How Much Easier Is It?

[gettingstronger]

How much easier is it to close a gripper when you hold the spring?

I have a hard time closing my #2 unaided, but I closed my 2.5 the 3rd time I tried it while holding the spring and barely missed(1-2mm) a 2nd rep.

Anyone have an estimate?

[CoC#3]

How much easier is it to close a gripper when you hold the spring?

I have a hard time closing my #2 unaided, but I closed my 2.5 the 3rd time I tried it while holding the spring and barely missed(1-2mm) a 2nd rep.

Anyone have an estimate?

A lot easier! I could get 8 reps on a #3 like this before i could even close it for a single.

[apttdwler]

Interesting, I've never tried it, but will......

[Matt Brouse]

A lot easier! I could get 8 reps on a #3 like this before i could even close it for a single.

Sweet God in heaven?!?!?!? Maybe I never gave these a full shot...?

[Wes]

I don't a lot out of it. I can tns an elite if I hold the spring, but I'm about a 1/4 off regularly if that's any comparison. So it helps, but not an insane amount

Edited December 20, 2006 by Wes

[CoC#3]

Wes it really helps with TNS. I can TNS my #3 like this easily, while it always seems to slip out of the sweet spot at around 1/4'' or therabouts when i try it normally. Spring holds should be used in moderation, though, if you keep doing it you will get weaker at the close because you won't be used to the gripper slipping around (bracing aka holding the spring helps by stoppoing the gripper from slipping out of the sweet spot) - this also explains why it helps a TNS so much.

A good way of incorporating spring holds into training is to close a gripper slightly harder than you can normally using a spring hold and then let go of the spring and try to hold it shut or as close to shut as possible (kind of like doing a neg but with a steady close rather than a forced close). I did this with my elite and held it shut. It is a very good training tool if used correctly.

Edited December 20, 2006 by CoC#3

[porkchop]

A good way of incorporating spring holds into training is to close a gripper slightly harder than you can normally using a spring hold and then let go of the spring and try to hold it shut or as close to shut as possible (kind of like doing a neg but with a steady close rather than a forced close). I did this with my elite and held it shut. It is a very good training tool if used correctly.

Interesting concept. I may have to try that next go 'round when training grippers.

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[Sybersnott]

If you use your other hand to hold the spring during a TNS close, then it is NO LONGER a TNS close!!

TNS means that you pick it up with your gripper hand AND YOUR OTHER HAND NEVER TOUCHES THE GRIPPER OR ANYTHING ELSE!!! Thought that was clear, but...

[Number Ten Ox]

I bet they meant they pick it up like they will do a TNS but before they crush and the gripper slips they put a hand on the spring. uess it should be called a "braced full range" close?

Edited December 20, 2006 by Number Ten Ox

[CoC#3]

Sybersnott, yeah my terminolgy was wrong i admit that. Ok new term, 'BNS' - braced no set. It is worth pointing out that when doing a 'BNS' you should only start bracing at around parallel (stopping it from slipping up the hand or out of the sweet spot). So i am still doing the whole sweep unassisted. Doing these sorts of closes helped my TNS strength by bringing up the sweep. Just a thought, maybe it could help some people who have weak sweeps.