jvance 1,510 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Good morning from Texas. I haven't posted in a while. I was wondering how many grip guys also train submission grappling and to get opinions on things such as a grappling specific grip routine that minimizes time. Also include whether you train with the gi or no gi. I recently hit a triangle submission on a very experienced grappler using a technique that is typically done with a gi sleeve grip. I pulled it off no gi and I'm thinking my prior grip training helped me maintain wrist control with a spinning inverted movement. Anyone else have a similar experience in grappling you can attribute to grip strength? I don't have a video of my submission but I'll link an instructional so you can see what I'm talking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jvance 1,510 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 So pay attention to when he switched hands to cross grip both arms. You have to maintain that control before you roll to invert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy J. 1,376 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 @AdamTGlass 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamTGlass 2,068 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/14/2021 at 9:04 AM, jvance said: Good morning from Texas. I haven't posted in a while. I was wondering how many grip guys also train submission grappling and to get opinions on things such as a grappling specific grip routine that minimizes time. Also include whether you train with the gi or no gi. I recently hit a triangle submission on a very experienced grappler using a technique that is typically done with a gi sleeve grip. I pulled it off no gi and I'm thinking my prior grip training helped me maintain wrist control with a spinning inverted movement. Anyone else have a similar experience in grappling you can attribute to grip strength? I don't have a video of my submission but I'll link an instructional so you can see what I'm talking about. That kinda monkey biz will only work on scrubs and new guys - you don’t want to get in to a mindset of grip limited submissions - for every submission you want maximum leverage & power transfer from your spine to one tiny end of motion on their joint. Against a skilled player my grip strength can delay the opponent but I still lose the same as a weak handed guy - remember bjj is where weaker people crush stronger people it’s not about strength it’s leverage. 👍👍 where you roll at? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jvance 1,510 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2021 at 4:01 PM, AdamTGlass said: That kinda monkey biz will only work on scrubs and new guys - you don’t want to get in to a mindset of grip limited submissions - for every submission you want maximum leverage & power transfer from your spine to one tiny end of motion on their joint. Against a skilled player my grip strength can delay the opponent but I still lose the same as a weak handed guy - remember bjj is where weaker people crush stronger people it’s not about strength it’s leverage. 👍👍 where you roll at? Yes not exactly high percentage. It wasn't really planned, he went to fold pass my Z guard and put his hand through I cross gripped and inverted more as a last ditch attempt to prevent the pass. I was more surprised I caught it than he was. Not sure how I held on to that slippery grip though the roll but I'm sure years of axle DLing helped. I train at RDA Fitness and MMA in San Antonio under Brown belt Ernesto Gutierrez. The school lineage runs up to Chris Brennan who is in the Friscoe area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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