New #4 Vs Old #4

[lloyd80s]

There's a lot of talk about the #4 on the gripboard at the moment. All these posts about people trying a new #4 cert made me think about the 5 offical #4 closers.

If we gave a new gr8 #4 to Mugnus, Tommy, Kinney, Holle or morton, how would they do? Does anyone know if any of thses guys have tried a new gr8 cert? Taking into consideration that Ironmind have made the whole #4 cert much harder now, you'd still think that the above guys should all stand some kind of chance. It makes you wonder just how tough Ironmind want to make a #4 cert........like it wasn't hard enough already!!

Good luck to the first gr8 #4 cert, you'll not have to buy your own drinks for a while!! Let's just hope we see it sooner rather than NEVER.

[Tim71]

I've always wondered how hard did Magnus have to train for it? As huge as his hands are and as strong as he is I wonder if it was just an afterthought.

Tim

[StalwartSentinel]

There's a lot of talk about the #4 on the gripboard at the moment. All these posts about people trying a new #4 cert made me think about the 5 offical #4 closers.

If we gave a new gr8 #4 to Mugnus, Tommy, Kinney, Holle or morton, how would they do? Does anyone know if any of thses guys have tried a new gr8 cert? Taking into consideration that Ironmind have made the whole #4 cert much harder now, you'd still think that the above guys should all stand some kind of chance. It makes you wonder just how tough Ironmind want to make a #4 cert........like it wasn't hard enough already!!

Good luck to the first gr8 #4 cert, you'll not have to buy your own drinks for a while!! Let's just hope we see it sooner rather than NEVER.

Magnus has closed a new #4 out of the package but it was with a set. 3 fingers only, as his hands are so large. He held it closed for a while and then repeated the feat. I don't know if it was a GR8 #4 or not? IronMind wasn't trying to make the #4 cert harder, they were trying to standardize the cert process in general for both the #3 and the #4. The #4 may now be unattainable because of it.

[ox3782]

Nothing is unattainable!!!

Brendan

[JS27]

I agree with Brendan. Someone will get it someday.

[spahn ranch]

Magnus has closed a new #4 out of the package but it was with a set. 3 fingers only, as his hands are so large. He held it closed for a while and then repeated the feat. I don't know if it was a GR8 #4 or not?

Negative, it was a black spring. About Magnus, he doesn't ge much mention around here as a candidate for closing a GR8#4, new rules; how come? Has he quit working with grippers?

[thearm95]

Nothing is unattainable!!!

Brendan

Even the RBWT?

[gazza]

No disrespect but have any of the above actually closed any 4 new or old by the credit card rule because that would need to be done before attempting a new GR8 4 i would of thought to atleast see were you stack up as supposedly all the older 4s are easier than the new GR8 4s.

[pdfk20]

Nothing is unattainable!!!

Brendan

Even the RBWT?

You never know, how strong people will become in the future, or what we will be capable after a few more generations

[Alawadhi]

I don't think he means it that way. Only anything is through logic. A close of #4 with the new IM rules is not impossible. That's what he mean and I agree.

The reply is to thearm95.

Edited August 5, 2007 by Alawadhi

[CoC#3]

A close of a new #4 with IM rules is possible.

[PowerHouse]

So all the new #4's are harder then the older ones? Has anybody calibrated them?

[Cannon]

There was this recent quote from Magnus on Ironmind's news:

Today [July 5th, 2007], when we asked how his grip strength was doing at the moment, Magnus Samuelsson told IronMind, "I don’t want to brag, but I can close the No. 4 no problem."

Someone should get him a GR8 gripper.

I know Dave (or Greg, I suppose) has a GR8 #4 because they calibrated them. I have never seen a specific report on his performance, however.

I believe it's possible.

Does anyone know Nathan Holle? Does he still train grippers?

[acorn]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

[spahn ranch]

There was this recent quote from Magnus on Ironmind's news:

Today [July 5th, 2007], when we asked how his grip strength was doing at the moment, Magnus Samuelsson told IronMind, "I don’t want to brag, but I can close the No. 4 no problem."

Someone should get him a GR8 gripper.

I'd gamble. I live almost (give or take a march or two) close enough to throw him one. How much would the first new rules closed GR8#4 fetch on eBay anyway?

[maidenfan]

The GR8 I have is tremendously harder than the black spring, double stamp 4 I have. I suppose it'll be done someday, by someone, but its gonna take a Kinney effort to do it (along with some natural talent).

[PowerHouse]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

Since grippers vary and all do you think that you have a hard Gr8 #4 or do you think all the new #4's are harder then the previous ones?

I only ask because there seems like a lot of talk about the new grippers and how much harder just wanted to have proof that there actually are.

[acorn]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

Since grippers vary and all do you think that you have a hard Gr8 #4 or do you think all the new #4's are harder then the previous ones?

I only ask because there seems like a lot of talk about the new grippers and how much harder just wanted to have proof that there actually are.

I think its a hard one compared to others I have tried.

- Aaron

[makey98]

Don't know much about the different springs, stampings, ect, but is only the #4 a Gr8 spring or are the newer #3's, 2.5 also a different spring? When did this start? Thanks.

[spahn ranch]

Don't know much about the different springs, stampings, ect, but is only the #4 a Gr8 spring or are the newer #3's, 2.5 also a different spring? When did this start? Thanks.

The entire line of CoCs, and last year IIRC; It's on IM's site. The GR8 springs are shiny, as were the ones before the black spring years. Here's my GR8#2, not a full week out of the package.

edit: img doesn't show. Here it is: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1105/102094...a73c7a2_b_d.jpg

Edited August 5, 2007 by spahn ranch

[Sybersnott]

The GR8 I have is tremendously harder than the black spring, double stamp 4 I have. I suppose it'll be done someday, by someone, but its gonna take a Kinney effort to do it (along with some natural talent).

I remember when Kinney first closed the #4 - when he officially certed on it. At that time, nobody thought that anyone could do it.

I agree with maidenfan... it'll be done, and when it is - it'll be considered an awesome feat of strength!!!

[gerryg]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

Aaron, any idea what the IM 3.5s are being calibrated at?

[acorn]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

Aaron, any idea what the IM 3.5s are being calibrated at?

I can tell you what mine came out at. Mine was 180# or 3.51 on the scale.

- Aaron

[Teemu I]

I have a Gr8 #4 that came out at 226# or 4.3 on the scale. I havent tested the old double stamp one I acquired recently yet.

- Aaron

Aaron, any idea what the IM 3.5s are being calibrated at?

You didn't ask me, but from what I've seen on the Finnish grip forum (plenty of the guys on the Finnish grip community have had their grippers calibrated), those #3.5s vary from 3,32 up to 3,68 on the CoC-scale. That is from 169 lbs up to 190 lbs.

Matti Heiskanen (kilkkinen on this forum) has calibrated 205 grippers already with the RGC Replica that he made.

Edited August 6, 2007 by Teemu I

[Teemu I]

GR8 spring #4s vary as well, of course (and quite a bit IMO). Easiest #4 calibrated here in Finland was 206,4 lbs / rating= 3,96 (that one is mine and it is a GR8-model) while the hardest was 228,5 lbs / rating= 4,33.

Edited August 6, 2007 by Teemu I