Cunny Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Can anyone help.Just something I've been thinking about Who invented Grippers and which was the first. Who invented the other various lifts such as pinch and vertical bar lift and who was the first person to advocate levering. Obviously some lifts evolve such as the wrist curl but can anyone shed some light on the history of the main grip lifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grh122 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 The book "The Super Athletes" by David Willoughby has extensive documentation of historical pinch grip and leverage feats. Hand dynanometers were also used as far back as the beginning of the 1900's, and possibly earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 The Regnier dynamometer was manufactured in the late 1790's. I introduced the Vertical Bar lift into the British Grip Champs in 1994, after reading in a 1940's Health & Strength mag of using a light vertical bar to help with the One Hand Swing. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 [Mr horne you are trully a master of the strength of arts, i really admire you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 i read somewhere that Richard Sorin is considered ''the father of the york blob''. i don't know if this means he came up with the idea, or if he was just the first man to master it... maybe someone else has the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showlarson Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 i read somewhere that Richard Sorin is considered ''the father of the york blob''. i don't know if this means he came up with the idea, or if he was just the first man to master it... maybe someone else has the answer. ← I think both is the answer to that question. I heard he came up with the idea and has obviously mastered it as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 cool Shane, Sorin is the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 guys yous all know that i invented hands and anything that has to do with them~~ but i think that thomas inch invented thick bar stuff i didn't read this anywere but i'm just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Nope, thick bars were around before Thomas Inch. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunny Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Anyone know about the pinch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 As a competitive lift the Two Hands Pinch Lift was in the first British Grip Champs in 1991. Strongmen such as Apollon and Vansittart pinched objects in their shows at the beginning of the 1900's. No doubt it was done well before this if I dig a little deeper. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubgeezer Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 What I am about to say is going to upset many people, but I think it is true. If not for Randy Strossen of IronMind, most of us would NOT be into grip. Sure, there would be Richard Sorin, John Brookfield, and David Horne if Randy never introduced the many products that he has, but at least 75% of us would not be on something called the Gripboard if it was not for IronMind Enterprises. The Gripboard itself has also played a huge role in the advancement and evolution of the Sport. Warren Tettings' first grippers advertised in Iron Man magazine in the 1960's are also an extremely important historical point in the modern era of the Sport. And David, that is really cool to learn about the introduction of the Vertical Bar. My brother is a very serious strength history student, aged 56 with a memory for detail that puts most to shame(he is a moderator on a Joe Roark website), and since he was in town for Thanksgiving, just this evening he saw a Vertical Bar in my garage for the first time. I explained to him that it was a standard event in most grip contests nowadays. I can tell him tomorrow how it got started. I rarely am able to tell him anything new. Hubgeezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Horne Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Glad to be of help. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Info about the V-bar lift. This is just the opening paragraph of a Jim Wylie article The Vertical Bar Lift By Jim Wylie The vertical bar lift was first advocated as an exercise for improving hand strength in 1943 in an article by Norman E Morris (featured in Health and Strength magazine). If you can visualise King Arthur pulling the sword from the stone, then you get the idea of how to perform the lift. You need a length of iron/steel piping with a collar secured at one end and loaded with plates. Grasp the bar with one hand and lift! The apparatus only needs to break the floor to be a good lift but it must be held aloft of 2 seconds with no locking of the hand against the thigh or bar touching the forearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lemanczyk Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I am confident that ANYTHING any of us try to do grip orientated that it has been attempted sometime before in our history of mankind. I would honestly think that leverage lifting could go back as far as barbarian warriors who weilded heavy weaponry. The same for stone lifting and pinching odd objects. Things like grippers were made so men did not have to pick up rocks to gain strength. The mankind of today is weak, we need to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 As a competitive lift the Two Hands Pinch Lift was in the first British Grip Champs in 1991.Strongmen such as Apollon and Vansittart pinched objects in their shows at the beginning of the 1900's. No doubt it was done well before this if I dig a little deeper. David ← Arthur Saxon also did some very impresive pinching at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I am confident that ANYTHING any of us try to do grip orientated that it has been attempted sometime before in our history of mankind.I would honestly think that leverage lifting could go back as far as barbarian warriors who weilded heavy weaponry. The same for stone lifting and pinching odd objects. Things like grippers were made so men did not have to pick up rocks to gain strength. The mankind of today is weak, we need to change it. ← i agree, looking back on the barbarian days todays man is very weak. hey, what gripper do you think Conan could close? i'm sayin the #3 first try and not far from the #4, then with about a years training the BB World Class . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lemanczyk Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 i agree, looking back on the barbarian days todays man is very weak. hey, what gripper do you think Conan could close? i'm sayin the #3 first try and not far from the #4, then with about a years training the BB World Class . ← I am not sure if Ahnold had grip strength. I am sure a Viking for example did though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 i agree, looking back on the barbarian days todays man is very weak. hey, what gripper do you think Conan could close? i'm sayin the #3 first try and not far from the #4, then with about a years training the BB World Class . ← I am not sure if Ahnold had grip strength. I am sure a Viking for example did though. ← i wasn't talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger, i meant the character ''Conan the Barbarian''. he's ridiculously strong... maybe i'm the only nerd here who has read a Conan comic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toboku Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 no yer not the only nerd on here who reads conan comics, or conan stories by REH for that matter the character Conan was extremely strong and swung a heavy broadsword 1 handed like it was a rapier he also did blacksmithing in his village iirc, before he decided to raom the world forget about the movie where he was enslaved as a child, this goes against what the creator of conan had in mind for him he was enslaved later in life, but he wasnt freed he escaped hmm, rereading my post i think im a bigger nerd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybersnott Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Things like grippers were made so men did not have to pick up rocks to gain strength. The mankind of today is weak, we need to change it. ← People today are weak because modern machinery and automation has become a way of life. Nobody puts muscle into doing things anymore; weightlifting?... who needs to do it? I'm willing to bet 95 percent of the population today could not pick up 100 pounds by themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lemanczyk Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 People today are weak because modern machinery and automation has become a way of life. Nobody puts muscle into doing things anymore; weightlifting?... who needs to do it? I'm willing to bet 95 percent of the population today could not pick up 100 pounds by themselves. ← An interesting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Side Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 People today are weak because modern machinery and automation has become a way of life. Nobody puts muscle into doing things anymore; weightlifting?... who needs to do it? I'm willing to bet 95 percent of the population today could not pick up 100 pounds by themselves. ← I doubt it's that bad. I hope it's not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorKomodo Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 (edited) I am confident that ANYTHING any of us try to do grip orientated that it has been attempted sometime before in our history of mankind.I would honestly think that leverage lifting could go back as far as barbarian warriors who weilded heavy weaponry. The same for stone lifting and pinching odd objects. Things like grippers were made so men did not have to pick up rocks to gain strength. The mankind of today is weak, we need to change it. ← i agree, looking back on the barbarian days todays man is very weak. hey, what gripper do you think Conan could close? i'm sayin the #3 first try and not far from the #4, then with about a years training the BB World Class . ← I defintly agee wih you guys , mankind has grown very weak in the past few thousand years. Alas, there is nothing we can do about it. Conan could definitly close a #3 on the first try. heh. I have read almost all the Conan stories by Robert Howard and they are awesome. He Spent most of his time killing huge monsters and powerful sorcerers with his immense strength, quick reflexes, and resourceful intellect. So of course he would clearly dominate any strength challenges that regular humans could come up with. Edited November 29, 2005 by ProfessorKomodo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twig Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Thrudd the barbarian could have Conan any day of the week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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