Tommy J. Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Well… it’s official now. Grip Genie is swallowing the whole game up. when I google search “gripboard” the first thing that comes up above the gripboard on the search que is grip genie. Holy Moly.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Jujimufu has to find a way to pay for that expensive ass gym he just built 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Tommy J. said: Well… it’s official now. Grip Genie is swallowing the whole game up. when I google search “gripboard” the first thing that comes up above the gripboard on the search que is grip genie. Holy Moly.. That is paid Ad. There are other ways to organically get up without being paid AD. Fun fact: Tom owns more of grip genie than juji. Edit: added the word more Edited August 27, 2021 by Alawadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Update: Gripboard back on top. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftyzig Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 you can literally pick out search terms for your paid ads to come up fisrt on, thats all it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE101 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Alawadhi said: Fun fact: Tom owns more of grip genie than juji Really? How'd you find this out? Judging from the social media posts and recent litigation it does not look like he's really in the picture any more. I'm not saying I don't believe you, it's just surprising to hear that. Edited August 27, 2021 by DAVE101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 PHEW! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Grip Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, DAVE101 said: Really? How'd you find this out? Judging from the social media posts and recent litigation it does not look like he's really in the picture any more. I'm not saying I don't believe you, it's just surprising to hear that. My thoughts exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magiclifts321 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Bigfoot Grip said: My thoughts exactly. yea im about 99% sure toms out of the picture now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 17 hours ago, DAVE101 said: Really? How'd you find this out? Judging from the social media posts and recent litigation it does not look like he's really in the picture any more. I'm not saying I don't believe you, it's just surprising to hear that. He is not Juji's friend and camera man. They had a fight. But he still owns % in the company. Juji got another site that he owns 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE101 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Alawadhi said: He is not Juji's friend and camera man. They had a fight. But he still owns % in the company. Juji got another site that he owns 100%. You didn't answer how you know this though I don't see any public information that he still owns most of the company, and all of his photos have been removed from their website as well as GG's Social Media that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Update: grip genie back on top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Farsmann Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 As the others already pointed out : If you take a closer look at your search results you may notice that there is a "Ad" in front of your first search result ->GripGenie, meaning they paid for it to show up first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Benedikt Farsmann said: As the others already pointed out : If you take a closer look at your search results you may notice that there is a "Ad" in front of your first search result ->GripGenie, meaning they paid for it to show up first. Hey man, let us have our fun. I'm enjoying playing Google roulette each day to see what pops up first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE101 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 6 hours ago, stranger said: Hey man, let us have our fun. I'm enjoying playing Google roulette each day to see what pops up first. It does not "pop up first" - ads do not count as results. In fact, I recommend updating your version of AdBlock because I don't even see GripGenie in the first 10 pages of results on my end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, DAVE101 said: It does not "pop up first" - ads do not count as results. In fact, I recommend updating your version of AdBlock because I don't even see GripGenie in the first 10 pages of results on my end. I don't use AdBlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 Okay so reading through the thread I’m sort of sensing that because it’s an ad, it doesn’t count as a takeover like I described (or worded, rather) in the op? ….ads don’t happen for free. Or by accident. So yes, juji is making that move. Intentionally. So to swoop in on as much business as he can generate. I’ve never even seen Ironmind make that exact move. Not as far as to pay for ads for its equipment to pop up over the gripboard in google anyways. which isn’t a bad thing. Nor is it an immoral thing. Because the gripboard isn’t here to sell grip equipment as it’s main purpose. Which means it’s a move that’s not harmful to the gripboard. So It’s a strong but non aggressive business move at the same time, if that makes any sense. And I applaud Juji for that. was just sort of surprising to see…was my main thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 It has nothing to do with the grip board, it's because that contains the word grip which is an obvious trigger word to set the ad for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Climber028 said: It has nothing to do with the grip board, it's because that contains the word grip which is an obvious trigger word to set the ad for. Ah that’s interesting. Because when I try to prove you right, here’s what comes up- I must be overlooking where grip genie pops up on like the first 4-5 pages of search results.. unlike when I type in “gripboard” and it’s the first thing that pops up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 I’ve yet to spend any significant time experimenting what all possible phrases or key words make grip genie the first search result. Because I don’t really need to to see.. when I search simply “grip” or “Ironmind” or “grip equipment” or “cannon power works” or even “grippers”, grip genie seems to be nowhere in sight. It’s only when I type in “gripboard” I see it front and center. so no, it’s not some nothing accident. It is happening specifically when I type in “gripboard”. And obviously when I flat out search for “grip genie” as well. But that one is a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Alright you might be onto something because that's a little bit outside of typical ad behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) It is odd. But like I said above, I can’t see it being harmful to the actual gripboard since the gripboard doesn’t necessarily sell grip equipment. But… no telling how gripboard sponsors who actually do sell grip equipment might take that phenomenon. I mean if one (as in- a potential new member) were to refer to the gripboard in hopes they will find grip equipment, it’s likely they’ll end up at grip genie before they ever even click the gripboard link. personally, I’d have just contacted Bill and done it like every grip company did it. Including big companies like Ironmind and Sorinex. Because he obviously knows of the gripboard. Otherwise it (the gripboard) wouldn’t be a trigger word in the google search. And either paid Bill to sponsor my store, or offered some form of discount to members to sponsor my store. But it’s not my company. So I suppose my opinion is just that.. my opinion. Lol Edited August 29, 2021 by Tommy J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Agree, Tommy. It’s not harmful at all. It’s selling search words to the highest bidder. Google isn’t just a public service. The more desirable the word, the more people bidding. For an online-only business there are not a ton of other choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 And as mentioned, the ads are separate from the natural best results. Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawadhi Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:18 AM, DAVE101 said: You didn't answer how you know this though I don't see any public information that he still owns most of the company, and all of his photos have been removed from their website as well as GG's Social Media that I can see. I was told by someone close to them. What I was also told is, Tom also had the majority of revenue in Juji&Tom (not Jujimufu I think) YouTube page. Very strange. 5 hours ago, Tommy J. said: Ah that’s interesting. Because when I try to prove you right, here’s what comes up- I must be overlooking where grip genie pops up on like the first 4-5 pages of search results.. unlike when I type in “gripboard” and it’s the first thing that pops up. Very interesting Tommy! But what climber said is also true. It has to do with which phrases he paid for. Maybe instead of grip he used the word gripboard. Who knows. Cannon also specified something on Google ads which is true too. I searched for gripboard too and nothing showed up on grip genie. Part of the ad is the location. I am now in Boston maybe it wasn't specified here. Again, who knows? But if it is doing them good in business then be it. But it is not organic first. The highest payer will come first in ad. Hence google mentions the word Ad besides the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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