Double Overhand Static Holds - Whats The World Record?

[viper]

talking of the absolute most weight anyones picked up from a rack lockout position with a double overhand grip on a normal size bar (not a hook grip) - searched for a while but cant find actual numbers, so what weights do you use? an whats the most anyones done? ive only done it a couple of times an dont really know what to aim for

yesterday i did 5 seconds upto 240kg, then 4 seconds for 260kg, an 2 seconds upto 275kg

[smitty]

All I know of are the two pics I've seen with no straps:

Steve Gardner doing a massive rack pull

Richard Sorin doing a massive rack pull

[acorn]

I think Shrug, might have done a pretty huge DO rackpull if I remember right.

- Aaron

[climber511]

Double Overhand - no hook - 30mm bar - short range of motion rack pull - Big Steve did 800# and then had to go reverse to do more - that's the biggest I have seen personally. I did either 500 or 550 before I had to start hooking.

[MalachiMcMullen]

Ha, yeah well I can do 220kg on a rack dead from the knee cap! I think there is a picture on here of Sorin or someone holding onto 1400+lbs in a rack, and video of another guy shrugging 875ish.

[viper]

thanks guys..is 1400lbs+ double overhand with no hook? same for the 875? i certainly dont doubt steve 800lbs for a second, but not sure of them others (cant remember who sorin is??) without video

[climber511]

thanks guys..is 1400lbs+ double overhand with no hook? same for the 875? i certainly dont doubt steve 800lbs for a second, but not sure of them others (cant remember who sorin is??) without video

I have seen the picture of Sorin's rack pull in the past but cannot answer if he hooked on them or not and I can't remember the exact weight either - darn memory anyway. I'm sure someone here can answer this though. I believe I've seen a picture of Steve Weiner as well with a big rack pull. I can believe Gardner also but can't remember the picture Smitty is referring to.

[viper]

done a search on these things an it seems sorin held 1300lbs or so without straps, but it was mixed grip not DO - for some reason i remember 1326lbs as a mixed grip world record, maybe that is this?

wade said hes pulled 300kg from the Floor DO, an seems steve may have held the most DO with the lift mentioned above, but it was actually 360kg/791lbs

edit - ah no, wade said he pulled 272.5kg from the floor DO, but thinks 300kg is possible

Edited April 11, 2007 by viper

[climber511]

Page 4 of the Living Strong section of Sorinex website shows Richard doing 1331# with a Reverse grip.

[CoC#3]

I have done 300kg in the gym for 2-3 second holds.

Big Steve's lift is the biggest lift (i think it was around 340kg) that i have heard of.

[mobsterone]

When I do the rack pulls I mix grip back and forth between double overhand and conventional (but alternating left hand forward and right hand forward) all the way to 7 plates a side or so (ie: about 300-kilos). After that I don't feel safe doing double over hand but will still alternate grip to 9 plates. At my heaviest weight pulled it's left hand knuckles forward and right hand palm forward as this is the most natural for me.

As others have said Richard has hit 1331 and I think one or two of the bigger powerlifters back in the 80's and 90's have done more (it is out of fashion as a powerlifters lift at the mo). I think David Horne has down more than me (1200 seems to ring a bell) and of course many of the IAWA / USAWA have done a shed load in the hip and thigh lift. The hands, regardless of which way they face, must not be locked against the body in anyway or it becomes a hip and thigh lift. There is a photo on the prowriststraps.com website of me pulling 1035lbs here: http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/c_Steve_gardener_ezr.jpg

[viper]

I have done 300kg in the gym for 2-3 second holds.

Big Steve's lift is the biggest lift (i think it was around 340kg) that i have heard of.

just read an it was 360kg (forgot you were there climber), an it seems that is the record

good work hitting the 300 mark sam! i think ill need to find a stronger bar before doing more weight, bar at total fitness was like a banana with just 275

[mobsterone]

Standard (cheap) o' bars are crap above 320-kilos and the next is 450. We have a thicker 700-kilo rated bar and the thicker bars suit my hands. I had one made by Pullums and it's 30mm and over long which will hold 12-13 plates an end easily.

[viper]

When I do the rack pulls I mix grip back and forth between double overhand and conventional (but alternating left hand forward and right hand forward) all the way to 7 plates a side or so (ie: about 300-kilos). After that I don't feel safe doing double over hand but will still alternate grip to 9 plates. At my heaviest weight pulled it's left hand knuckles forward and right hand palm forward as this is the most natural for me.

As others have said Richard has hit 1331 and I think one or two of the bigger powerlifters back in the 80's and 90's have done more (it is out of fashion as a powerlifters lift at the mo). I think David Horne has down more than me (1200 seems to ring a bell) and of course many of the IAWA / USAWA have done a shed load in the hip and thigh lift. The hands, regardless of which way they face, must not be locked against the body in anyway or it becomes a hip and thigh lift. There is a photo on the prowriststraps.com website of me pulling 1035lbs here: http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/c_Steve_gardener_ezr.jpg

nice pic - im not sure what exactly your saying about the max weight used though? are you saying you alternate DO an mixed upto 380kg so you've held 380 DO? or are you saying you go upto 300kg an thats the most you've done? or is 360kg the most you've done?

edit - when i say most done i mean with DO no hook

Edited April 11, 2007 by viper

[Wes]

I've done 500 and some change but it was all the plates I had. Wasn't too hard so I don't really know what my max is

[mobsterone]

When I do the rack pulls I mix grip back and forth between double overhand and conventional (but alternating left hand forward and right hand forward) all the way to 7 plates a side or so (ie: about 300-kilos). After that I don't feel safe doing double over hand but will still alternate grip to 9 plates. At my heaviest weight pulled it's left hand knuckles forward and right hand palm forward as this is the most natural for me.

As others have said Richard has hit 1331 and I think one or two of the bigger powerlifters back in the 80's and 90's have done more (it is out of fashion as a powerlifters lift at the mo). I think David Horne has down more than me (1200 seems to ring a bell) and of course many of the IAWA / USAWA have done a shed load in the hip and thigh lift. The hands, regardless of which way they face, must not be locked against the body in anyway or it becomes a hip and thigh lift. There is a photo on the prowriststraps.com website of me pulling 1035lbs here: http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/c_Steve_gardener_ezr.jpg

nice pic - im not sure what exactly your saying about the max weight used though? are you saying you alternate DO an mixed upto 380kg so you've held 380 DO? or are you saying you go upto 300kg an thats the most you've done? or is 360kg the most you've done?

edit - when i say most done i mean with DO no hook

I say, as above, that I use varitations of grip INCLUDING DO to 300-kilos. I have no idea if more is possible as the purpose of my lifts in this manner was always to tire the hands an strengthen myself for one hand lifting. I'd never hook anything like that weight - too damn painful.

Edited April 11, 2007 by mobsterone

[viper]

When I do the rack pulls I mix grip back and forth between double overhand and conventional (but alternating left hand forward and right hand forward) all the way to 7 plates a side or so (ie: about 300-kilos). After that I don't feel safe doing double over hand but will still alternate grip to 9 plates. At my heaviest weight pulled it's left hand knuckles forward and right hand palm forward as this is the most natural for me.

As others have said Richard has hit 1331 and I think one or two of the bigger powerlifters back in the 80's and 90's have done more (it is out of fashion as a powerlifters lift at the mo). I think David Horne has down more than me (1200 seems to ring a bell) and of course many of the IAWA / USAWA have done a shed load in the hip and thigh lift. The hands, regardless of which way they face, must not be locked against the body in anyway or it becomes a hip and thigh lift. There is a photo on the prowriststraps.com website of me pulling 1035lbs here: http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/c_Steve_gardener_ezr.jpg

nice pic - im not sure what exactly your saying about the max weight used though? are you saying you alternate DO an mixed upto 380kg so you've held 380 DO? or are you saying you go upto 300kg an thats the most you've done? or is 360kg the most you've done?

edit - when i say most done i mean with DO no hook

I say, as above, that I use varitations of grip INCLUDING DO to 300-kilos. I have no idea if more is possible as the purpose of my lifts in this manner was always to tire the hands an strengthen myself for one hand lifting. I'd never hook anything like that weight - too damn painful.

ok thanks a lot for clearing it up, just wasn't 100% on your post, especially with all the numbers ive read

[CoC#3]

Standard (cheap) o' bars are crap above 320-kilos and the next is 450. We have a thicker 700-kilo rated bar and the thicker bars suit my hands. I had one made by Pullums and it's 30mm and over long which will hold 12-13 plates an end easily.

The ones i used are 450 test.

Good lift there btw Steve!

[1stCoC]

The 1331 was done on a brand new Ivanko power bar and the weights weighed afterward as well. I did not use a hook grip. My best lockouts on a 2" smooth bar (t Randy Strossens request)was 505 on a double overhand,and 1012 on a reversed grip. My best on a 2" bar reversed grip two fingers(no thumb) full deadlift is 530. With the same grip on an olympic bar in a lockout is 675. R Sorin

[Chrisx9118]

Double overhand rack lockouts can sometimes be deceiving, if you can pull it from the floor DO then you definately have the right to say you can hold on to it.

And no i dont believe 1000lbs Double overhand no hook is possible.

[mobsterone]

Double overhand rack lockouts can sometimes be deceiving, if you can pull it from the floor DO then you definately have the right to say you can hold on to it.

And no i dont believe 1000lbs Double overhand no hook is possible.

They aren't decieving in this context as no one thinks they can pull the weights we've discussed from the floor nor was the purpose of the rack pulls to increase our from the floor strength.

[viper]

Double overhand rack lockouts can sometimes be deceiving, if you can pull it from the floor DO then you definately have the right to say you can hold on to it.

And no i dont believe 1000lbs Double overhand no hook is possible.

They aren't decieving in this context as no one thinks they can pull the weights we've discussed from the floor nor was the purpose of the rack pulls to increase our from the floor strength.

exacty, this is not deadlift training, its grip training - if you can hold on to a weight you can hold onto it, it has nothig to do with what your pull is

btw, i got hold of clay edgin as i know his static strength is very good (made 430lb farmers look EASY) >this is a direct quote "I think 300kg for a double overhand hold (no hook grip) is phenominal and I would be hard pressed to believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes" i personally think he could surprise himself an do more than 300kg as he said he hasn't done it in while but maybe not donno, seems 1000lbs would be massive amount though

[CoC#3]

Clay is a beast that's for sure.

1000 is possible double overhand IMHO. I reckon Goerner could have done it at least for a 2'' lockout. As far as modern day athletes go i'd put Chris James as a candidate for getting pretty close.

[mbcx6pmw]

There was a picture of Brad Gillingham on Ironmind the other day deadlifting 375kg DO. Wow!

http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/morenews.php?id=1960#1960

[viper]

Clay is a beast that's for sure.

1000 is possible double overhand IMHO. I reckon Goerner could have done it at least for a 2'' lockout. As far as modern day athletes go i'd put Chris James as a candidate for getting pretty close.

im sure reaching 1000lbs is just as possible as typing this is, only it's something that no doubt takes a lot of hard work and dedication

whos chris james?

ns - its a big deadlift but it was done with a hook grip