Anuwbius Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I didnt want to hijack Ansons thread. He deserves only praise for that lift. Anyway, it looks like a good question came up about tilting a blob towards your finger side to aid in the lift. This is something I would like to hear peoples opinions on and see what goes down. To me (my opinion that is) a lift of a block weight is a lift, as long as you’re using only your hand to get it up. Mr Sorin, who I personally view and look up to as a legend, seemed to feel this was taking away from the Blobs original challenge of being lifted. I guess I would like to know does the tilt negate the lift, like bracing for a bend that is supposed to be unbraced, or is it still a legitimate lift, only done in the first step of the progression of difficulty. Threres no question that not tilting is crazy hard. I feel like not tilting is something elite, as opposed to a standard lift. In this case, Anson asked for his name to not be placed on the Blob lifters list. This was his decision, and a respectable one at that. BUt lets say Anson didnt choose to take himself of the list. Would he be removed anyway, or would he be able to be on the list even with a tilted lift (something I do as well). I'm only using Ansons situation as an example and I dont mean to bring him into this. Only using the situation for context. As for why the tilt helps, drop your hand to your side and make a wide pinch motion with your wrist in a neutral position. The fingers reach far below the thumb, which would account for the tilt when holding a blob in mid air. In order to bring the fingers and thumb to the same reach or level, your have to cock your wrist back (extension). I think this takes away from the pinch strength in that motion, so one would have to be that much stronger to lift a blob in that manner hence it being a progression in difficulty as compared to a tilted lift. WHat do others think about this. I would especially love to hear more of Mr Sorins opinion on this as well as some other Blob dominators. I'm not arguing one side over the other, or trying to pick fights. Just a curious ol gripster who finds this question/topic to be interesting. Quote My Gallery Ethan Wolf, CSCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkdan Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I think it should depend on the hold. Holding it straight up and down in the air seems more like the accomplishment then what angle it leaves the ground. If someone tilts the bolb 45 degrees the entire lift, then I think it would make it easier. Of course, soon we might get into a set of rules of angle of departure, angle of hold, time at angle, distance at angle, etc etc etc. We'll need a CAD program to figure it all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGrip Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 All I know is it makes it easier on hex heads, never touched a blob... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 A tilt definitely makes it easier, but like the point that was mentioned earlier, you could use the tilt to get it off the ground, and then you could gradually straighten it as you hold it to gain strength to be able to pick it up straight. No doubt, the pure way to do it is straight from the ground, but either way you lift it is pretty darn impressive. -Jedd- Quote The GOLD STANDARD Feat in Plate Pinching: 2x45s Pinch Get Your Copy Here: How to Pinch 2x45s Ebook Diesel Crew Store: http://www.dieselcrew.com/store/shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Strange - I can do it straight but not with the tilt - weird ! Quote When people used to ask him how it was he became so incredibly strong, it was always the same, "strengthen your mind, the rest will follow". The Mighty Atom Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Being prepared for any random task is not the same thing as preparing randomly for any task. Greg Everett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I'd like to see some of the guys that claim to do it with no tilt place a penny or something similiar on the finger side edge, where if it was tilted at all it woud come off. I think a lot of the purists would be surprised at how they lift. I agree straight up is much harder but most people tilt it when they first get it off the ground. I think that's just a natural movement for most, I don't think they are trying to take advantage of anything. Anson did tilt it quite a bit but the question is how much is too much? Brad tilted it quite bit in his video but then he straightened it out. Is this acceptable? BTW, I think Brad's pull was freakin' amazing considering his handsize and I'm just curious as to why nobody had any problems with his lift. In case you can't tell, I sure don't. Quote Proud member of the Feat Cheaters Club! Captain of Crush 2003-2011 Josh Dale Wentzville, MO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelbiceps Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Since we can't come up with a simple objective way to tell how much tilt is too much, I think we have to go by the simple version of the rules. Pinch lift it with one hand. Critiquing by amount of tilt seems even sillier and less objective to me than inventing the CCS. If lifting the blob is deemed too easy, make a cert for a heavier blob. But my opinion on the rules aside, I don't like the idea of making anyone feel he needs to recuse himself from the record list. Quote Real name: Stan Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dthor Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 We sometimes forget just how difficult some of these lifts are. There are many who can work on lifting the blob for years and will not come close. It took me around 5 months and I had already did 2 45's. I find that some blobs are easier to lift with a strong tilt and some are not, like the Blob 50 and some newer Yorks. It was very impressive seeing Anson pull up the blob. As far as tilt is concerned, you either pull the weight up or you don't. Good Lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tspinillo Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 We sometimes forget just how difficult some of these lifts are. There are many who can work on lifting the blob for years and will not come close. It took me around 5 months and I had already did 2 45's. I find that some blobs are easier to lift with a strong tilt and some are not, like the Blob 50 and some newer Yorks. It was very impressive seeing Anson pull up the blob. As far as tilt is concerned, you either pull the weight up or you don't. Good Lift. Excellent! Quote Awaiting reprisal. Proud Blob50 parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Dockery Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I don't really see what the fuss is. One hand, no lifting aids, stand all the way up. Heck, if we're arguing tilt...I'll ask Anson, Brad etc. to stand on a box so they have to lift it as far as I do....but that would be silly. Quote Patient consistency will always triumph over fickle enthusiasm. Jesus Christ is not a hobby. Get Farm Strong! Goal: Twist a broomstick in two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Piche Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 My son who wouldn't know cheating on a blob if his life depended on it, has a tendency to tilt on the initial pull from the ground. So, it's probably a natural feel thing IMO. He has to consciously keep his hand straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKERICH Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) I find that while working out with York legacy blobs they tilt towards the side that my 4 fingers are on.i also could straighten it out although i questioned if the tilt was cheating even though they naturally tilted.i looked in the Mastery of Hand Strength and saw that John Brookfield also had them tilted so i concluded that it was a proper lift. 1 side has more of a slope so isnt it jst physics? Edited July 24, 2006 by RICHIEC. Quote Richie Citron "You gotta do what you gotta do" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I find it interesting that we have come so far as to critique the manner of lifting a Blob. When I came on the GripBoard just a few years ago - lifting it in any manner was a very special thing - now we're argueing about the tilt. How much is too much - I don't know or really care I guess - a good friend of mine did his first Blob lift ever - was it "pure"? Perhaps not but like most of us, Anson will do it again and again until all are satisfied - especially himself. The first time we do anything, it's usually not just perfect - no doubt in my mind he'll get better! Quote When people used to ask him how it was he became so incredibly strong, it was always the same, "strengthen your mind, the rest will follow". The Mighty Atom Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul. Being prepared for any random task is not the same thing as preparing randomly for any task. Greg Everett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rying Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think a little tilt is natural and legit. As long as someone isn't tilting the whole thing over and curling it! How about for contests: "The knuckles must be higher than the center of mass of the blob throughout the entire lift." (Oh, and you must descend below parallel when squatting your blob!) Quote "The natural order of things just isn't good enough when what you're after is unnatural. It's not natural to be able to burst a can of beer. It's fun though." --Joe Kinney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Lifting the Blob is a thing to be very proud of regardless of whether it was tilted or not. I use a tilt on a 37.5 York so I am sure I'd have to do the same to get anything heavier off the ground. I am very impressed with a "normal" guy getting the Blob to full deadlift with one hand. Normal means one without extremely big hands. Great lift Anson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tspinillo Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think a little tilt is natural and legit. As long as someone isn't tilting the whole thing over and curling it! Curling it is extremely impressive. Quote Awaiting reprisal. Proud Blob50 parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinia Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 anyone know where i can order blobs from ? preferably a place close to norway . :O Quote Goals! : Dominate the #2.5 and BBSM Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 anyone know where i can order blobs from ? preferably a place close to norway . :O I'd say your best bet would be to order Blobette from PDA instead. Great tool, you don't necessarily need several block weights if you get that. Quote Teemu Ilvesniemi, Finland My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinia Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 ok. thnx teemu Quote Goals! : Dominate the #2.5 and BBSM Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stCoC Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Right now smaller blobs are in production by a major athletic products supplier. I assisted them in getting them getting them "right"! They will be in smaller sizes for now but if demand is there I am sure they will expand the line. I would think they will be released for sale soon at a good price! Quote Richard Sorin, Sorinex Equipment SORINEX.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 IMHO tilt doesn't matter. Lift it or don't lift it. As long as you use only one hand and haven't made any changes to it like by modifying the texture, used a sticky substance on your hands or something like that, a lift is a lift. It still takes one hell of a pinch to break ground on that thing regardless of how you lift it. Great job to ALL of you who have done it! pc Quote Real Name: Gregory Allen 2008 Goals Pinch: Blob 50, 2x45's Crush: MM2, IM #3.5 "There's no limits, just the ones you set for yourself." --Joe Kinney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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