Roark Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 William 'Apollo' Bankier was born Dec 10, 1870 and became a marvelous strength athlete for Scotland and had his famous flour sack that weighed about 280 pounds, and Willoughby described it: "The sack was tightly pressed down, and was quite unlike an ordinary sack of flour." The sack did not stand tall so contestants trying for the L10 (pounds) of money, had to lie on the floor with their back against the sack and try to manuver it onto their back, and then stand with it. Usually, of course, ir rolled off, Apollo could also hold five pool cues horizontal using the adductor muscles of one hand. (pool cues...was chalk allowed?) Apollo died in 1949. Dec 10 was also the day in 1890 that the McCann Brothers and Sandow contested. And Dec 10, 1955 was the day Joseph Curtis Hise's mother, Amy, passed away, having suffered a heart attack two days earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshadow Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 Thanx for the trivia Roark its all very fascinating! Always interesting!! :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 68-1005097157 Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 I'm having some difficulty visualizing this; why exactly would they have to lie on top of the flour? There are numerous men out there who can pick up a 280 lb sandbag, and the usual method involves putting at least one hand below the bag, that is, touching the ground. The trick is simply to round one's back to the extent necessary; the height of the sack would not really matter to a round-back lifter. It would seem extremely awkward to pick up a huge sack while lying on top of it, or perhaps this was the manner of lifting required by Apollo in his challenge for him to give out the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted December 11, 2001 Author Share Posted December 11, 2001 DocDeadlift, What I meant to communicate was that by lying with the lifter's back to the sack, then the lifter would grab the sack, then lifter is face down on floor with the sack on top of his back; then go to knees, so that standing is possible with the sack on back. Saxon had two flour sacks, one of themhad an offset 56 lb weight in it, so the sack was not 'centered weighted' and if you did not know where the 56 pound weight was in the sack, you would probably fail. Saxon's sacks have been variously reported as 300 and 336 and even more; the heavier he would dust with slippery chalk. Here is some text from nearly 100 years ago: Health & Strength Feb 1903: Last night at the Palace Theatre, Manchester, there was an exciting scene, the outcome of the offer of Apollo, the Scottish athlete, to give L100 to Arthur Saxon, or either of his partners appearing as the Saxon Trio, who can lift a sack of flour weighing over 280 lbs., to put it in his arms, ohis shoulder, and successfully carry it off the stage. The challenge was taken up by Arthur Saxon, but he could only get the sack up to his shoulder, when it fell to the stage. Again he attempted it, but with as little success." The text goes on to describe Saxon's sack as 2'6" in height and 5' in circumference, and one had to 'bear hug' the sack, which of course Arthur had length of arm to do but Apollo could not grasp his hands around the sack, and thus declined the challenge. Further, Arthur claimed he had carried off Apollo's sack in November 1902. Confusing, conflicting sides to this story! Perhaps atvarious times, different methods were employed to lift the sacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 68-1005097157 Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Roark, That's very interesting. I suppose if it was slippery as well, to carry it offstage would be extremely difficult in sandbag fashion. However, I find the detail about the miscellaneous off-center weight to be rather disconcerting; it would seem to imply that this was (to some extent) another oldtime strongman trick rather than a real test of strength. I've heard of similar ones, e.g., a strongman challenges anyone to lift his challenge dumbbell during a show. A huge manual laborer comes up, grasps the bell by the fancy grip in the center not realizing that the center of mass of the bell is actually 6" off-center, and because of this loses balance and fails. But still, 280 lbs is this manner is quite remarkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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