MEB Boy Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hello all, I have a quick question I hope some of you all could help me out with. I've seen some photos in the Gallery section of Grippers with one handle modified to an extended handle. Some looked to be about a foot in length. What is the reason/purpose for having one handle of the gripper extended to that distance? thanks, MEB Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooinabc1 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Negtives is the key for some people that helps with fastest recovery and max gain in strenght or power training versus max out on the repping. And easier to get the handles together by using extended handles. But train smart and warm up frist. Neg can injury you very fast too if you have not train for that kind of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekx Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 with the extended handle it is easier to get leverage to get the handles together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEB Boy Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 Thanks. I had no idea what the purpose of the extended handle was. So the extended handle really helps with negatives? thanks MEB Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Thanks.I had no idea what the purpose of the extended handle was. So the extended handle really helps with negatives? thanks The extended handle idea was described by Joe Kinney in Ironminds' book "Captains of Crush Grippers" [ What They are and How to Close Them]. Kinney`s method of using a 1 inch ID pipe with an inner sleeve to reduce the ID was too haphazard for me. He sleeved the pipe to reduce the ID so when he slid his gripper into the pipe, the gripper would fit snug. You would have to hold the spring with the free hand to keep the gripper from flipping to either side as you pushed down on the gripper with the working hand. Severe wrist injury could occur if you were not vigilent with the holding hand. In order to use the extended handle, you need a solid foundation made of wood in which the handle is inserted 3 inches deep. A 4x4 post will work. The height for the drilled hole is important. Kinney recommended a height between the wrist and the knuckles with your arm by your side natural like. The extended handle gripper you saw in the gallery is one I had Tetting make for me. I wanted a solid handle like a normal gripper to erase any possibility of the gripper flipping to either side when you pushed down on it. I had Tetting make several of these Grippers in all the high strengths. Top notch quality and they work great! The handle is 9 inches long and it is inserted 3 1/4 inches into a station I made on a wooden work bench. You stand to a side of the handle and using body weight, you push the exposed top handle down to the extended handle. This method takes away the fight of getting a heavy gripper into the closed position for a severe negative. Once the handles are closed, believe you me, the fight is back on. Anyway, it is not for everyones taste, but I like using it. I recommend you get the book just for the Joe Kinney section, which is about 42 pages of good info on crush training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handgripperman Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 How long do you think the handles need to be to close the galaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 How long do you think the handles need to be to close the galaxy The Galaxy? Fuh-Ged-about-it............. Kinney`s purpose of the extended handle was to be able to get the #4 closed down easier than the way he originally did it. Before the handle, he would mash the #4 down against his leg, which after doing it 60 times each hand, would create a high pain toll to his hand and leg. You could use a 9 inch handle for a galaxy, but I imagine you would need to weigh 300lbs. or more to be able to push it down to close. I weigh 230 and it takes it all to get the Pro down to close for about a 3-4 second negative. It is brutal......... I do not use the Pro to often. The object of the handle is to eventually use less body weight to get the high strength grippers in to position. Or when you get the high strength gripper closed, you need to learn how to ease off the body weight you used to close it and then perform the negative normally. I say the Galaxy would be a waste of time and would prove to be unproductive. Lastly, I am not pushing this as the silver bullet for progression with grippers. I just wanted to try and give MEB Boy the clear picture of the EX. handles' purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Edgin Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 FWIW, I tried closing the Galaxy using my own bodyweight (a svelte 360lbs) a couple weeks ago and supersqueeze was laying on the ground to see how close the handles got. Before this, I chest crushed it to about 1". After bouncing on the Galaxy with my full bodyweight a few times, supersqueeze said that it looked like I got it closer by chest crushing it than by bouncing my weight on it. With longer aluminum handles, I'd be afraid of them bending before the gripper is fully closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 FWIW, I tried closing the Galaxy using my own bodyweight (a svelte 360lbs) a couple weeks ago and supersqueeze was laying on the ground to see how close the handles got. Before this, I chest crushed it to about 1". After bouncing on the Galaxy with my full bodyweight a few times, supersqueeze said that it looked like I got it closer by chest crushing it than by bouncing my weight on it. With longer aluminum handles, I'd be afraid of them bending before the gripper is fully closed! Whoa Big Fella! First time I ever heard 360 described as sevelte Why the hell aren`t you in the NFL? Slow white guy or what? ( Just Kiddin') Given the wire size of the Galaxy that is awesome!. Maybe with a pair of cold rolled steel handles, 4.5 inches long, I believe a Big O' Hoss like you could get it down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEB Boy Posted October 19, 2004 Author Share Posted October 19, 2004 zcor, Thanks for the in-depth explanation. Your explanation made sense to me and was easy to understand. I guess it shows there are many ways to train grippers. This is one of the areas where I really need to improve - improving my crushing strength. I had not read the IM book about the CoC grippers, but it is one of the things on my wish list to buy. I am currently still awaiting the FBBC bender's bag. thanks, MEB Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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