Reverse Bending Technique

[wscorpion]

The very first nails i've bent, i started with a reverse technique where my arms are very close to my chest.

For a long time i felt this was a terrible technique so i started bending DO instead.

But after reading up on cert rules for the Red, and other cert rules as well, i'm really wondering whether this technique is OK to use or that you should really hold your hands far away from your body.

If anyone could shed a light on it it would be great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZM31b1H2hE

Thanks in advance.

- Mark

EDIT: The video was made on request of a couple of non-benders, so that's why i use the text "bare handed" since you only use your hands and a small towel, of course most of the people here will feel bare handed is really BARE handed, without wrapping, so please don't comment on that

Edited May 23, 2007 by White Scorpion

[nickr104]

Would probably have to hold your hands away from the body.

[JoeGrip]

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=5393

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=5689

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=39...verse&hl=en

[wscorpion]

Would probably have to hold your hands away from the body.

that's what i think as well, but i want to be sure

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=5393

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=5689

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=39...verse&hl=en

I know the common technique, but where does it say it should be like that? That's what i'm wondering

what are the rules?

- hold your hands away from your body? - how much ?

- keep one arm straight?

Of course it should not be braced, but holding your hands close to your chest when bending DO is normal, who decided (and why) that reverse bending should be so far away from your body? Both other techniques are closer to your body.

If you look through the IM cert rules, nothing states that this isn't allowed:

Rules for Bending a Red Nailâ„¢:

There are several recognized methods for legitimately bending an IronMind Red Nail:

* hands at waist level, bending the nail downward into a U

* hands at chest level, bending the nail downward into a U

* hands at head or chest level, bending the nail upward into a U

Other variations of these are acceptable, so long as:

1. Only your hands are touching and bending the nail.

2. You are not pushing the nail against any other body part or other object.

3. You are not using any other materials or devices, except for a pair of IronMind's Hand Pads, which can be folded to pad the palms or simply wrapped around the entire nail.

4. The bend is completed within 1 minute.

5. You are bending an authentic IronMind Red Nailâ„¢ that has not been modified in any way.

6. You bend the nail into a U shape.

Edited May 23, 2007 by White Scorpion

[JoeGrip]

I was just showing you the ways Ive seen it/ the right way to do it.

If what your saying is true then I should be able to hold one hand with the bar in it against my thigh and then push the other end into it. What you did with holding it into your chest is just a weird braced bend, not reverse, I guess you can claim it as your new Braced Reverse bending technique if you want to.

[wscorpion]

I was just showing you the ways Ive seen it/ the right way to do it.

If what your saying is true then I should be able to hold one hand with the bar in it against my thigh and then push the other end into it. What you did with holding it into your chest is just a weird braced bend, not reverse, I guess you can claim it as your new Braced Reverse bending technique if you want to.

What i did was holding it very close to my chest, reason for this is that you can apply more pressure when your hands are close to your body.

Of course holding it to your thigh with the idea to let the thigh assist in keeping your hand in place would be called bracing, the same goes for your chest. But, i wasn't doing this to use my chest as a brace, but merely because this felt like the most natural way to apply as much force as i could. If i would have to hold my hands 2-3 cm's away from my chest in the same manner, then i would still be able to apply as much force to it, simply because it feels natural. Reversing with your hands far away from your body doesn't.

Like i said before, i'm just wondering, especially since some people feel DO gives you an extra leverage advantage, what other techniques would be powerful yet allowed.

At least there is a big difference in strength with the position of your hands. If i reverse like the common technique, it's already hard to bend a 1/4 6" CRS, if i reverse using this technique (not actually touching my chest), i can fairly easily bend a 5/16 6" HRS which is much stronger of course.

In DO i can do both fairly easily, but as stated in many other posts, DO-ers are called folders by some.

Wouldn't it be great to have a technique which is allowed, can't be called folding or extra leverage advantage, and with which you can apply more force then with the current common ones?

I would like to see some of the great names and list holders respond to this thread, because even though the technique is less common, i can't see a reason why it wouldn't be allowed

[David Horne]

Rules

http://www.davidhorne-gripmaster.com/rever...ylebending.html

[JoeGrip]

I was just showing you the ways Ive seen it/ the right way to do it.

If what your saying is true then I should be able to hold one hand with the bar in it against my thigh and then push the other end into it. What you did with holding it into your chest is just a weird braced bend, not reverse, I guess you can claim it as your new Braced Reverse bending technique if you want to.

What i did was holding it very close to my chest, reason for this is that you can apply more pressure when your hands are close to your body.

Of course holding it to your thigh with the idea to let the thigh assist in keeping your hand in place would be called bracing, the same goes for your chest. But, i wasn't doing this to use my chest as a brace, but merely because this felt like the most natural way to apply as much force as i could. If i would have to hold my hands 2-3 cm's away from my chest in the same manner, then i would still be able to apply as much force to it, simply because it feels natural. Reversing with your hands far away from your body doesn't.

Like i said before, i'm just wondering, especially since some people feel DO gives you an extra leverage advantage, what other techniques would be powerful yet allowed.

At least there is a big difference in strength with the position of your hands. If i reverse like the common technique, it's already hard to bend a 1/4 6" CRS, if i reverse using this technique (not actually touching my chest), i can fairly easily bend a 5/16 6" HRS which is much stronger of course.

In DO i can do both fairly easily, but as stated in many other posts, DO-ers are called folders by some.

Wouldn't it be great to have a technique which is allowed, can't be called folding or extra leverage advantage, and with which you can apply more force then with the current common ones?

I would like to see some of the great names and list holders respond to this thread, because even though the technique is less common, i can't see a reason why it wouldn't be allowed

[wscorpion]

Rules

http://www.davidhorne-gripmaster.com/rever...ylebending.html

Thank you very much

Still wondering why IM is so unclear in their rules then.... O well, i'll just stick to DO for now with occasional Reversing according to your rules

[Booyah!!!]

Hi White Scorpion, I also agree with David on the Rules for Reverse Bends. The bend you are doing is The Dan Praydis Bend and takes a lot of strength to perform well. Check this out.

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=2387

[wscorpion]

Hi White Scorpion, I also agree with David on the Rules for Reverse Bends. The bend you are doing is The Dan Praydis Bend and takes a lot of strength to perform well. Check this out.

http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?automod...si&img=2387

Lol, nice to see it actually is an existing style