Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WestSlope said: I think to be relatively safe a person could start his/her finger training with 8-10 second holds for sets of 8-10 with about a minute between goes. Establish the 3-5 second max and make that the stopping point for the comp. This is a pretty standard recommendation for climbers starting a simple hangboard phase. Stopping at a weight that you *know* is your 5 sec max should keep your hands out of danger. You know the event is coming so train for it and NEVER max until you are well seasoned. I actually spoke to Chris rice. He invented the tips tester and never intended people to max on it. He intended it as training tool for high reps and holds for conditioning. Obviously climbers already have that conditioning based on their training but the average person who doesn’t climb won’t Edited December 3, 2020 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, WestSlope said: I think to be relatively safe a person could start his/her finger training with 8-10 second holds for sets of 8-10 with about a minute between goes. Establish the 3-5 second max and make that the stopping point for the comp. This is a pretty standard recommendation for climbers starting a simple hangboard phase. Stopping at a weight that you *know* is your 5 sec max should keep your hands out of danger. You know the event is coming so train for it and NEVER max until you are well seasoned. This is exactly why I would say nothing is dangerous. It's not like you receive a phone call and have to go compete in 5 minutes, you typically have months to prepare. That's plenty of time to build up neglected tissues and at least have a respectable lift while still not ever pulling a true max. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Climber028 said: This is exactly why I would say nothing is dangerous. It's not like you receive a phone call and have to go compete in 5 minutes, you typically have months to prepare. That's plenty of time to build up neglected tissues and at least have a respectable lift while still not ever pulling a true max. You cant condition tendons in a couple months. Yes you can make progress but significant soft tissue conditioning takes time and what about the new people who come to competitions to try it for the first time. Many won’t have the knowledge that was required for an obscure lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, WestSlope said: I am surprised you are the first to bring up the axle DL in this discussion! I love the lift, but it is farther from a grip event than the fingery lifts we are discussing. I invented the Tips Tester to try to make a fat bar (Axle) type event that didn't favor hand size back when that was a big thing. So I thought it was relevant to the discussion. I actually came up with the idea for training for climbing not really thinking about a Grip Sport "event" at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WestSlope said: Agree 100%. We would have to decide the finger type lifts are an important facet of hand strength and train in a relatively safe manner. @Climber028 has it well written below. But right now we have maxes in comps. Lighter weights would be safer and no offense to mike I weigh double what he does and have years of weight lifting experience so my body can lift way more than him but I don’t have his climbing conditioning so my pulleys aren’t as developed and this leads to a super high risk of injury for me ( and other guys with strong bodies without pulley conditioning) cause I can easily over power my pulley Edited December 3, 2020 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, WestSlope said: The tips lifts have no place in a beginner's comp. I am advocating for an event like Nationals or North American Championship. Right now it can be in any competition though and we really can’t ban anything. But promoters should think about this kind of stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, WestSlope said: I have eaten myself out of climbing for now, so I can't comment whether it would be useful for training for climbing. Myself and several others find it key for rolling handle training. So, thanks for that. What did you weigh at your climbing best and what do you weigh now days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Since one of the biggest hurdles to a gripper event is having a good table of grippers, a reminder that CPW has a full set of IronMind grippers every 5 lbs from 55 to 220. Promoters can reserve and use the set for free. We even pay shipping. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Chez said: You cant condition tendons in a couple months. Yes you can make progress but significant soft tissue conditioning takes time and what about the new people who come to competitions to try it for the first time. Many won’t have the knowledge that was required for an obscure lift So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Climber028 said: So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. And mike yes I agree with you but I know you are aware of pulleys and crimp grip etc from your years of climbing but not many people climb. The vast majority of people don’t even know what finger pulleys are. When I injured mine I had to explain what it is to pretty much everyone outside of this community. Hell, I didn’t know what a pulley was until this community recently. The regular person will not ever know they have to hold back. Less than 200 lbs on a hand tip tester hurt me. 200 lbs isn’t a lot of weight for someone my size so the risk wasn’t even apparent. Now if we are deadlifting and I walk up to a huge loaded bar the risk there is very apparent cause it’s a super common activity and everyone knows you can hurt yourself when going for a max on a powerlift Edited December 3, 2020 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Climber028 said: So just have a short speech for new people before starting, we take time to go over rules anyways and this is no different. I'm aware that tendons can't completely remodel in months which is why I said work up to a respectable lift and never approach a 1 rep max, and then keep not doing a max even in the competition. If someone lifts more than me because I settle for a low weight and am afraid of injury, they deserve to beat me. And yes people go over event rules but I have never seen any promoter give warnings about pulley injures and the risk those events have for them at a comp and how to mitigate those risk with lifting techniques. you are relatively new to the community. I have been to way more comps and I have never seen it discussed at a comp. going over event rules is not the same Edited December 3, 2020 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluv#0 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestSlope said: The tips lifts have no place in a beginner's comp. I am advocating for an event like Nationals or North American Championship. Steve, this is a very good comment. I would never want the Tips Tester to be removed from the NAGS Championship- That was the one of the events (I like it) that made me entertain the idea of battling my fear of flying. Also, it will be contested 2 Hands, which disperses the load more, IMO than one hand TT. I have used the TT off and on for close to 4 years and have used it only once 1 handed. Edited December 3, 2020 by Kluv#0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Chez said: And yes people go over event rules but I have never seen any promoter give warnings about pulley injures and the risk those events have for them at a comp and how to mitigate those risk with lifting techniques. you are relatively new to the community. I have been to way more comps and I have never seen it discussed at a comp. going over event rules is not the same But there's no reason that can't happen. Usually it's less official and just competitors amongst each other giving advice but there's nothing stopping us from making a list of "dangerous" implements and writing up a little warning to be used before competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Climber028 said: But there's no reason that can't happen. Usually it's less official and just competitors amongst each other giving advice but there's nothing stopping us from making a list of "dangerous" implements and writing up a little warning to be used before competing. But that is the problem, we aren’t very organized. Right now anyone with welding ability can make something and it becomes an event and anyone can be a promoter. In other strength sports they are better organized with governing bodies etc and requirements to run events. Our sport is very young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chez said: But that is the problem, we aren’t very organized. Right now anyone with welding ability can make something and it becomes an event and anyone can be a promoter. In other strength sports they are better organized with governing bodies etc and requirements to run events. Our sport is very young We're not very young as a sport at all - I first competed in 2003 and things were being done before that. But Yes we have no organization or governing body. We kicked this around (and around and around) years ago. It takes money, interest, and that one guy or group willing to do all the work to start anything that would be considered a "governing body". None of which exist now. It's a niche sport and may always be. The problems of equipment alone would take serious money to ensure absolute fairness around all the venues in all the different countries. So we have what we have - there are things we can do (not me but you all) as far as writing up and distributing training information and especially competition information. Think about the cost of a competition set of Eleiko etc bar and plates to ensure total fairness anywhere in the world - now figure what something like a Euro might cost if it had to be hard chromed (one way to ensure consistency) and exact weights for the entire apparatus - and no I'm not suggesting that at all. But seasoning is one of many issues facing absolutely fair comparisons from north to south to east to west. But we also have no dues or fees to a parent body - but no insurance covering promoters etc. When you really start thinking it through it's a HUGE undertaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, climber511 said: We're not very young as a sport at all - I first competed in 2003 and things were being done before that. But Yes we have no organization or governing body. We kicked this around (and around and around) years ago. It takes money, interest, and that one guy or group willing to do all the work to start anything that would be considered a "governing body". None of which exist now. It's a niche sport and may always be. The problems of equipment alone would take serious money to ensure absolute fairness around all the venues in all the different countries. So we have what we have - there are things we can do (not me but you all) as far as writing up and distributing training information and especially competition information. Think about the cost of a competition set of Eleiko etc bar and plates to ensure total fairness anywhere in the world - now figure what something like a Euro might cost if it had to be hard chromed (one way to ensure consistency) and exact weights for the entire apparatus - and no I'm not suggesting that at all. But seasoning is one of many issues facing absolutely fair comparisons from north to south to east to west. But we also have no dues or fees to a parent body - but no insurance covering promoters etc. When you really start thinking it through it's a HUGE undertaking. And I agree with all that and have often discussed it. You don’t know who is really the strongest until you get everyone at one location on the same apparatus and for that reason it will always be niche. Plus the billion events, it will never be mainstream. Hell, many of those lifts on thE nags site are questionable since anyone can run and judge a competiton. That why I believe that people really need to think about the events they pick since this is all for fun and not worth crazy risk Edited December 3, 2020 by Chez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climber028 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Doesn't matter how young we are or disorganized because the competitions run by GSI have to be sanctioned, and a little safety speech can be part of that process a coordinator goes through to gain sanctioning. I also think as an adult you have a right to take an educated risk and then injure yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 hours ago, climber511 said: At the Last Gripmas Carol in 2018 I did the following that would be 70 to 79 year old 93K weight class Masters Records. 20MM Block Set gripper - 125# DH Euro Pinch - 217.33# for the same class record. On extra attempts I did 232.33# (just information - didn't count as a record - just made me feel good LOL) IM Axle DO DL - 336.54# for the same class record For the first time ever I beat Andrew Durniant in the Medley Also not a record but made FBBC list was a FBBC 2 3/8" Axle DO DL of 308# - just bragging at this point. Sorry to get off topic on the "safety" thread of certain events. I took a look. These three lifts are in the database and appropriately tagged to the men's 70-79 years, 93 kg class. However, the 232.33 Euro lift is the one that was entered. If this needs to be corrected, just let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Eric Roussin said: I took a look. These three lifts are in the database and appropriately tagged to the men's 70-79 years, 93 kg class. However, the 232.33 Euro lift is the one that was entered. If this needs to be corrected, just let me know. Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list? I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro. Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please? As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record 18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 235.78lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69 19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 234.33lbs USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+ 20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 233.91lbs FC 2011 Open 21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.91lbs RCGC 2011 Open 22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.27lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k 23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 232.43lbs IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k 24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.93lbs GMAS 2009 Open 25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.62lbs GGC 2011 Open 26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 231.49lbs WSH-E 2011 Open 27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 230.8lbs RCGC 2011 Open 28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany 230.34lbs GGN19 2019 Mens 105k 29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 228.4lbs FC 2011 Open 30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 226.86lbs ETC 2010 Open ** 31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs CGC 2010 Open 32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs LaJ 2009 Open 33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden 223.55lbs NGC III 2007 Open 34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine 223.11lbs CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+ 35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223lbs IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k 36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.64lbs CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k 37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.2lbs MM3 2011 Open 38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA http://www.gripsport.org/Images/star-blue_small.png 221.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k 39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 221.5lbs AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+ 40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia 221.43lbs WSH-AU 2011 Open 41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 221.23lbs SC2018 2018 Mens 120k 42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 221.17lbs NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k 43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales 221.12lbs IG 2004 Open 44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 220.57lbs TU 2014 Mens 120k+ 45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 105k 46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 120k+ 47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 220.35lbs CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k 48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 218.74lbs IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k 49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.76lbs AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+ 50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, climber511 said: Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list? I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro. Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please? As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record 18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 235.78lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69 19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 234.33lbs USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+ 20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 233.91lbs FC 2011 Open 21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.91lbs RCGC 2011 Open 22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.27lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k 23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 232.43lbs IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k 24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.93lbs GMAS 2009 Open 25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.62lbs GGC 2011 Open 26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 231.49lbs WSH-E 2011 Open 27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 230.8lbs RCGC 2011 Open 28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany 230.34lbs GGN19 2019 Mens 105k 29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 228.4lbs FC 2011 Open 30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 226.86lbs ETC 2010 Open ** 31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs CGC 2010 Open 32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs LaJ 2009 Open 33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden 223.55lbs NGC III 2007 Open 34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine 223.11lbs CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+ 35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223lbs IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k 36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.64lbs CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k 37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.2lbs MM3 2011 Open 38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA http://www.gripsport.org/Images/star-blue_small.png 221.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k 39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 221.5lbs AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+ 40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia 221.43lbs WSH-AU 2011 Open 41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 221.23lbs SC2018 2018 Mens 120k 42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 221.17lbs NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k 43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales 221.12lbs IG 2004 Open 44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 220.57lbs TU 2014 Mens 120k+ 45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 105k 46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 120k+ 47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 220.35lbs CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k 48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 218.74lbs IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k 49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.76lbs AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+ 50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k - This particular list will show your best ever lift. The 235.78. It will not display multiple entries for a single competitor - just the best result. However, if you choose the weight class view, rather than the top 50 view, you'll see both your 60-69 lift and your 70-79 lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Thanks Eric - once again I am defeated by the simplest of technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, climber511 said: Thanks but I can't see those lifts - here's what I see on the Euro - am I looking at the right list? I searched for the North American Grip Sport Top 100 list and this is what I get just on the Euro. Can you link me to what must be an updated listing please? As much as I would like the 232 lift on the list it was done as an extra attempt and the official 217.33# should be the 70-79 record 18 Chris Rice http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 235.78lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 93k, Masters 60-69 19 Jason Dingey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 234.33lbs USGRIP20 2020 Mens 120k+ 20 Juha Harju http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 233.91lbs FC 2011 Open 21 Ross Love http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.91lbs RCGC 2011 Open 22 Brent Barbe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 233.27lbs GMAS14 2014 Mens 105k 23 Alexey Tyukalov http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 232.43lbs IPP-F 2012 Mens 120k 24 Brad Ardrey http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.93lbs GMAS 2009 Open 25 Tim Struse http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 231.62lbs GGC 2011 Open 26 Rob Russell http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 231.49lbs WSH-E 2011 Open 27 Paul Knight http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 230.8lbs RCGC 2011 Open 28 Gabriel Sum http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/germany.png Germany 230.34lbs GGN19 2019 Mens 105k 29 Jouni Pakarinen http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 228.4lbs FC 2011 Open 30 Eric Milfeld http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 226.86lbs ETC 2010 Open ** 31 Parris Janusek http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs CGC 2010 Open 32 John Eaton http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223.77lbs LaJ 2009 Open 33 Dickey Oskarsson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/sweden.png Sweden 223.55lbs NGC III 2007 Open 34 Igor Kupinsky http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/ukraine.pngUkraine 223.11lbs CAGSS 2014 Mens 120k+ 35 J.L. Holdsworth http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 223lbs IPP-OH 2012 Mens 120k 36 Lucas Raymond http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.64lbs CSC2016 2016 Mens 93k 37 Seth Johnson http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 222.2lbs MM3 2011 Open 38 Bob Sundin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA http://www.gripsport.org/Images/star-blue_small.png 221.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 83k 39 Pasi Meht�l� http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/finland.png Finland 221.5lbs AP-10YA 2014 Mens 120k+ 40 David Stiff http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/australia.pngAustralia 221.43lbs WSH-AU 2011 Open 41 Derrek Cox http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 221.23lbs SC2018 2018 Mens 120k 42 Brandon Gerber http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 221.17lbs NAGSC 2015 Mens 105k 43 Dean Bolt http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/wales.png Wales 221.12lbs IG 2004 Open 44 Chris Lowe http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/greatbritain.png England 220.57lbs TU 2014 Mens 120k+ 45 Storm Chellino http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 105k 46 John Stepien http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 220.55lbs HGG 2018 Mens 120k+ 47 Eric Roussin http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/canada.pngCanada 220.35lbs CNGSC16 2016 Mens 93k 48 Ivan Beritashvili http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/russia.png Russia 218.74lbs IPP-RU 2012 Mens 93k 49 Martin Braun http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.76lbs AZCG2017 2017 Mens 120k+ 50 Josh Henze http://www.gripsport.org/Images/flags/u.s.america.png USA 216.52lbs GMAS15 2015 Mens 120k - Forgive me for getting any further off topic, but I just wanted to say that Chris! Daaaang I forgot how strong you pinched! I now remember how many of the top 50 guys on pinch that you coached personally on to the list. After only like 1-2 sessions no less! Kody being one of them! btw what was your BW on the 235.78 pinch?? Light (like close to 200lbs) if memory serves? Edited December 4, 2020 by Tommy J. Fixed some illiterate shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy J. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tommy J. said: Double post Edited December 4, 2020 by Tommy J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Tommy J. said: Forgive me for getting any further off topic, but I just wanted to say that Chris! Daaaang I forgot how strong you pinched! I now remember how many of the top 50 guys on pinch that you coached personally on to the list. After only like 1-2 sessions no less! Kody being one of them! btw what was your BW on the 235.78 pinch?? Light (like close to 200lbs) if memory serves? Thanks Tommy. I don't remember exactly my BW but within a couple pounds of 200# either way. I probably "studied" the Euro as much if not more than anyone except maybe Jedd or Aaron. I really enjoy coaching people on it and never failed to improve anyone who visited for coaching. Sometimes pretty dramatically - like in Kody's case - but he's a freak (in a good way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 22 hours ago, WestSlope said: I moved best in the mountains and sport climbed the best at about 175-180. I am a miserable 224 today. I was bouldering and sport climbing for years at about 190 up to 12c and V8. Sounds like you spent a lot of time with a fork in your hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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