely.

I agree. First, I thought that would be impossible, but after reading that the record is 90-pounds [!!!], maybe it is possible, but very unlikely.

The most likely candidate might be a 130-pounder who can hub-lift 70 pounds (or maybe a 140-pounder who can hub-lift 75-pounds) - is there even such a thing?

I imagine he would have to be some sort of genetic freak - like being born with an overactive gland causing abnormally large and strong hands - all while having a small and light frame.

[Hubgeezer]

In other words, I can't see how some of you think this is "impossible"... I'm sorry Hubgeezer, but I'm 100% sure than someone could do this.

To the guy that suggested Tommy could do it: he does have great strength, but isn't he like 170lb? I was thinking that some 130-140lb guy would have a better chance, since that's a lot of weight less... even if they had less strength than Tommy and others, they'd have a big chance because of their light weight. Maybe some light rock climbers could pull this off with some training..... who knows.

Here are my presumptions:

Most humanly possible at this time on IronMind Hub (nonVbar style)...100 lbs

Amount of "extra" oommph to do a pullup on two IronMind Hubs... 30%

Effective maximum for pullups 100 lbs divided by 1.3 equals... 76.92 lbs

Assuming Two hands are equal, so multiply the above by two...153.84 lbs

So, if there is a 154 pound guy (or less) who has finger strength approximately 25% more than Richard Sorin in his prime, I believe it can be done. I don't believe that Richard has done more than 80 pounds on the IronMind Hub. (80 times 125% is 100, is my "most humanly possible at this time" figure) No one has ever claimed more than 90 on any type of hub lift (other than Vbar style).

The biggest flaw in the above logic is whether or not it would take 30% more oommph to do a pullup on an IM Hub than simply lifting it to knee height. Most folks here thought it would take more than 20%.

A 123 lb guy who has finger strength the same as Richard Sorin in his prime could also do it.

Impossible? No. Probable? Absolutely not.

Edited August 8, 2007 by Hubgeezer

[twig]

In other words, I can't see how some of you think this is "impossible"... I'm sorry Hubgeezer, but I'm 100% sure than someone could do this.

To the guy that suggested Tommy could do it: he does have great strength, but isn't he like 170lb? I was thinking that some 130-140lb guy would have a better chance, since that's a lot of weight less... even if they had less strength than Tommy and others, they'd have a big chance because of their light weight. Maybe some light rock climbers could pull this off with some training..... who knows.

Here are my presumptions:

Most humanly possible at this time on IronMind Hub (nonVbar style)...100 lbs

Amount of "extra" oommph to do a pullup on two IronMind Hubs... 30%

Effective maximum for pullups 100 lbs divided by 1.3 equals... 76.92 lbs

Assuming Two hands are equal, so multiply the above by two...153.84 lbs

So, if there is a 154 pound guy (or less) who has finger strength approximately 25% more than Richard Sorin in his prime, I believe it can be done. I don't believe that Richard has done more than 80 pounds on the IronMind Hub. (80 times 125% is 100, is my "most humanly possible at this time" figure) No one has ever claimed more than 90 on any type of hub lift (other than Vbar style).

The biggest flaw in the above logic is whether or not it would take 30% more oommph to do a pullup on an IM Hub than simply lifting it to knee height. Most folks here thought it would take more than 20%.

A 123 lb guy who has finger strength the same as Richard Sorin in his prime could also do it.

Impossible? No. Probable? Absolutely not.

A Mathnerd, too? You just went up in my estimation! Which, given the respect I already had for you, is no mean feat! My hat is off to you, Sir.

Still, you have to admit, if anyone could: it's Brad.

[lifesnotfair]

Nice calculated statistics, although I don't agree with some of your estimations, I'll just keep thinking this could be done, thanks for your thoughts Hubgeezer.

G-Man: You don't need "abnormally large hands caused by some gland genetically altered" or whatever you said, heh heh heh. Look at Tommy Heslep, he was like 165lb when he certified on closing the #4 gripper, and his hand is not big, it's merely average I think (less than 8" from tip of middle finger to crease on the wrist). I think if something some of these guys have proven is that you don't need to be huge to develop handstrength. Wasn't the lightest CoC some asian dude who weighed like 130lbs? ... Like I said, I'm sure some lightweights could pull it off, there are more light men than you'd think... like in those European AW tourneys, the 55kg (121lb) probably has men that could beat your average gym rat 50% heavier than that. Ok I'm getting off-topic, all I mean is, that I'm sure it can be done, and when it's done, I'm sure it's gonna be a light guy... we just need to get some light fella training for it.

[supersqueeze]

Lifesnotfair,

Who suggested that Tommy could do it?

[lifesnotfair]

Lifesnotfair,

Who suggested that Tommy could do it?

Nobody did. However, you mentioned him as an example, saying that since we've seen him do dual hub lifts with 45lb plates, that leaves about 80lbs to go... However, research shows of one guy doing 90lbs on a PLATE (which, like I've stated before, must probably mean a little more on a IM Hub, I would think, since everyone can do more on the Hub than in a plate). So, seeing that even Hubgeezer estimated that at this moment, the most "humanly possible" on the hub is 100lbs or so... it wouldn't take the best hubber in the world to do it, just a guy with a worldclass hub strength (not necesarily top guy), who also happens to be very light. A 130 pounder who can do 70-75 on the hub each hand *should* be able to do it.... does this truly sound so impossible? .. I mean, in that old thread many members reported having done 65+ in a PLATE (which I bet equals over 70 in a hub) ... so, 70 in the hub is achievable, it's not like a #4 status when comparing feats... now, the question is: do you really have to be a super big guy to develop strong hub strength? If there was a 130-pounder closing the #3, I bet there could be some hubbing 70+ for sure, if they trained for it.