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World Ranking Two Hand Pinch (euro Set Up), Rolling 12 Months


Mikael Siversson

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Current World Euro-pinch-set-up ranking (12 month rolling). Only calibrated weights included. Remarkable to see Chris Rice in the top 10. In total there are 50 competitors for this period. A 200lbs lift is still enough to be in the top 10. Eight of the top 10 are from the USA! Perhaps we could have this pinned.

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.3k LGC XV 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k Euro 2005
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
16.Kalle Lane, Sweden 86.0k Euro 2005
18.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
19.Viktor Sander, Sweden 85.0k Euro 2005
20.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
20.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
20.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
23.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
24.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
24.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
26.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
27.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
28.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
28.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
30.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
31.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
31.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
33.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
34.Burkhard Macht, Germany 73.0k Euro 2005
35.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
36.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
37.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
38.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
38.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
40.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
41.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
41.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
43.David Hurzeler, Switzerland 67.0k Euro 2005
44.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
45.Arne Persson, Sweden 65.0k LGC XV 2006
46.Niels Schabacker, Germany 64.9k MGC 2006
47.Niklas Wennerberg, Sweden 60.0k LGC XIV 2006
48.Marco Bouma, Germany 59.1k MGC 2006
49.Paul Doyle, USA 53.6k SoHGC 2006
50.Christoph Koch, Germany 52.8k MGC 2006

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Oops, I think Marco Bouma is from Holland.

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.3k LGC XV 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k Euro 2005
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
16.Kalle Lane, Sweden 86.0k Euro 2005
18.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
19.Viktor Sander, Sweden 85.0k Euro 2005
20.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
20.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
20.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
23.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
24.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
24.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
26.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
27.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
28.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
28.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
30.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
31.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
31.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
33.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
34.Burkhard Macht, Germany 73.0k Euro 2005
35.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
36.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
37.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
38.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
38.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
40.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
41.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
41.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
43.David Hurzeler, Switzerland 67.0k Euro 2005
44.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
45.Arne Persson, Sweden 65.0k LGC XV 2006
46.Niels Schabacker, Germany 64.9k MGC 2006
47.Niklas Wennerberg, Sweden 60.0k LGC XIV 2006
48.Marco Bouma, Holland 59.1k MGC 2006
49.Paul Doyle, USA 53.6k SoHGC 2006
50.Christoph Koch, Germany 52.8k MGC 2006

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Yes he is...

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Getting better without competing - great stuff! :D

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Mikael,

Once again thanks for all the efforts you put into these strict Top 50s.

A yearly Top 20-50 grip competitors would be great, like tennis, snooker, golf, etc. Maybe from the top 'grand prix' style events.

Just a thought,

David

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Updated with results from MGI 2006. Ryan enters at #19, Jeff at #25, Bob at #30, Brian at #37 and Mark at #48. In total there are 56 male competitors registered for this period. Need Tim's surname so I can add his results as well.

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.3k LGC XV 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k Euro 2005
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
16.Kalle Lane, Sweden 86.0k Euro 2005
18.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
19.Ryan Klein, USA 85.7k MGI 2006
20.Viktor Sander, Sweden 85.0k Euro 2005
21.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
21.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
21.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
24.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
25.Jeff Flynn, USA 81.0k MGI 2006
26.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
26.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
28.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
29.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
30.Bob Lipinski, USA 78.5k MGI 2006
31.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
31.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
33.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
34.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
34.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
36.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
37.Brian Admunsen, USA 73.3k MGI 2006
38.Burkhard Macht, Germany 73.0k Euro 2005
39.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
40.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
41.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
42.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
42.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
44.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
45.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
45.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
47.David Hurzeler, Switzerland 67.0k Euro 2005
48.Mark Riddle, USA 66.6k MGI 2006
49.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
50.Arne Persson, Sweden 65.0k LGC XV 2006

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Tim Bradford. Cool stuff! One of my goals was to make the top lists for the pinch

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Added Tim Bradford at #33

A total of 57 male competitors registered for the period

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.3k LGC XV 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k Euro 2005
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
16.Kalle Lane, Sweden 86.0k Euro 2005
18.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
19.Ryan Klein, USA 85.7k MGI 2006
20.Viktor Sander, Sweden 85.0k Euro 2005
21.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
21.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
21.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
24.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
25.Jeff Flynn, USA 81.0k MGI 2006
26.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
26.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
28.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
29.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
30.Bob Lipinski, USA 78.5k MGI 2006
31.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
31.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
33.Tim Bradford, USA 76.2k MGI 2006
34.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
35.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
35.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
37.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
38.Brian Admunsen, USA 73.3k MGI 2006
39.Burkhard Macht, Germany 73.0k Euro 2005
40.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
41.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
42.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
43.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
43.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
45.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
46.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
46.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
48.David Hurzeler, Switzerland 67.0k Euro 2005
49.Mark Riddle, USA 66.6k MGI 2006
50.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006

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Updated. A total of 53 competitors registered for the period.

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.3k LGC XV 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k LGC XV 2006
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
17.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
18.Ryan Klein, USA 85.7k MGI 2006
19.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
19.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
19.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
22.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
23.Jeff Flynn, USA 81.0k MGI 2006
24.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
24.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
26.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
27.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
28.Bob Lipinski, USA 78.5k MGI 2006
29.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
29.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
31.Tim Bradford, USA 76.2k MGI 2006
32.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
33.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
33.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
35.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
36.Brian Admunsen, USA 73.3k MGI 2006
37.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
38.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
39.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
40.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
40.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
42.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
43.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
43.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
45.Mark Riddle, USA 66.6k MGI 2006
46.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
47.Arne Persson, Sweden 65.0k LGC XV 2006
48.Niels Schabacker, Germany 64.9k MGC 2006
49.Steven Shafley, USA 60.9k MGI 2006
50.Niklas Wennerberg, Sweden 60.0k LGC XV 2006

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Updated. A total of 56 competitors registered for the period.

1. David Horne, England		 107.2k CC 2005
2. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
2. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
4. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.7k Euro 2006
5. Nick McKinless, England 101.8k CC 2005
6. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
7. Steve McGranahan, USA 95.1k CC 2005
8. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
8. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
12.Mikael Siversson, Sweden 88.5k AGC 2006
13.Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
14.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k LGC XV 2006
14.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
16.Johan Albrektsson, Sweden 86.0k LGC XIV 2006
17.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
18.Ryan Klein, USA 85.7k MGI 2006
19.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
19.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
19.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
22.Steve Gardener, England 84.5k CC 2005
23.Martin Ressel, Germany 81.2k Euro 2006
24.Jeff Flynn, USA 81.0k MGI 2006
25.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
25.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
27.Florian Kellersmann, Germany 80.2k Euro 2006
28.Johan Olofsson, Sweden 80.0k LGC XIV 2006
29.Jörgen Holm, Sweden 79.5k Euro 2006
30.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
31.Bob Lipinski, USA 78.5k MGI 2006
32.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
32.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
34.Tim Bradford, USA 76.2k MGI 2006
35.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XIV 2006
36.Jim Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
36.Mark Wylie, England 75.4k CC 2005
38.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
39.Brian Admunsen, USA 73.3k MGI 2006
40.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
41.Richard Scott, England 72.2k CC 2005
42.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
43.Dave Johnson, England 70.4k CC 2005
43.Andrew Christie, England 70.4k CC 2005
45.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
46.Arthur Antonopoulos, Austr. 69.0k AGC 2006
46.Mark Hampton, Australia 69.0k AGC 2006
48.Mark Riddle, USA 66.6k MGI 2006
49.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
50.Marco Bouma, Holland 65.2k Euro 2006

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hey Mikael,

do the pinches have to be at grip contests or can they be on video with a witness to challenge the top 50?

how do u make the euro set up?.is it easier or harder than using 2 45lb plates?

thanks,

burner

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hey Mikael,

do the pinches have to be at grip contests or can they be on video with a witness to challenge the top 50?

how do u make the euro set up?.is it easier or harder than using 2 45lb plates?

thanks,

burner

The pinch results have to be made in authorised competitions (e.g., not in the basement against family members etc.). All weights used have to be calibrated using a certified scale of acceptable resolution. Alternatively the organiser can use certified competition plates (like the Germans did at the 2006 Euro). The lift has to be done according to the rules set up by me, David Horne and the Diesel Crew.

All this is of course to make sure that a nominal 108k actually represents 108k and not 106 or 111 or whatever. My nominal 20k weights for example varies between 19.2-21.3k.

The Euro set up can be purchased from David Horne. Expensive but at least it allows for meaningful comparisons. The Euro set up if fairly similar in difficulty to many 45lbs or 20k plates.

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1. Dave Thorton, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
1. Chad Woodall, USA 103.1k GGC 2006
3. Martin Arildsson, Sweden 102.7k Euro 2006
4. Jedd Johnson, USA 98.6k GGC 2006
5. Jonathan Creason, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
5. Tommy Heslep, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
5. Kevin Perrone, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
5. Chris Rice, USA 89.6k GGC 2006
9. Frank Henritzi, Germany 87.7k MGC 2006
10.Mario Sjögren, Sweden 87.0k LGC XV 2006
10.Theo Burggraff, Holland 87.0k LGC XV 2006
12.Eric Milfeld, USA 85.9k SoHGC 2006
13.Ryan Klein, USA 85.7k MGI 2006
14.Anson Castelvecchi, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
14.Scott George, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
14.Bert Sorin, USA 84.8k GGC 2006
17.Martin Ressel, Germany 81.2k Euro 2006
18.Jeff Flynn, USA 81.0k MGI 2006
19.Jeremy Copley, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
19.Jeremy Haller, USA 80.4k GGC 2006
21.Florian Kellersmann, Germany 80.2k Euro 2006
22.Jörgen Holm, Sweden 79.5k Euro 2006
23.Keith Bormann, USA 79.3k SoHGC 2006
24.Bob Lipinski, USA 78.5k MGI 2006
25.Jason Williams, USA 76.6k SoHGC 2006
25.Thomas Becker, Germany 76.6k MGC 2006
27.Tim Bradford, USA 76.2k MGI 2006
28.Jens Jepsson, Sweden 76.0k LGC XV 2006
29.Martin Kotte, Germany 74.8k MGC 2006
30.Brian Admunsen, USA 73.3k MGI 2006
31.Eric Franz, Germany 72.3k MGC 2006
32.Troy Smith, USA 71.1k GGC 2006
33.Matt Chips, USA 70.1k SoHGC 2006
34.Mark Riddle, USA 66.6k MGI 2006
35.Mike Hadland, USA 65.7k SoHGC 2006
36.Marco Bouma, Holland 65.2k Euro 2006
37.Arne Persson, Sweden 65.0k LGC XV 2006
38.Niels Schabacker, Germany 64.9k MGC 2006
39.Steve Shafley, USA 60.9k MGI 2006
40.Paul Doyle, USA 53.6k SoHGC 2006
41.Nicklas Wennerberg, Sweden 53.0k LGC XV 2006
42.Christoph Koch, Germany 52.8k MGC 2006



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Ben: let's forget about these lists. They really are Mikael's lists and nothing more. I think it is time to build new ones based on what the Grip Community wants (and Grip Community = Gripboard ).

I think you, David, Nick and many more would have the credibility required to maintain such lists. As for me i don't, but i am still a grip enthusiast 5 years after i started, and would dearly like to see these lists with all the records and names like David Horne on them.

Cheers,

Amaury

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That's the 12 months rolling list - perhaps it's been that long since David did the lift in a competition? I don't know that but it would account for it. The all time list is a different list.

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You must be right. I hope you are right.

It says 2005 after David's name - that would be off the 12 month list now. He'll be back after his next contest that has this event I'm sure.

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It has been over a year for many notables. Mikael's name is dropped, as I believe it has been over 1 year since the Australian Grip Championships. Also, since the Supermatch was not officially calibrated, those numbers are also missing for Steve and Theo.

So Geezer East climbs to #5?? Literally, what the hell is the world coming to...

Hubgeezer :shifty

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Attrition is my plan - if I can't out lift them - maybe I can outlast them!

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That reply makes you look like a fool, does it not. Do you understand what the 12 month rolling concept means?

quote name='amaury' date='Feb 28 2007, 04:12 PM' post='285470']

Ben: let's forget about these lists. They really are Mikael's lists and nothing more. I think it is time to build new ones based on what the Grip Community wants (and Grip Community = Gripboard ).

I think you, David, Nick and many more would have the credibility required to maintain such lists. As for me i don't, but i am still a grip enthusiast 5 years after i started, and would dearly like to see these lists with all the records and names like David Horne on them.

Cheers,

Amaury

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No Ben it is not a joke. It was about 14 months since he last competed. It would perhaps been better to ask me in a pm rather than thinking out loud.

What did I miss? Where's David's name on the list? A joke?
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No Ben it is not a joke. It was about 14 months since he last competed. It would perhaps been better to ask me in a pm rather than thinking out loud.
What did I miss? Where's David's name on the list? A joke?

My bad Mikael. But remember, not everyone on the board is attacking you when they ask you a question. I'll continue to think out loud, but thanks for the invitation to PM you...

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That reply makes you look like a fool, does it not. Do you understand what the 12 month rolling concept means?

quote name='amaury' date='Feb 28 2007, 04:12 PM' post='285470']

Ben: let's forget about these lists. They really are Mikael's lists and nothing more. I think it is time to build new ones based on what the Grip Community wants (and Grip Community = Gripboard ).

I think you, David, Nick and many more would have the credibility required to maintain such lists. As for me i don't, but i am still a grip enthusiast 5 years after i started, and would dearly like to see these lists with all the records and names like David Horne on them.

Cheers,

Amaury

Once again a personal attack. His suggestions is one which has been discussed REGARDLESS OF THE CONCEPT OF A ROLLING 12 MONTHS - that it would be easier to create new lists than get you to change your mind. It would also prove what I said - members would accept it and so would the mods.

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