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Event Selection for Grip Sport Contests - Where to Draw the Line?


Eric Roussin

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5 minutes ago, WestSlope said:

I think to be relatively safe a person could start his/her finger training with 8-10 second holds for sets of 8-10 with about a minute between goes. Establish the 3-5 second max and make that the stopping point for the comp. This is a pretty standard recommendation for climbers starting a simple hangboard phase. Stopping at a weight that you *know* is your 5 sec max should keep your hands out of danger.

You know the event is coming so train for it and NEVER max until you are well seasoned.

I actually spoke to Chris rice. He invented the tips tester and never intended people to max on it. He intended it as training tool for high reps and holds for conditioning. Obviously climbers already have that conditioning based on their training but the average person who doesn’t climb won’t 

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3 minutes ago, WestSlope said:

I think to be relatively safe a person could start his/her finger training with 8-10 second holds for sets of 8-10 with about a minute between goes. Establish the 3-5 second max and make that the stopping point for the comp. This is a pretty standard recommendation for climbers starting a simple hangboard phase. Stopping at a weight that you *know* is your 5 sec max should keep your hands out of danger.

You know the event is coming so train for it and NEVER max until you are well seasoned.

This is exactly why I would say nothing is dangerous. It's not like you receive a phone call and have to go compete in 5 minutes, you typically have months to prepare. That's plenty of time to build up neglected tissues and at least have a respectable lift while still not ever pulling a true max. 

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1 minute ago, Climber028 said:

This is exactly why I would say nothing is dangerous. It's not like you receive a phone call and have to go compete in 5 minutes, you typically have months to prepare. That's plenty of time to build up neglected tissues and at least have a respectable lift while still not ever pulling a true max. 

You cant condition tendons in a couple months. Yes you can make progress but significant soft tissue conditioning takes time and what about the new people who come to competitions to try it for the first time. Many won’t have the knowledge that was required for an obscure lift 

 

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3 minutes ago, WestSlope said:

I am surprised you are the first to bring up the axle DL in this discussion! I love the lift, but it is farther from a grip event than the fingery lifts we are discussing.

I invented the Tips Tester to try to make a fat bar (Axle) type event that didn't favor hand size back when that was a big thing.  So I thought it was relevant to the discussion.  I actually came up with the idea for training for climbing  not really thinking about a Grip Sport "event" at the time.

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10 minutes ago, WestSlope said:

Agree 100%. We would have to decide the finger type lifts are an important facet of hand strength and train in a relatively safe manner.

@Climber028 has it well written below.

But right now we have maxes in comps. Lighter weights would be safer and no offense to mike I weigh double what he does and have years of weight lifting experience so my body can lift way more than him but I don’t have his climbing conditioning so my pulleys aren’t as developed and this leads to a super high risk of injury for me ( and other guys with strong bodies without pulley conditioning) cause I can easily over power my pulley  

 

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1 minute ago, WestSlope said:

The tips lifts have no place in a beginner's comp. I am advocating for an event like Nationals or North American Championship.

Right now it can be in any competition though and we really can’t ban anything. But promoters should think about this kind of stuff 

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7 minutes ago, WestSlope said:

I have eaten myself out of climbing for now, so I can't comment whether it would be useful for training for climbing. Myself and several others find it key for rolling handle training. So, thanks for that. 😀

What did you weigh at your climbing best and what do you weigh now days?  

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Since one of the biggest hurdles to a gripper event is having a good table of grippers, a reminder that CPW has a full set of IronMind grippers every 5 lbs from 55 to 220. Promoters can reserve and use the set for free.  We even pay shipping. 

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46 minutes ago, Chez said:

You cant condition tendons in a couple months. Yes you can make progress but significant soft tissue conditioning takes time and what about the new people who come to competitions to try it for the first time. Many won’t have the knowledge that was required for an obscure lift 

 

So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. 

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6 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. 

And mike yes I agree with you but I know you are aware of pulleys and crimp grip etc from your years of climbing but not many people climb. The vast majority of people don’t even know what finger pulleys are. When I injured mine I had to explain what it is to pretty much everyone outside of this community. Hell, I didn’t know what a pulley was until this community recently. The regular person will not ever know they have to hold back. Less than 200 lbs on a hand tip tester hurt me. 200 lbs isn’t a lot of weight for someone my size so the risk wasn’t even apparent. Now if we are deadlifting and I walk up to a huge loaded bar the risk there is very apparent cause it’s a super common activity and everyone knows you can hurt yourself when going for a max on a powerlift 

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10 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. 

And yes people go over event rules but I have never seen any promoter give warnings about pulley injures and the risk those events have for them at a comp and how to mitigate those risk with lifting techniques. you are relatively new to the community. I have been to way more comps and I have never seen it discussed at a comp. going over event rules is not the same  

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1 hour ago, WestSlope said:

The tips lifts have no place in a beginner's comp. I am advocating for an event like Nationals or North American Championship.

Steve, this is a very good comment. I would never want the Tips Tester to be removed from the NAGS Championship- That was the one of the events (I like it) that made me entertain the idea of battling my fear of flying.  Also, it will be contested 2 Hands, which disperses the load more, IMO than one hand TT. I have used the TT off and on for close to 4 years and have used it only once 1 handed.

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32 minutes ago, Chez said:

And yes people go over event rules but I have never seen any promoter give warnings about pulley injures and the risk those events have for them at a comp and how to mitigate those risk with lifting techniques. you are relatively new to the community. I have been to way more comps and I have never seen it discussed at a comp. going over event rules is not the same  

But there's no reason that can't happen. Usually it's less official and just competitors amongst each other giving advice but there's nothing stopping us from making a list of "dangerous" implements and writing up a little warning to be used before competing. 

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Just now, Climber028 said:

But there's no reason that can't happen. Usually it's less official and just competitors amongst each other giving advice but there's nothing stopping us from making a list of "dangerous" implements and writing up a little warning to be used before competing. 

But that is the problem, we aren’t very organized. Right now anyone with welding ability can make something and it becomes an event and anyone can be a promoter. In other strength sports they are better organized with governing bodies etc and requirements to run events. Our sport is very young 

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14 minutes ago, Chez said:

But that is the problem, we aren’t very organized. Right now anyone with welding ability can make something and it becomes an event and anyone can be a promoter. In other strength sports they are better organized with governing bodies etc and requirements to run events. Our sport is very young 

We're not very young as a sport at all - I first competed in 2003 and things were being done before that.  But Yes we have no organization or governing body.  We kicked this around (and around and around) years ago.  It takes money, interest, and that one guy or group willing to do all the work to start anything that would be considered a "governing body".  None of which exist now.  It's a niche sport and may always be.  The problems of equipment alone would take serious money to ensure absolute fairness around all the venues in all the different countries.  So we have what we have - there are things we can do (not me but you all) as far as writing up and distributing training information and especially competition information.  Think about the cost of a competition set of Eleiko etc bar and plates to ensure total fairness anywhere in the world - now figure what something like a Euro might cost if it had to be hard chromed (one way to ensure consistency) and exact weights for the entire apparatus - and no I'm not suggesting that at all.  But seasoning is one of many issues facing absolutely fair comparisons from north to south to east to west.  But we also have no dues or fees to a parent body - but no insurance covering promoters etc.  When you really start thinking it through it's a HUGE undertaking. 

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4 minutes ago, climber511 said:

We're not very young as a sport at all - I first competed in 2003 and things were being done before that.  But Yes we have no organization or governing body.  We kicked this around (and around and around) years ago.  It takes money, interest, and that one guy or group willing to do all the work to start anything that would be considered a "governing body".  None of which exist now.  It's a niche sport and may always be.  The problems of equipment alone would take serious money to ensure absolute fairness around all the venues in all the different countries.  So we have what we have - there are things we can do (not me but you all) as far as writing up and distributing training information and especially competition information.  Think about the cost of a competition set of Eleiko etc bar and plates to ensure total fairness anywhere in the world - now figure what something like a Euro might cost if it had to be hard chromed (one way to ensure consistency) and exact weights for the entire apparatus - and no I'm not suggesting that at all.  But seasoning is one of many issues facing absolutely fair comparisons from north to south to east to west.  But we also have no dues or fees to a parent body - but no insurance covering promoters etc.  When you really start thinking it through it's a HUGE undertaking. 

And  I agree with all that and have often discussed it. You don’t know who is really the strongest until you get everyone at one location on the same apparatus and for that reason it will always be niche. Plus the billion events, it will never be mainstream. Hell, many of those lifts on thE nags site are questionable since anyone can run and judge a competiton. 

That why I believe that people really need to think about the events they pick since this is all for fun and not worth crazy risk 

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Doesn't matter how young we are or disorganized because the competitions run by GSI have to be sanctioned, and a little safety speech can be part of that process a coordinator goes through to gain sanctioning. I also think as an adult you have a right to take an educated risk and then injure yourself. 

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6 hours ago, climber511 said:

At the Last Gripmas Carol in 2018 I did the following that would be 70 to 79 year old 93K weight class Masters Records.

20MM Block Set gripper - 125#

DH Euro Pinch - 217.33# for the same class record.   On extra attempts I did 232.33# (just information - didn't count as a record - just made me feel good LOL)

IM Axle DO DL - 336.54# for the same class record

For the first time ever I beat Andrew Durniant in the Medley

Also not a record but made FBBC list was a FBBC 2 3/8" Axle DO DL of 308# - just bragging at this point.  :) 

Sorry to get off topic on the "safety" thread of certain events.

 

I took a look. These three lifts are in the database and appropriately tagged to the men's 70-79 years, 93 kg class. However, the 232.33 Euro lift is the one that was entered. If this needs to be corrected, just let me know.

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1 hour ago, Eric Roussin said:

I took a look. These three lifts are in the database and appropriately tagged to the men's 70-79 years, 93 kg class. However, the 232.33 Euro lift is the one that was entered. If this needs to be corrected, just let me know.

Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list?   I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro.  Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please?  As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record

18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

235.78lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69  
19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

234.33lbs

USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+  
20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

233.91lbs

FC 2011 Open  
21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.91lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.27lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k  
23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

232.43lbs

IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k  
24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.93lbs

GMAS 2009 Open  
25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.62lbs

GGC 2011 Open  
26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

231.49lbs

WSH-E 2011 Open  
27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

230.8lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany
 

230.34lbs

GGN19 2019 Mens 105k  
29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

228.4lbs

FC 2011 Open  
30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

226.86lbs

ETC 2010 Open **
31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

CGC 2010 Open  
32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

LaJ 2009 Open  
33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden
 

223.55lbs

NGC III 2007 Open  
34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine
 

223.11lbs

CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+  
35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223lbs

IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k  
36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.64lbs

CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k  
37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.2lbs

MM3 2011 Open  
38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
http://www.gripsport.org/Images/star-blue_small.png

221.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k  
39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

221.5lbs

AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+  
40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia
 

221.43lbs

WSH-AU 2011 Open  
41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

221.23lbs

SC2018 2018 Mens 120k  
42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

221.17lbs

NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k  
43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales
 

221.12lbs

IG 2004 Open  
44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

220.57lbs

TU 2014 Mens 120k+  
45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 105k  
46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 120k+  
47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

220.35lbs

CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k  
48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

218.74lbs

IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k  
49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.76lbs

AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+  
50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k

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6 minutes ago, climber511 said:

Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list?   I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro.  Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please?  As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record

18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

235.78lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69  
19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

234.33lbs

USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+  
20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

233.91lbs

FC 2011 Open  
21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.91lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.27lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k  
23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

232.43lbs

IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k  
24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.93lbs

GMAS 2009 Open  
25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.62lbs

GGC 2011 Open  
26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

231.49lbs

WSH-E 2011 Open  
27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

230.8lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany
 

230.34lbs

GGN19 2019 Mens 105k  
29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

228.4lbs

FC 2011 Open  
30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

226.86lbs

ETC 2010 Open **
31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

CGC 2010 Open  
32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

LaJ 2009 Open  
33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden
 

223.55lbs

NGC III 2007 Open  
34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine
 

223.11lbs

CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+  
35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223lbs

IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k  
36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.64lbs

CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k  
37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.2lbs

MM3 2011 Open  
38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA

221.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k  
39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

221.5lbs

AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+  
40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia
 

221.43lbs

WSH-AU 2011 Open  
41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

221.23lbs

SC2018 2018 Mens 120k  
42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

221.17lbs

NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k  
43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales
 

221.12lbs

IG 2004 Open  
44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

220.57lbs

TU 2014 Mens 120k+  
45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 105k  
46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 120k+  
47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

220.35lbs

CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k  
48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

218.74lbs

IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k  
49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.76lbs

AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+  
50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k

This particular list will show your best ever lift. The 235.78. It will not display multiple entries for a single competitor - just the best result. However, if you choose the weight class view, rather than the top 50 view, you'll see both your 60-69 lift and your 70-79 lift.

 

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Thanks Eric - once again I am defeated by the simplest of technology  :) 

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4 hours ago, climber511 said:

Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list?   I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro.  Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please?  As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record

18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

235.78lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69  
19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

234.33lbs

USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+  
20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

233.91lbs

FC 2011 Open  
21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.91lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

233.27lbs

GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k  
23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

232.43lbs

IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k  
24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.93lbs

GMAS 2009 Open  
25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

231.62lbs

GGC 2011 Open  
26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

231.49lbs

WSH-E 2011 Open  
27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

230.8lbs

RCGC 2011 Open  
28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany
 

230.34lbs

GGN19 2019 Mens 105k  
29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

228.4lbs

FC 2011 Open  
30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

226.86lbs

ETC 2010 Open **
31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

CGC 2010 Open  
32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223.77lbs

LaJ 2009 Open  
33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden
 

223.55lbs

NGC III 2007 Open  
34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine
 

223.11lbs

CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+  
35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

223lbs

IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k  
36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.64lbs

CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k  
37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

222.2lbs

MM3 2011 Open  
38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA

221.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k  
39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland
 

221.5lbs

AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+  
40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia
 

221.43lbs

WSH-AU 2011 Open  
41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

221.23lbs

SC2018 2018 Mens 120k  
42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

221.17lbs

NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k  
43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales
 

221.12lbs

IG 2004 Open  
44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England
 

220.57lbs

TU 2014 Mens 120k+  
45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 105k  
46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

220.55lbs

HGG 2018 Mens 120k+  
47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada
 

220.35lbs

CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k  
48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia
 

218.74lbs

IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k  
49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.76lbs

AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+  
50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA
 

216.52lbs

GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k

Forgive me for getting any further off topic, but I just wanted to say that Chris! Daaaang I forgot how strong you pinched!

I now remember how many of the top 50 guys on pinch that you coached personally on to the list. After only like 1-2 sessions no less! Kody being one of them!

btw what was your BW on the 235.78 pinch?? Light (like close to 200lbs) if memory serves?

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4 hours ago, Tommy J. said:

Forgive me for getting any further off topic, but I just wanted to say that Chris! Daaaang I forgot how strong you pinched!

I now remember how many of the top 50 guys on pinch that you coached personally on to the list. After only like 1-2 sessions no less! Kody being one of them!

btw what was your BW on the 235.78 pinch?? Light (like close to 200lbs) if memory serves?

Thanks Tommy.  I don't remember exactly my BW but within a couple pounds of 200# either way.  I probably "studied" the Euro as much if not more than anyone except maybe Jedd or Aaron.  I really enjoy coaching people on it and never failed to improve anyone who visited for coaching. Sometimes pretty dramatically - like in Kody's case - but he's a freak (in a good way).

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22 hours ago, WestSlope said:

I moved best in the mountains and sport climbed the best at about 175-180. I am a miserable 224 today. I was bouldering and sport climbing for years at about 190 up to 12c and V8.

Sounds like you spent a lot of time with a fork in your hand :)

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