Timmy Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Can anyone give me tips on what to do: I can't close my #4 in one hand with the choker. I have easily close my #3 with 2 fingers in the choker, but this #4 is just mammoth from parallel position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsceneJester Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Can anyone give me tips on what to do: I can't close my #4 in one hand with the choker. I have easily close my #3 with 2 fingers in the choker, but this #4 is just mammoth from parallel position. Tried doing forced closes for negatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenbeat Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Can anyone give me tips on what to do: I can't close my #4 in one hand with the choker. I have easily close my #3 with 2 fingers in the choker, but this #4 is just mammoth from parallel position. Stop being a nancy and get stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 Can anyone give me tips on what to do: I can't close my #4 in one hand with the choker. I have easily close my #3 with 2 fingers in the choker, but this #4 is just mammoth from parallel position. Tried doing forced closes for negatives? Dude, my regimme consists of Forced negs variations with the #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Nothing to contribute, but I was thinking a block & tackle + heavy duty winch might help - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisx9118 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Timmy - Is your choker adjustable? - If not i would suggest putting your #4 in a hose clamp so you can set it at a millimeter or so and try to close it from there, then open it up a bit and so on. If not - then i would suggest doing negatives or assisted reps. Good luck man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 Nothing to contribute, but I was thinking a block & tackle + heavy duty winch might help - Aaron No, I am not going to tamper with the spring. Timmy - Is your choker adjustable? - If not i would suggest putting your #4 in a hose clamp so you can set it at a millimeter or so and try to close it from there, then open it up a bit and so on. If not - then i would suggest doing negatives or assisted reps. Good luck man I've tried that, at the 1/4" mark the thing just won't move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Sounds like you've got an easy #3 and/or hard #4. If you're shutting a #3 with two fingers, in a choker, at parallel, you should definetly be able to shut a #4 in a choker at 1/4". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Get stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Sounds like you've got an easy #3 and/or hard #4. If you're shutting a #3 with two fingers, in a choker, at parallel, you should definetly be able to shut a #4 in a choker at 1/4". Agreed. I can't close a #3 with 2 fingers but I can close a #4 clamped from 1/4". pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Sounds like you've got an easy #3 and/or hard #4. If you're shutting a #3 with two fingers, in a choker, at parallel, you should definetly be able to shut a #4 in a choker at 1/4". I don't know, I wouldn't mind to send my grippers to someone for a rating.....but I have 2 finger no setted my seasoned HG300, so I could have a hard #4. Anyway, my #4 is a 2004 model, aren't the 2004 model grippers harder then before? Edited August 26, 2006 by Timmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Grippers vary, the year doesn't matter. What's the spread on your #4 vs. your #3, mounting on your #4 vs. #3, can you see daylight between the coils on the #3 vs the #4? Just look at some objective factors and see if you can come up with anything. Of course the obvious answer is just to get stronger, but I assume you're asking because you don't want to waste time trying to close a paperweight of a #4. Edited August 26, 2006 by jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Grippers vary, the year doesn't matter. What's the spread on your #4 vs. your #3, mounting on your #4 vs. #3, can you see daylight between the coils on the #3 vs the #4? Just look at some objective factors and see if you can come up with anything. Of course the obvious answer is just to get stronger, but I assume you're asking because you don't want to waste time trying to close a paperweight of a #4. Ok, #4( 2004): 2 13/16" spread; Flush mounting; I can slightly see light through the top, but not the bottom. #3( 2005 GR8): 2 15/16" spread; Flush mounting; the top of the spring is too dirty to inspect. Edited August 26, 2006 by Timmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Year has nothing to do with gripper strength. My old 2000-2001 #4 is harder than anything I own other than my WC and it's colse to that. When you get down to the 1/4" range in a choker it is mainly handle flex. The gripper won't even break free from the choker. Sounds like you have an easier #3, I don't know because I haven't squeezed it, but if you can close a #3 and no set an HG300 with 2 fingers a 4 from a choker at 1/4" should be cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 (edited) Year has nothing to do with gripper strength. My old 2000-2001 #4 is harder than anything I own other than my WC and it's colse to that. When you get down to the 1/4" range in a choker it is mainly handle flex. The gripper won't even break free from the choker. Sounds like you have an easier #3, I don't know because I haven't squeezed it, but if you can close a #3 and no set an HG300 with 2 fingers a 4 from a choker at 1/4" should be cake. Actually, when I set it to 1/2" in a choker, the thing still won't budge. I will admit that my HG300 has been seasoned - very seasoned! I would love to lend my #4, or #3, to someone for a rating, but then I wouldn't have a gripper to work with. Edited August 27, 2006 by Timmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 I might be receiving a BB Elite next week. If I can nail the sucker down to a hair distance, then I can conclude that my #4 is above normal, but if I struggle to get it past parallel, then my #3 is on the easy side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Closing a BBE will not put you even ball park on a good #4, or even the weaker ones really. I can close my BBE's right now and I am not even close to my weak #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsceneJester Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Closing a BBE will not put you even ball park on a good #4, or even the weaker ones really. I can close my BBE's right now and I am not even close to my weak #4. What are you doing right this second then with grippers? Are you focusing on something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 With school and football going full swing I am doing one set of no set stuff with my #2's to failure. I have one that is hard and one that is not hard, so I will alternate between the two. I don't have the time or motivation to train right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Closing a BBE will not put you even ball park on a good #4, or even the weaker ones really. I can close my BBE's right now and I am not even close to my weak #4. didn't you close the #4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat 74 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I have before, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripmaniac Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I might be receiving a BB Elite next week. If I can nail the sucker down to a hair distance, then I can conclude that my #4 is above normal, but if I struggle to get it past parallel, then my #3 is on the easy side. I suspect you'll have to season that BBE first before you can "almost" close it . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 I might be receiving a BB Elite next week. If I can nail the sucker down to a hair distance, then I can conclude that my #4 is above normal, but if I struggle to get it past parallel, then my #3 is on the easy side. I suspect you'll have to season that BBE first before you can "almost" close it . . . . Well, we will just have to wait and see, won't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 Got it wrong, I can only close the #3 in in choke with 3 fingers. I must of mistaken it for the HG300 in the choker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoC#3 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 i have to bump this thread, i seem to have the exact same problem as you and many other people... my #4 won't budge! i put my #4 in a choker the other day at parallel. It moved about 1mm, that is it. Even by holding the spring i couldn't move it any further. From the same position in the choker i can do 15 reps on the #3. #4s are extremely hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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