stratavarious_connection Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Hello, I'm wondering if anyone has been successful at pinching 2 45's(regardless of width) with just their index finger and thumb or is anybody getting close to accomplishing this marvelous feat? Thanks ahead of time. Quote
egg_uk Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 sounds pretty hard to me Quote Goals Get Stronger Lift what I haven't lifted Close what I haven't closed
MalachiMcMullen Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) I think it's been done, by who I'm not sure but I think Richard Sorin may have? http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=2970 Edited June 8, 2007 by MalachiMcMullen Quote Zach Coulter Goals #1- The Planche
CoC#3 Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I think it's been done, by who I'm not sure but I think Richard Sorin may have?http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=2970 I think he probably could do it if he worked towards it. Wade Gillingham can't be far off either. Quote real name: Sam Solomi
MalachiMcMullen Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I think he probably could do it if he worked towards it. Wade Gillingham can't be far off either. Totally forgot about Wade, they certainly don't call him the king of pinch for nothing! The second still shot shows him doing a 2 45 pinch FW and it looks like he's using less than 4 fingers, can't tell. http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=3059 Quote Zach Coulter Goals #1- The Planche
stratavarious_connection Posted June 8, 2007 Author Posted June 8, 2007 MalachiMullen, The picture of Sorin pinching a weight is demonstrating strength FAR from the topic of my post. Sorin in the picture is using THREE fingers and the total weight is way less than 90 lbs, using 2 45's with only TWO fingers. COC#3, I really don't believe he could do it. I won't hold my breath.lol Thanks for your posts though. Quote
burkhardmacht Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) Look in Tommy Hesleps gallery - he had done this feat. Edited June 8, 2007 by Burkhard Macht Quote "[...], this is a brutish-looking cast iron globe dumbbell with the short, fat handle that, formost people, ensures that it will never leave the ground. Grab this legend and lift it if You can. [...]" Videos: 2xBlob50: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpkgojFAilI Blob50+3x10kg plates/20kg Hub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1sOP4jf0CQ
Florian Kellersmann Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I think Thommy used Index, middle finger and thumb. I may be wrong. Jim Wylie and I guess Scott Clayton did this feat too. Quote ARMS ARE FOR ARMWRESTLING "Always give your workouts cool names to fire you up!" - Devon Larratt
The Mac Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I think quite a few have done it with two fingers and thumb, no one has done one finger and thumb to the best of my knowledge. As with most of the "could it be done" questions, I'm sure it COULD be done, but there is a long way between that and someone actually doing it. Quote Chris McCarthy
amaury Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Doing it with one finger instead of two fingers should be close from being two times more difficult (index and middle fingers strength are not that different...). Also, two fingers pinch => thumb and other finger are exerting the same strength. Quote
thabull Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 has never been done, will probably never happen... O yeah btw kaz did pinch 3 45's and louis cyr's calf was 28'' Quote
stratavarious_connection Posted June 8, 2007 Author Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks for your post fellas. But, I'm fully aware of the fact that several people have pinch gripped two 45's with three fingers. I'm not concerned with whether or not people believe it is possible.Though, I imagine that a feat of such merit is going to raise the question of possibility. In my mind I have no doubt that it is possible. I was just wondering if it had been done or if someone is getting close to being able to do it. Maybe it won't happen soon(probably?), but as long as humans don't go extinct, it'll happen. Quote
CoC#3 Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 2 wide 45s would be easier. I have found that with single finger pinches i seem to do better on wider implements. Also pinches with thumb and middle only (at least for me) are stronger than those with thumb and index only. I think it is a possibility, but i doubt anyone of the top guys would train for it because there isn't a lot to gain by doing so; i am sure that if a cash prize was offered many many strong guys would develop an interest and the chance of this feat being accomplished would be a lot bigger. Quote real name: Sam Solomi
mobsterone Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I doubt it could be done. Having the strength to pinch 90lbs using 1 finger and thumb of the same hand is possible. However, 2 x 45lbs or similar - no. The problem is that as we know the reason why loose discs are harder than solid block weights of the same weight and dimensions is that they will move over each other. I picked up (Jim has done something with a blob) a block weight of either 35lbs or 40lbs using just the last part of my thumb and the same part of my middle finger. The other fingers were resting on the knuckles across the top of the tubular shaped lump of steel. Even without planing it that way the others acted as a brake stopping the possible rotation. It was about 5-inches across - far wider than 2 x 45's. But a lot easier because it was a single piece of steel. It seems obvious that the feat of pinching 2 x 45's is partly hard because you must do so in a way to stop the discs moving over the surface of each other as much as it is to lift the actual weight. Short of having their finger and thumb pads mashed by a hammer much like in a cartoon I cannot see someone having thumb and finger pads wide enough to be able to oppose each other enough to stop this movement. Again 90lbs yes, 2 x 45's no. Quote Steve Gardener, British 2006/2008/2009/2010 champ, 117.5kg 2HP, Euro 2008 & 2010 champ
David Horne Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I've done 2 x 20k's with two fingers with both my left and right hand. BUT a one finger pinch is another solar system. Doubt it'll be done, unless it's with some very thin 20k (45lb) discs. David Quote
egg_uk Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 i disagree, not from any experience, but from the fact that this sport has come so far in the last ten years, people are doing a lot of things no one even thought was possible, not saying itll happen any time soon, but if people train to do it then it can be done. Everyone has their own opinions, which is nice to see, and this is mine. Quote Goals Get Stronger Lift what I haven't lifted Close what I haven't closed
mobsterone Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 It occurs to me that it will not be a true pinch but one in which an overly long index finger may be curled sideways on for the thumb to oppose. That would mean the other digits assist without touching the plate. The closest in what we call a pinch grip is the kind used by the oldies and mentioned in David's courses when he talked about needle grip pinching. Quote Steve Gardener, British 2006/2008/2009/2010 champ, 117.5kg 2HP, Euro 2008 & 2010 champ
stratavarious_connection Posted June 9, 2007 Author Posted June 9, 2007 It appears that if someone is going to do this, it's going to first require a paradigm shift. It also appears that when it is done it may very well be the most phenomenal pinch grip feat. Thanks again for your posts, everyone. Quote
lifesnotfair Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 It occurs to me that it will not be a true pinch but one in which an overly long index finger may be curled sideways on for the thumb to oppose. That would mean the other digits assist without touching the plate. The closest in what we call a pinch grip is the kind used by the oldies and mentioned in David's courses when he talked about needle grip pinching. I was just thinking exactly the same, but a very big hand would be required for this! Quote
OldGuy Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) I am in awe of anyone being able to pinch 2 x 20kg, 45lbs with all their fingers and thumb! I never did more than 2 x 35lbs. I am much stronger at wide pinch though, and found blobs easier to lift across the face than the width, and 5 x 10lbs was easy. Edited June 9, 2007 by OldGuy Quote Not afraid to ruffle feathers!
CoC#3 Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I am in awe of anyone being able to pinch 2 x 20kg, 45lbs with all their fingers and thumb! I never did more than 2 x 35lbs. I am much stronger at wide pinch though, and found blobs easier to lift across the face than the width, and 5 x 10lbs was easy. Same here. My narrow pinching has always lagged. Sometimes 3 10kg is easier than 2 15kg for me lol. Did you ever try 6 10s? Quote real name: Sam Solomi
ObsceneJester Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I was just messing around with 2 25's and it felt as if the weight would of pulled my finger out of socket.. I just doubt it can be done, then again.. Quote Name: Rob H
MalachiMcMullen Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 I was just messing around with 2 25's and it felt as if the weight would of pulled my finger out of socket..I just doubt it can be done, then again.. Exactly, always hard to believe especially when the strong guys are skeptical but then again wasn't the MDB talked about in such a way a few years ago? Or the KOASB? It'll happen just a matter of time though I'm sure the first to do it would have 8.5"+ hands Quote Zach Coulter Goals #1- The Planche
viper Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 the answer to all these threads is yes it can, an will be done 3 20kg will happen, 4 15kg will happen, 10 5kg will happen> all the records of today will be nothing compared to 100 years from now - for these plate pinch feats all ya need to find is some freakish 400lb 7ft farmer with 10in hands, get him training his grip seriously an then he'll pinch the little 20kg plates in each hand an walk to the other side of the farm... Quote http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=savvy22
ObsceneJester Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 the answer to all these threads is yes it can, an will be done3 20kg will happen, 4 15kg will happen, 10 5kg will happen> all the records of today will be nothing compared to 100 years from now - for these plate pinch feats all ya need to find is some freakish 400lb 7ft farmer with 10in hands, get him training his grip seriously an then he'll pinch the little 20kg plates in each hand an walk to the other side of the farm... As ambitious as this sounds, that's like saying well in 1000 years that people will be able to Raw lift a 3000 lb deadlift. Or that the record for bench which is over a 1000 pounds will be warm ups. Unless some genetic scientists find a way to manipulate the human body, I very much doubt it will happen. I think it could be possible with 2 45's but the same time you can't say that all records will be broken unless science or God comes into play and give human an above average chance and I very much doubt that either would do it Quote Name: Rob H
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