Axle to Rolling Thunder carryover

[SteveT123]

Hey Everyone, I am just curious how much would the amount of weight you can lift D.O.H. on an axle carryover to how much you can lift with the RT?? I.e. if you can lift say 300 pounds D.O.H. on an axle should you be able to get 150-170 pounds with your dominant hand on the RT ?? 

[AdamTGlass]

2 hours ago, SteveT123 said:

Hey Everyone, I am just curious how much would the amount of weight you can lift D.O.H. on an axle carryover to how much you can lift with the RT?? I.e. if you can lift say 300 pounds D.O.H. on an axle should you be able to get 150-170 pounds with your dominant hand on the RT ?? 

Not always, but it’s an ok yardstick. If someone has lady hands the rt can be lower or if they have a weak back their RT can disproportionately higher then 50% axle 

[Hubgeezer]

2 hours ago, SteveT123 said:

Hey Everyone, I am just curious how much would the amount of weight you can lift D.O.H. on an axle carryover to how much you can lift with the RT?? I.e. if you can lift say 300 pounds D.O.H. on an axle should you be able to get 150-170 pounds with your dominant hand on the RT ?? 

I agree with what Adam said.

Sixteen years ago, when I was first doing "strength movements", and not just grippers and the hub, my Rolling Thunder was disproportionately stronger than my Axle. I pulled 309 at a contest in November of 2015, and 191 on the Rolling Thunder the same day. That is, in my opinion, a better RT number than an Axle number. I cannot say I have ever successfully trained simultaneously and done well on both. When my Axle was good (for me, 330), my RT would be in the 180s. In the garage a dozen years ago, I was pulling in the very low 300s with the Axle, and well over 200 on the RT. They are not mutually exclusive exercises, but I was never at my peak on both at the same time. 

In my defense, I never did a deadlift between 1978 and 2003. Got a Reverse Hyper Machine and fixed my back in 2003. 

These days, I suck at both: Sub 300 on the Axle, and Sub 180 on the RT. I hope to be back. 

[SteveT123]

1 hour ago, AdamTGlass said:

Not always, but it’s an ok yardstick. If someone has lady hands the rt can be lower or if they have a weak back their RT can disproportionately higher then 50% axle 

Thanks Adam! Just a question though what would you define as "lady hands" would hand length or width be a greater determining factor here ?? 

[BenMorrissey]

Length is the main factor. The more secure a grip you can get around the handle, the better. That isn't to say that having long hands automatically makes you stronger at thickbar/RT, just that if your hands are small, you're going to struggle more than someone with the mechanical advantage of having a longer hand.