Blacksmith513 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Just had a call with Jedd. Everything' s going good, going to start and work on total body strength, I need to get that up if i'm going to lift the inch. I bought a dip belt, will be doing weighted dips and pull ups keeping them in the 3 rep range. I'm going to stop Get Strong and just do pull ups and dips continue with my handstand progression. Also bought Arm Assassin double loadable sledge, NN 2" handle and 3x4 pinch handles. Also have a blobtop from World of Grip coming. I like the bodyweight stuff because its easy on the joints and makes my work easier but its time to take things up a notch. I should probably start squatting too at some point. Edited March 21, 2023 by Blacksmith513 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 you should start squatting soon it will help in over all body strenght 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 just did probably about 150 swings per arm with 5lbs indian clubs. Plus some rolling on lacrosse balls, and 30 minutes of stretching for neck and upper back area... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matek Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blacksmith513 said: Just had a call with Jedd. Everything' s going good, going to start and work on total body strength, I need to get that up if i'm going to lift the inch. I bought a dip belt, will be doing weighted dips and pull ups keeping them in the 3 rep range. I'm going to stop Get Strong and just do pull ups and dips continue with my handstand progression. Also bought Arm Assassin double loadable sledge, NN 2" handle and 3x4 pinch handles. Also have a blobtop from World of Grip coming. I like the bodyweight stuff because its easy on the joints and makes my work easier but its time to take things up a notch. I should probably start squatting too at some point. Weighted pullups and dips are great. If I can make a recommendation, I would start with weights that give you 5-6 reps. Or at least incorporate them as well. Reason: 1. load on the joints; better get used to it first 2. It's hard to get good volume with only sets of triples, and you want to gain muscle mass (not just optimizing your strength at your current bw). Just my two cents, you do you, of course. Adding squats or/and deadlifts is a good idea as well. Edit: just grammar Edited March 22, 2023 by matek 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 9 hours ago, matek said: Weighted pullups and dips are great. If I can make a recommendation, I would start with weights that give you 5-6 reps. Or at least incorporate them as well. Reason: 1. load on the joints; better get used to it first 2. It's hard to get good volume with only sets of triples, and you want to gain muscle mass (not just optimizing your strength at your current bw). Just my two cents, you do you, of course. Adding squats or/and deadlifts is a good idea as well. Edit: just grammar yes, thanks i'll give both rep ranges a try and see what I respond to better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Blacksmith513 said: Just had a call with Jedd. Everything' s going good, going to start and work on total body strength, I need to get that up if i'm going to lift the inch. I bought a dip belt, will be doing weighted dips and pull ups keeping them in the 3 rep range. I'm going to stop Get Strong and just do pull ups and dips continue with my handstand progression. Also bought Arm Assassin double loadable sledge, NN 2" handle and 3x4 pinch handles. Also have a blobtop from World of Grip coming. I like the bodyweight stuff because its easy on the joints and makes my work easier but its time to take things up a notch. I should probably start squatting too at some point. I highly recommend getting on something like stronglifts 5x5 instead. You're going to develop tons of imbalances with just pull ups,dips and handstands that will lead to injuries down the road. Pull ups are terrible for upper back development and great for lat development the problem is that having lats bigger than your upper back will cause injuries. You're better off getting on a good strength training program and building a base first. Doing weighted dips and pull ups in the 3 rep range right out of the gate isn't a good idea either in my opinion. In the end it's up to you of course but I think you'll regret not building a base first. Edited March 22, 2023 by DevilErik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, DevilErik said: I highly recommend getting on something like stronglifts 5x5 instead. You're going to develop tons of imbalances with just pull ups,dips and handstands that will lead to injuries down the road. Pull ups are terrible for upper back development and great for lat development the problem is that having lats bigger than your upper back will cause injuries. You're better off getting on a good strength training program and building a base first. Doing weighted dips and pull ups in the 3 rep range right out of the gate isn't a good idea either in my opinion. Stronglifts 5x5 is not a good beginner program, in my opinion. I think beginners would benefit more from a 3x5 scheme. Stronglifts gets a lot of criticism, and rightly so. Also, there's nothing wrong with doing just Weighted Pullups, Dips, and Handstand. Any "Imbalances" you might get won't hurt you. I do agree however, working on the 3 rep range off the bat isn't the best idea. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said: Stronglifts 5x5 is not a good beginner program, in my opinion. I think beginners would benefit more from a 3x5 scheme. Stronglifts gets a lot of criticism, and rightly so. Also, there's nothing wrong with doing just Weighted Pullups, Dips, and Handstand. Any "Imbalances" you might get won't hurt you. I do agree however, working on the 3 rep range off the bat isn't the best idea. Every time I try to help someone out on this forum people start jumping on me or "correcting" the things I say. I am not going to argue believe what you want to believe. The imbalances thing is the truth it might not hurt him in the novice phase but it definitely will hurt him later down the road. I also said "something like" stronglifts meaning there are more novice programs out there stronglifts was just an example. Edited March 22, 2023 by DevilErik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonjoseph Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, DevilErik said: Every time I try to help someone out on this forum people start jumping on me or "correcting" the things I say. I am not going to argue believe what you want to believe. The imbalances thing is the truth it might not hurt him in the novice phase but it definitely will hurt him later down the road. I have followed many calisthenics specialists throughout the years. I don't think any "imbalances" they get have actually hurt them. You don't like it when people give you unsolicited advice? Huh..... Strange. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilErik Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Londonjoseph said: I have followed many calisthenics specialists throughout the years. I don't think any "imbalances" they get have actually hurt them. You don't like it when people give you unsolicited advice? Huh..... Strange. Calisthenics specialists lmao because you obviously know how often they get injured and whether or not the reason for those injuries was an imbalance hilarious dude. Also I am just trying to help people I never tell them that they "have" to follow my advice so the unsolicited advice comment is a bit strange. People that only limit themselves to Calisthentics leave tons of gains on the table. I also know that Joe doesn't mind me giving him advice he is welcome to do whatever he wants with it. I am done typing now. Edited March 22, 2023 by DevilErik 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I do listen and take everything everyone says into consideration. I will find a proper balance. My issues are time and space right now, I really only have mornings and at that, 75 minutes to 2 hours which is plenty of time, but still need to try and it barebone because still want to focus on grip and bending. Maybe i'll start up with the sandbags again, squat press and carry them. I got decently strong with them. Problem is you can't load them like barbells. But i've always really enjoyed training with them and dont take up a lot of space. this morning just 24minutes 4000m on Concept 2 and 10 minutes of stretching. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripperer Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Blacksmith513 said: Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I do listen and take everything everyone says into consideration. I will find a proper balance. My issues are time and space right now, I really only have mornings and at that, 75 minutes to 2 hours which is plenty of time, but still need to try and it barebone because still want to focus on grip and bending. Maybe i'll start up with the sandbags again, squat press and carry them. I got decently strong with them. Problem is you can't load them like barbells. But i've always really enjoyed training with them and dont take up a lot of space. this morning just 24minutes 4000m on Concept 2 and 10 minutes of stretching. YES sandbags, didn't want to harp on about them but since you've mentioned yourself... Row, GM, squat, OHP, floor press, carry. Keep it basic, smash the volume. Good luck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Gripperer said: YES sandbags, didn't want to harp on about them but since you've mentioned yourself... Row, GM, squat, OHP, floor press, carry. Keep it basic, smash the volume. Good luck. Thanks. Yup, i'll mess around with them tomorrow and see what I got. I think within a couple months i'd gain my all strength back with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripperer Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Blacksmith513 said: Thanks. Yup, i'll mess around with them tomorrow and see what I got. I think within a couple months i'd gain my all strength back with them. Yes, or even sooner maybe. You're right that you can't load them as heavy as barbells, but I don't think weight is king when it comes to stimulus... Resistance is. And if a small weight on a disadvantaged lever provides more resistance... So be it. There's a reason why carrying a 300lbs bag is an elite feat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 Warm up did some zercher squats with 2 sandbags unknown weight. One is 120lbs i believe and the other is probably 70lbs.. Form was good and got down real low. But I kept it to sets of 1 and 2. Next week i'll do more reps. WD 2 orange spring, didnt get to working sets just warmed up Levering 14lbs sledge 27"x3 27"x3 28"x3 27"x3 27"x3 DO IMP 2ft 3/16x7" square 8 seconds 60dtimber tie 20 seconds 60dtimber tie 10 seconds Reverse suedes 60d 5.5"-19 seconds 6 1/4 DR x 1/4- 31 seconds 5.75" CRSx 1/4 2 minutes I got it down to about 40 degrees pretty fast but took a break to give it one more hit before the crush thats it for today no isos. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 TRX Dips BW+ 10lbs 6,8 Ring pull ups BW+10lbs 3,3 Chest Krusher 3 springs 8,8 Loadable Dumbbell 2 3/8 handle Left 80 x_2 82.5 x 2 80 x 2 80 x 2 80 x2 Right 80 x2 82.5 x2 80 x2 80 x 2 80 x2 Level Negatives Left 80 x 5 81 x 5 82 x 5 Right 80x 5 81 x 5 82 x 5 RGT Holds 75 x8 seconds 75x 6 seconds 75x 6 seconds Right 75 x9 seconds 75 x 8 seconds 75 x 6 seconds RGT Thumbless Deadlifts. Left 85lbs 75x 2 77.5 x 2 80 x 2 Right 75 x 2 77.5 x 2 80 x 2 NN2&3/8 180 x2 182.5 x 2 184 x 1 185x1 186x miss NN Rows 125 3 sets of 3 extensor bands 16 minute yoga i just don't have my endurance back, whatever i was sick with zapped me of it and i'm getting winded easy and not recovering between sets. I'll get through it just gotta keep pushing. I think i'll take deload next week, let my body recover and restructure some things, i want to focus more on getting stronger in general. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I know the feeling of being rundown and missing weights you hit not long ago. You will get back your strength and don't neglect how much a bad infections can zap your strength. I find I can miss weight that I was repping a week ago just getting a few hours less of sleep so a bad infection can wreck you. I think a deload is a good idea to let your body recover especially since you were dealing with some neck pains also. You will be back stronger. I almost always feel stronger and mentally refreshed after a deload. There is a lot of literature on the importance of deloads and it seems common practice among most top athletes. If you got Jedd coaching you though I would listen to him also as his you can't really get anyone more knowledge then him with regards to grip training. I found overall strength really helped my bending especially heavy push movements like overhead presses and benching. They surprisingly hit your forearms and wrist well to stabilize heavy weight. If you look at a lot of top benders in the past they all tended to have pretty strong upper bodies. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripperer Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Two things to add to Stephen's wisdom: - I don't know what illness you suffered but if it was respiratory related, try not to get breathing heavy for a while as your lungs need to repair - an increase in bodyweight and general strength does seem to bring grip benefits. If I increase general strength but reduce grip training, I seem to somehow maintain my dynamometer score (without having touched it in a while) Trying to lug about a big sandbag without handles isn't necessarily thought of as a grip exercise, but I'm convinced that it can really reinforce the hand due to all that open gripping, which is quite awkward (like blob lifting or plate curling, and we know the benefits of those). Edited March 25, 2023 by Gripperer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Stephen Ruby said: I know the feeling of being rundown and missing weights you hit not long ago. You will get back your strength and don't neglect how much a bad infections can zap your strength. I find I can miss weight that I was repping a week ago just getting a few hours less of sleep so a bad infection can wreck you. I think a deload is a good idea to let your body recover especially since you were dealing with some neck pains also. You will be back stronger. I almost always feel stronger and mentally refreshed after a deload. There is a lot of literature on the importance of deloads and it seems common practice among most top athletes. If you got Jedd coaching you though I would listen to him also as his you can't really get anyone more knowledge then him with regards to grip training. I found overall strength really helped my bending especially heavy push movements like overhead presses and benching. They surprisingly hit your forearms and wrist well to stabilize heavy weight. If you look at a lot of top benders in the past they all tended to have pretty strong upper bodies. Thank you for all the advice. Yes Jedd is a great coach and always keeps me moving in the right direction, I've learned so much. The good thing that comes out of times like these is its always makes me appreciate my body more when I can give it a 100%. 5 hours ago, Gripperer said: Two things to add to Stephen's wisdom: - I don't know what illness you suffered but if it was respiratory related, try not to get breathing heavy for a while as your lungs need to repair - an increase in bodyweight and general strength does seem to bring grip benefits. If I increase general strength but reduce grip training, I seem to somehow maintain my dynamometer score (without having touched it in a while) Trying to lug about a big sandbag without handles isn't necessarily thought of as a grip exercise, but I'm convinced that it can really reinforce the hand due to all that open gripping, which is quite awkward (like blob lifting or plate curling, and we know the benefits of those). Yes it was respiratory, Work has also been incredibly stressful, not physically but mentally and its taking a toll. From now on I want to tell every customer you can have 2 out of the 3 options.... Good, fast or cheap... It can be good and fast, but open your wallet, or it can be cheap and fast but you get what you pay for. Or it can be what i prefer good and cheap but don't rush us. Everyone wants all 3 and its not possible. Sorry rant over Yeah, sandbags work the hands.. I can't wait to start getting into them again. I can still lift them, but not like i used to. Gonna take a few sessions to get back in the groove. Bearhug carries are still my favorite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Good weekend. We cut out 2 windows from a beautiful old house last year that was getting torn down. Sold them for $1500 yesterday. Got my cut of $500 Was watching Tom Petty documentary last night, and it made me want a certain guitar pedal. One came up on market place as i was watching the program, and even in the description he used the words great for Tom Petty tones (i'm an even bigger guitar nerd then grip ) The guy lived right near the nursing home where our friends are and i was going there this morning. So it worked out perfect and $160 later i got my pedal. I think its worth about $250 all day. Then i got home and got an email from WorldofGrip, my blobtop and levertop should ship tomorrow. THEN my order from Arm Assassin came on a Sunday. Edited March 26, 2023 by Blacksmith513 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just did 2000m on Concept 2. Looking forward to this deload week. I've noticed after all these years, no matter the routine, i need a deload every 5-12 weeks... Usually closer to 12. Going on week three still coughing up crap but not nearly as bad. I'm sure by next week i'll be in fighting shape. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 nice work with widows and the pedal, new grip toys (way cool) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith513 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Deload Both hands RGT 70x1 72.5x1 75x1 3 sets some ring pull up and dips Chest Krusher NN 2x5 pinc 100x3 102.5x3 105x3 110x3 115x3 120x1 120x1 Decided to mess around with new NN pinch block NN 3x4 90x3 90x3 Rows with NN 3x4 pinch 70x3 70x3 side winder extensor bands I LOVE the way they hit the hands. But i'll stick with 2x5 for now. Maybe ill use these for rowing though. deload felt great, i still am getting winded very easy but it is what it is. My moms trying to make me go to Drs but i know they will just say give it time and heres a $300 bill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knowlton Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 nice workout today, your mom is right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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