GordonV Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Congrats Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Black Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqeezeMasterFlash Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Nice job strongmitts! I think the next logical step is for Ironmind to introduce the pink nail, 7" x 3/8" CRS. That ought to keep people at bay for at least a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ostlund Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS27 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 whats the difference between folding and bending. i must've missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) I adopted Brookfields terminology for describing different (initial) approaches to achieving a U-shaped bar or nail. Folding, in this context, refers to basically maximum compressional force applied to the ends of the bar at the very start of the bend. Bending, in this context, refers to techniques where compressional force is not applied to the ends of the bar at the start of the bend.A good example of the latter is the old Terminator reversed style. In the latter part of the bend, compressional force is applied to the ends of the bar in all, above the waist, techniques that I have seen. Edited June 30, 2004 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Bending, in this context, refers to techniques where compressional force is not applied to the ends of the bar at the start of the bend. But keep in mind all styles generate compressional force, though in varying degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Dockery Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Outstanding! I too am of the opinion that Red=3. And I agree that something in the realm of 7x3/8" will be around the 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 (edited) I would disagree (at least with the old IM rules). I think the red nail is more difficult than a #3. Remember that most of the people that now bend the red after less than a year of bending had prior to this, in many cases, done several years of general forearm training. I am close at being able to bend a red nail after 6 months of bending but had prior to this several years of grip traing conditioning my hands and wrists. I closed the #3 after 6 months of gripper training with far less of previous grip training. Edited June 30, 2004 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I would disagree (at least with the old IM rules). I think the red nail is more difficult than a #3. Remember that most of the people that now bend the red after less than a year of bending had prior to this, in many cases, done several years of general forearm training. I agree. I think the Red's definitely tougher than a #3 close, but perhaps a bit easier than an "average" #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I would disagree (at least with the old IM rules). I think the red nail is more difficult than a #3. Remember that most of the people that now bend the red after less than a year of bending had prior to this, in many cases, done several years of general forearm training. I am close at being able to bend a red nail after 6 months of bending but had prior to this several years of grip traing conditioning my hands and wrists. I closed the #3 after 6 months of gripper training with far less of previous grip training. But that was the 3 with the old rules as you say. How long did it take for you to close the 3 with the current rules? From what I have read and my own progress % wise the red and the credit card 3 close could be comparable even though nothing can be exact with these things. Certainly the 4 with the current rules is MUCH harder then mere bending of the red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amaury Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Congrats and congrats again Strongmitts, i'm very happy for you, it's a great accomplishment ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Vigeant Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Nothing wrong with folding (as long as we are aware of that it is less of a test of wrist strength than the underhand/old Terminator way of starting the bend) as it is probably the best way of turning a red into a U-shape. Once again, however, the technique will cause a change in the IM rules for certification, so this may be of some concern for future red nail folders. Congratulations anyway, as it is still a pretty good display of hand/wrist/upper body strength. Can YOU do it thatway?!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Congrats on killing the RED!! BTW - there is no such thing as a "mere" bending of a RED - Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gripgal Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Congrats strongmitts on bending the red.. you are so awesome..I LOVE YOU!! gripgal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Nothing wrong with folding (as long as we are aware of that it is less of a test of wrist strength than the underhand/old Terminator way of starting the bend) as it is probably the best way of turning a red into a U-shape. Once again, however, the technique will cause a change in the IM rules for certification, so this may be of some concern for future red nail folders. Congratulations anyway, as it is still a pretty good display of hand/wrist/upper body strength. Can YOU do it thatway?!!!! I can do many things, including reaching shelves small men cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 How about a video and some pics of you bending Mikael. Together with expert instructions on the correct way to bend a nail? Who in your opinon bends a nail the right way? Gripboard members only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 How about a video and some pics of you bending Mikael. Together with expert instructions on the correct way to bend a nail? Who in your opinon bends a nail the right way? Gripboard members only. What would your life be without me, Old Guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I'd like to see an answer to the question. Who bends "correctly" - Video or pics of the "correct" way to bend a nail - a description as well. Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Typical - answering with a question that avoids having to provide any information - Why? - because you seem to be quite the expert on issues of wrist strength and bending and would like to see you "expert" opinion. Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I just like to argue for the sake of arguing with some of you guys and so do you in this particular case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Once again - no answer to the question. Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 A bit repetitive, tough guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJones Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 You can try to retreat but I am not being argumentative or rude - I would just like an answer to the question. If this is repetitive it is because you are not answering the question. Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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