crobb1320 Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 i was curious if anyone else has been bending 1/4" hex,any length,from fastenal. man this stuff is tuff,i am still new to bending,but can kill 7"x1/4" round with no problem,but barely warp the hex at the same length. opinions???? Quote Charles Robbins 5'6"-155 lbs. 7-1/4" hand age 39 --2010 goals: Get back on the Gripboard more often 25 chins in a row Finish 5" g5. 4.5" g5 bend Bastard bend Close #3 C.o.C. 250 vbar 200 thick vbar Hub lift 2 45's+10each. Pinch 5 10's 155 R.T.
vikingsrule92 Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Well, hex is usually really hard at the start but once you get it moving it's very easy to finish. I haven't tried Fastenal hex only FBBC but that's my experience. Usually, to my experience, if you can get the kink you'll be able to finish it. Quote
Tim71 Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Not unusual for as long as you've been bending. It will come shortly don't worry about that. Maybe cheat kink a piece and try to finish it. You'll get it soon. It's a very tough bend for someone who's not been bending a while. It's tougher than a typical 60d nail. Tim Quote
gazza Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Charles have faith bro its only "Time and Pain" Quote "There he goes. One of gods own prototypes. A high powered mutant of some kind never ever considered for mass production.Too weird to live and too rare to die."
Booyah!!! Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 I had the same problem. Just need to hit the harder 60Ds for a bit. Have fun!!!! Quote I Love Bending Steel http://www.youtube.com/user/booyahbender
neilkaz Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Keep working your kink and cheat kink some a bit if that helps. Anyhow, I am big fan of Fastenal stuff as we prefer to cut our own here for training. If buying volume from Fastenal ask for a volume discount. I got 24' each of three shapes of typical 1018 CRS for $28.40 !! Yep... 24' each of round, hex, and square. In comparison for round, Fastenal's price clearly beat Metal's Supermarket. One of these days I will get this stuff off to Eric to calibrate .. neilkaz .. Quote
Autolupus Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 A 1/4"(6.35mm) round has approx. 32mm2(square) area, a hex has approx 35mm2 and has the structural advantage of straight edges! A 1/4" square is approx. 40mm2. Not too au fait with structural science but know that the equilateral triangle is one of the most structurally sound shapes, the hex is made up of six of these, so must also have some bearing. Quote Mike Mackenzie. Luceo non uro.
crobb1320 Posted July 12, 2007 Author Posted July 12, 2007 i have to agree with ya neilkaz,the best prices i have seen.also seems to be the best stuff,all of it seems to be harder to bend than most competitors for some reason. definitely good stuff. autolupus,thanks for that input,very good point about the hex and i am sure that is what makes it so tough. from what i've heard the fastenal hex seems to be stronger than other brands. i have only tried the fastenal stuff so i dont know for a fact if that is true. i will be hitting the hex again tomorrow.,if i get it i will post it. thanks for the comments evreyone. Quote Charles Robbins 5'6"-155 lbs. 7-1/4" hand age 39 --2010 goals: Get back on the Gripboard more often 25 chins in a row Finish 5" g5. 4.5" g5 bend Bastard bend Close #3 C.o.C. 250 vbar 200 thick vbar Hub lift 2 45's+10each. Pinch 5 10's 155 R.T.
bencrush Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Crobb, you might try cutting 10 pieces of the 1/4" hex at 7" length. Then just kink them to increasingly smaller degrees and work on deconstructing the bend that way. So your first workout piece might be kinked to 90 degrees just to see if the crushdown is the killer on it. If you finish that piece easily just kink another piece to 45 degrees and try that. Finish that one too? Then you know it's just a matter of prekinking each piece a bit less until you finally nail it from straight. This has worked well for some truly great benders. Quote
neilkaz Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Crobb, you might try cutting 10 pieces of the 1/4" hex at 7" length. Then just kink them to increasingly smaller degrees and work on deconstructing the bend that way. So your first workout piece might be kinked to 90 degrees just to see if the crushdown is the killer on it. If you finish that piece easily just kink another piece to 45 degrees and try that. Finish that one too? Then you know it's just a matter of prekinking each piece a bit less until you finally nail it from straight. This has worked well for some truly great benders. Great advice from one of the best of the best and one who persevered and made tremendous DO gains via hard work. I'll be doing the same things to try to improve my slowly (but finally improving) DO kink. My prekinker lives upstairs and once he bares down and finishes the crush (currently at 2 3/8") Matt (my 19 year old) will have taken down 1/4" square Fastenal 1018 CRS and in only about 3-4 weeks of bending. I'll have Matt prekink a bunch of stuff for me since I really don't have any easy way to do it for myself. .. neilkaz .. Quote
crobb1320 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Posted July 13, 2007 Crobb, you might try cutting 10 pieces of the 1/4" hex at 7" length. Then just kink them to increasingly smaller degrees and work on deconstructing the bend that way. So your first workout piece might be kinked to 90 degrees just to see if the crushdown is the killer on it. If you finish that piece easily just kink another piece to 45 degrees and try that. Finish that one too? Then you know it's just a matter of prekinking each piece a bit less until you finally nail it from straight. This has worked well for some truly great benders. thank you very much for the advice,i will do that and see how it goes. one question,the hex i have been bending is flat up enstead of point up,i know it matters on square,does it matter on hex as well? thanks again. Quote Charles Robbins 5'6"-155 lbs. 7-1/4" hand age 39 --2010 goals: Get back on the Gripboard more often 25 chins in a row Finish 5" g5. 4.5" g5 bend Bastard bend Close #3 C.o.C. 250 vbar 200 thick vbar Hub lift 2 45's+10each. Pinch 5 10's 155 R.T.
bencrush Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 thank you very much for the advice,i will do that and see how it goes. one question,the hex i have been bending is flat up enstead of point up,i know it matters on square,does it matter on hex as well? thanks again. It probably does matter, but to be honest I was never able to bend it how I "wanted" to bend it. So it might just be one of those things that it's the only way it'll bend when it's hex stock. Quote
bencrush Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Great advice from one of the best of the best and one who persevered and made tremendous DO gains via hard work.I'll be doing the same things to try to improve my slowly (but finally improving) DO kink. My prekinker lives upstairs and once he bares down and finishes the crush (currently at 2 3/8") Matt (my 19 year old) will have taken down 1/4" square Fastenal 1018 CRS and in only about 3-4 weeks of bending. I'll have Matt prekink a bunch of stuff for me since I really don't have any easy way to do it for myself. .. neilkaz .. Thanks Neil! There's got to be a way for you to kink that stock with the help of a cheater bar and a place to anchor one end of the steel. I use my power rack and it's worked very well. I've been able to cheat kink pretty much anything with it and the help of a sturdy cheater bar. Damn nice bend with the 1/4" Fastenal square by the way! Especially in such a short time. He must be one of those freaks that just "got it" with the DO bending. Quote
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