EricMilfeld Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Those who've bent both, please respond. I need to know where the mighty Gazza goes on the top 50 bending list. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Those who've bent both, please respond. I need to know where the mighty Gazza goes on the top 50 bending list. Thanks. ← Eric I will just have to bend a RED to seal the deal cause i got no intension of going backwards besides i was a naughty little B*****d when i was younger so now im all growd up I wanna be a Big B*****d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 For me a G9 is even tougher than a Red as Gary might remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamidon Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Grade 9 is definitely easier than a red to kink and about the same on crushdown. The graded bolts do not fall off in difficulty as fast as CRS bars do when they are hot so if you get the red moving fast and hot it will likely be easier to crushdown than the grade 9. The grade 9s get so hot when you bend them they can burn you which is cool The grade 8 5.5" and the grade 9 6" are probably equivalent. I think when making the lists I would always favor the tougher bar regardless of length rather than a shorter bar of an easier stock. Otherwise you will likely never stop arguing over which is the more difficult bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Greg and Eric, Where do the 6" x 5/16" FBBC Grade 2's rank ? I can bend these with ease and also took down a 5.5" x 5/16" one also. Ben swears that they are harder than a Grade 8 but I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) Those who've bent both, please respond. I need to know where the mighty Gazza goes on the top 50 bending list. Thanks. ← G9. I have bent both. The crush is even harder then a red, where as a Grade 8 isnt quiet there. I am also good at 6" and preffer them over 7", so it is all variance. Edited December 14, 2005 by Oldtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks a lot for the help, everybody! Tmmicklabs, here's the link to my calibration results of the FBBC stock. If you're referring to the "307A", you'll see it in the list. http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=10343 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Oldtime You make referense to a 6"and 7" G9 how do you rate both of them,the one i did was 6" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) Oldtime You make referense to a 6"and 7" G9 how do you rate both of them,the one i did was 6" ← i was talking about a rednail being 7", and the grade 9 being 6". I cant find bolts in 7" length.. In my opinion, if you can bend a Grade 9, you can do a red, and a 5.5 Grade 8. And if you cant, you need to practice on longer nails, bigtime. Edited December 14, 2005 by Oldtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Oldtime Your right i need to practise on 7"stuff bigtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handgripperman Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 for me G9 is harder than a red and harder than 5.5 G8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks a lot for the help, everybody!Tmmicklabs, here's the link to my calibration results of the FBBC stock. If you're referring to the "307A", you'll see it in the list. http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=10343 ← Eric, I am looking at your results and see that the "307a" 6" x 5/16" only takes 305lbs to bend. This seems way low in my opinion. 305lbs for the FBBC 6" x 1/4" round stock sounds right to me though. It the 305 on the "307a" a typo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks a lot for the help, everybody!Tmmicklabs, here's the link to my calibration results of the FBBC stock. If you're referring to the "307A", you'll see it in the list. http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=10343 ← Eric, I am looking at your results and see that the "307a" 6" x 5/16" only takes 305lbs to bend. This seems way low in my opinion. 305lbs for the FBBC 6" x 1/4" round stock sounds right to me though. It the 305 on the "307a" a typo ? ← No, it's not a typo. I've bent several of these bolts personally. They are about as easy as 5/16" stock gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamidon Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) for me G9 is harder than a red and harder than 5.5 G8 ← Kevin, perhaps on the crushdown. It is easier to kink the grade 9. A red when you crush it down slow feels more like a grade 9, when you go fast the CRS is easier than a grade 9 to crushdown. I do agree if you can do one you can probably do the other, the only difference being the 7" length of the red which initially causes people problems. Edited December 14, 2005 by gamidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) It really depends what your weaknesses are, If ya cant kink the damn thing, ya aint gunna be able to crush it. If you can crush a grade 9, and you have sub par kink strength, you will get the red. Edited December 14, 2005 by Oldtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks a lot for the help, everybody!Tmmicklabs, here's the link to my calibration results of the FBBC stock. If you're referring to the "307A", you'll see it in the list. http://www.gripboard.com/index.php?showtopic=10343 ← Eric, I am looking at your results and see that the "307a" 6" x 5/16" only takes 305lbs to bend. This seems way low in my opinion. 305lbs for the FBBC 6" x 1/4" round stock sounds right to me though. It the 305 on the "307a" a typo ? ← No, it's not a typo. I've bent several of these bolts personally. They are about as easy as 5/16" stock gets. ← I am also bending these with ease. I recently picked up some 6" x 5/16" Grade 2 Hex Bolts that have "HKT" on the head and can not even kink them. I am bending grade 8's without issue these days. Have you ever come across any of these HKT 5/16" Grade 2's ? If so how would you rate them ? Thanks again for your insight Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 It really depends what your weaknesses are, If ya cant kink the damn thing, ya aint gunna be able to crush it. I am gonna disagree with you on this. Benzilla was not able to kink a grade 8 at my house a month ago. I bent one down to 90 degress for him and he then finished it off with ease. His crush is insane but his kinking was very weak back then. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 It really depends what your weaknesses are, If ya cant kink the damn thing, ya aint gunna be able to crush it. I am gonna disagree with you on this. Benzilla was not able to kink a grade 8 at my house a month ago. I bent one down to 90 degress for him and he then finished it off with ease. His crush is insane but his kinking was very weak back then. Just a thought. ← How can you crush a nail if you cant get it to the crush position? im not talking about pre-kinking stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 It really depends what your weaknesses are, If ya cant kink the damn thing, ya aint gunna be able to crush it. I am gonna disagree with you on this. Benzilla was not able to kink a grade 8 at my house a month ago. I bent one down to 90 degress for him and he then finished it off with ease. His crush is insane but his kinking was very weak back then. Just a thought. ← How can you crush a nail if you cant get it to the crush position? im not talking about pre-kinking stuff. ← lol Got ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Tmmicklabs, yes, I've bent some of those "HKT" bolts and found them to be an average strength grd 2 bolt. I've bent some other brands of those same dimensions that were as tough as Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmicklabs Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Tmmicklabs, yes, I've bent some of those "HKT" bolts and found them to be an average strength grd 2 bolt. I've bent some other brands of those same dimensions that were as tough as Reds. ← So would you consider the "307a" from FBBC a weak grade 2 bolt then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Tmmicklabs, yes, I've bent some of those "HKT" bolts and found them to be an average strength grd 2 bolt. I've bent some other brands of those same dimensions that were as tough as Reds. ← So would you consider the "307a" from FBBC a weak grade 2 bolt then ? ← Yes, definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtime Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yep, thats why grade 2 bolts suck, alot of variance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorGrip Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) I have bent all 3 items in question. Grade 9 Hex Bolt 6" 97th day of bending 1st try Grade 8 Hex Bolt 5.5" June 1, 05 Red Nail 7"x5/16" July and several since the last 2 was on Monday. For me it has been the 7" length that puts me out of my comfort zone. So the Red at 7" was the hardest The Grade 9 6" was easier than the Grade 8 5.5 " I think that body structure and mechanics have a direct effect on bending thus you find that different people have different sweet lengths that they tend to bend well in different diameters. Edited December 15, 2005 by GatorGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Gator Was the G9 bolt you bend labelled L9 or F911.The F911 bolts are definately harder than the L9 type to me anyway I also find a G8x5.5" easier than the F911 bolt Were do you guys rate a G8x5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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