Brad Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I am still doing a great deal of work on the rafters. I am currently trying to put a routine together. I have planned for this for several years but finally have the strength and skill to put together some combinations. I am working towards the following routine: Jump from floor to catch a single rafter with a palms away grip, pull up into a front lever, release left hand and turn body clockwise and catch the rafter 16" away with left hand while still holding front lever, release left hand and catch the rafter 32" away with left hand while still holding the front lever, front swing, back swing, front swing and then release with both hands and catch the same rafters, take a step forward with right hand followed by a step forward with the left hand, switch right hand from rafter 32" away from my left hand to the rafter 16" away from my left hand, switch left hand to rafter 32" away from the right hand. back flip dismount. I have no idea how long it will take to accomplish this but I think that I will. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivarboneless Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) My goodness....that's crazy. I believe I owe you some :bow I never thought of making a rafter routine, that adds a whole new level of motivation to my training. once you can do it, and if you have time, please make a video! The rafter flyaway would be one of the craziest things I have ever seen in my entire life. I think I forgot a couple :bow Edited August 22, 2006 by Ivarboneless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan McMillan Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thanks for updating us on your plan Brad!!!! Talk about raising the bar!!!!!! BTW I wish all books in the strength field were as well written as yours Jon@han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 HA HA! You sound like a obsessed climber giving Beta (sequence of moves) on a hard boulder problem. So when you do the first release with your left hand and turn clockwise your left hand remains palm away? Never tried that... When you release with both hands you must flip your right around so you are palms facing, right? The dismount is incomprehensible to me being a climber not a gymnast (when I dismount I just try not to break/puncture anything). Have you done this crazy move? You should find a stairwell with exposed 2x4's underneath if you haven't yet. It's great fun to climb the stairs rafter stylee. Have you ever tried pinching 4x4's? I know you did a one arm standing on bungees? Anything ever progress from there? Joe rafter protegee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 HA HA! You sound like a obsessed climber giving Beta (sequence of moves) on a hard boulder problem. So when you do the first release with your left hand and turn clockwise your left hand remains palm away? Never tried that... When you release with both hands you must flip your right around so you are palms facing, right? The dismount is incomprehensible to me being a climber not a gymnast (when I dismount I just try not to break/puncture anything). Have you done this crazy move? You should find a stairwell with exposed 2x4's underneath if you haven't yet. It's great fun to climb the stairs rafter stylee. Have you ever tried pinching 4x4's? I know you did a one arm standing on bungees? Anything ever progress from there? Joe rafter protegee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thanks guys! Joe-when I turn clockwise, I release my left hand and grab the rafter16" away (palms now facing each other). The release move is done with palms facing each other. I have done the back flip and, relatively speaking, it is not hard. I have not done stair climbing rafter style but will eventually make something like that. I have not used 4"x4's but have slid 2"x4"s between my fingers and the rafters. I am not working specifically on the one arm. It is completely a pinch grip issue for me as I can do one arm chins. I figure that I will be able to do one if my pinch grip ever gets to the point that I can one hand pinch my bodyweight and I am very far from that right now. What all are you doing on the rafters? What you said about giving Beta (I have never heard of that) is exactly how I am approaching it. There are an infinite number of moves that could be done on the rafters. Some of them are much more complicated than others. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Cenidoza Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Awesome, Brad... the stuff you're doing is just crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quazimodo Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) oh god, i cant even do the first exercise on a front lever progression, this one wants to do stunts now! Indeed some is deserved Get the video, make it big and well lighted, this stunt will get you groupies for sure. Man im so impressed at the thought im going to go do some front lever work Edited August 22, 2006 by quazimodo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Freaky strong rafter work - keep us posted as you progress towards what to me are some incredible goals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I get it now, I was getting the clockwise counter-clockwise rotation mixed up. It makes me wonder if it's possible to do hand over hand rafter walking. Palms facing away on one, release and jump to the next rafter with one hand palms still facing away. Like climbing a ladder hands only from underneath. I did something similar with friends one rainy day after we got rained out of bouldering. We took shelter in a gazeebo and it turned into a "hey, who can do this?" sort of thing. I started by doing pullups palms facings from wide and narrow. Almost all of the climbers were able to do it on thier first or second try. It was kinda humbling. Next we did palms away on a slightly tilted board (making it a lot easier) Then we jumped from the palms away board 2' up and 3' back to a 4x4 ledge (we could wrap our hands around the top). First we jumped one hand at a time and then did doubles where both hands are released at the same time. Then we did palms away front levers (still from the slightly tilted board, this is way easier than what Brad is doing!), release to a rafter running perpendicular with one hand and then release again with the other hand to try and catch with palms facing (with 16" spacing). No one but myself was able to do this one. It was nice because apart from the tilted "start hold" at the bottom and the 4x4 "finish hold", the rafters were all running up to the top of the gazeebo so to move you had to move up, keeping that nice climbing feel to it. As this is in the premier summer bouldering destination in the northwest (some say anywhere in North America) it sees a lot of strong climbers. So i am sure rafter walking will soon be catching on among bouldering elite! Fun stuff. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Joe, Great stuff! Sounds like you all had a lot of fun! Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Did I mention one of the climbers was a girl? http://woodsfamilyclimbs.com/albums/album9...s_finals_20.jpg A STRONG girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivarboneless Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I took my first rafter steps today!! I took one with each hand (not 2 steps in a row), and got really close to 2 steps in a row. I think I will hit 2 in a row next time. I have no idea how wide the things were, but it was up an incline. Brad you are doing some crazy stuff on the rafters. Keep training so we can see that rafter victorian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor111 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 scary scary scary strong!!! i am working on it though i will get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 I took my first rafter steps today!! I took one with each hand (not 2 steps in a row), and got really close to 2 steps in a row. I think I will hit 2 in a row next time. I have no idea how wide the things were, but it was up an incline. Brad you are doing some crazy stuff on the rafters. Keep training so we can see that rafter victorian! Rafter walking-That is outstanding! I think that the rafter victorian is within reach. I could start with the iron cross, pull to a victorian, lower to a hang and step my hands to rafters 48" apart, than 32" apart and then continue with some traveling, walking or hopping. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Awesome stuff Brad! You are in a class by yourself in my book. Great work man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) Rafter victorian! That awesome I never even considered it, it just seems so hard. The thing with this is, after Brad does a victorian from the rafters he'll want to hold the position and jump 16" to the next set over with both hands at once, then roll it over into a back lever, then let go with one hand and hold... It will happen. edit Brad, HAVE you ever jumped from one set of rafters over to another set with both hands at once? Like going from 16 to 32 except you release with BOTH hands at the same time so you are still at 16 when you finish? I'm trying it tomorrow. Joe Edited August 24, 2006 by Number Ten Ox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Rafter victorian! That awesome I never even considered it, it just seems so hard. The thing with this is, after Brad does a victorian from the rafters he'll want to hold the position and jump 16" to the next set over with both hands at once, then roll it over into a back lever, then let go with one hand and hold... It will happen. edit Brad, HAVE you ever jumped from one set of rafters over to another set with both hands at once? Like going from 16 to 32 except you release with BOTH hands at the same time so you are still at 16 when you finish? I'm trying it tomorrow. Joe Joe, I have done the jump that you talked about. I always think of the next move to try on the rafters after accomplishing a goal but I don't know about the back lever one hand hold. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Ten Ox Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Aww come on! Your body can't go where you mind hasn't been Brad! LOL. You've seen pictures of Gill's one arm front lever right? AND he did a one handed pinch pull up from a warped rafter, so combine the the two throw in a twist of GripBoard craziness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share Posted August 25, 2006 Aww come on! Your body can't go where you mind hasn't been Brad! LOL.You've seen pictures of Gill's one arm front lever right? AND he did a one handed pinch pull up from a warped rafter, so combine the the two throw in a twist of GripBoard craziness... Joe, If I ever get to the point where I can hang from a rafter with one hand, I will definitely pursue the one arm lever. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinchBlocks Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 If you ever get the chance try adding a sloped wood block to the rafter, so instead of grabbing 90 degree rafter, you're grabbing a 110 degree (ie l_/ , in the easiest term.) The fingers go on the sloped side and the more slope to the block, the greater the force applied to the thumb. Simply hanging and using wood attachments of increasing slope has worked wonders. By the way, you're too strong, Brad. -FO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 PinchBlocks, Using sloped wood block attachments is a good idea! Thanks for the compliment! Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdude Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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