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2/5

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block - Sometimes the 155 is rock hard, but with proper set it is no problem.

LH: 1 1 

RH: 1 0

CoC #3 (152) CCS - Big PR! I have always been thinking that the cert will go down on RH but maybe LH is the one to do it. Probably some close with RH, hard to see as I twist my forearm.

LH: 2 1 0 1 0 

RH: 0 0 0 0 0 

CoC #3 (152) 20 mm block - Just because I had the power today.

LH: 3 2 1

RH: 1 1 0

 

3/5

Fatgripz DL - A bit thicker bar today, maybe 30 mm or so.

120 kg x 6 6 6 6

Reverse Curls

3 set

WD2

8 set

IM EYHB

3 set

 

4/5

IM Hub - Solid at 20 kg which is the only thing that counts. First try ever on 23,75 kg, some sliding but never really took off.

LH 10 kg x 5 15 kg x 4 17,5 kg x 3 18,75 kg x 2 20 kg x 1 23,75 kg x 0 20 kg x 3

RH 10 kg x 5 15 kg x 4 17,5 kg x 3 18,75 kg x 2 20 kg x 1 1 1

 

5/5

DO - Lol still suck.

Yellow x 2

Pronation/Supination Levering

3 set

WD2

8 set

IM EYHB

3 set

 

Comments: Long time no see. Been having a odd feeling in my forearm due to the WD2 so been off bending and extensors for about 8 weeks. Been doing light workouts with an increased volume last two weeks for wrists and extensors. Oherwise training been as usual, some ups and most downs. Beside last supersession grippers been really shit, hopefully it turns now.

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6/5

IM Blockbuster - 30 kg was easy with RH, thought 32,5 kg would go up. 

LH: 10 kg x 10 15 kg x 5 20 kg x 4 25 kg x 3 27,5 kg x 2 30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 1 35 kg x 0 30 kg x 3 3

RH: 10 kg x 5 15 kg x 4 20 kg x 3 25 kg x 2 27,5 kg x 1 30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 0 30 kg x 2 1 1

 

Comments: Nope

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7/5

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block - First set before the filed #3 other sets after.

LH: 1 1 0 

RH: 1 0 0

CoC #3 (161, filed) 30 mm block - Parallel handles maybe a mm less on second set. Should it be this hard?

LH: 0 0 

RH: 0 0 

 

Comments: It really annoys me that the 161 wont close. Need to put some effort to do that close. I thought it would be no problem since the CCS has gone down a couple of times now. A bit sore since yesterday, did another 10 set of WD2. Very easy but still some volume, can for sure feel it today.

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9/5 

IM Hub - Just a quick ramp up to max lifts.

LH: 20 kg x 1 1

RH:  20 kg x 0 1

Levering, pronation/supination - Damn sore in wrist muscles, assume from the high WD2 volume last thursday.

4 set

 

Comments: Todays session was mainly go get up circulation, get recovery going and soften the body up. Went for a 30 km hike yesterday and body overall feels like a wreck. Very nice to get outdoors though and I assume the stiffness will be gone in the next day or so. I will go pretty easy until then.

 

Any inputs on how to close the gap between non-filed vs filed gripper is appreciated. I seem to have very weak final crush strength and I need to work that up. I have a variety of grippers available. At this stage I am not interested in buying new ones, though it crossed my mind that maybe a hard #3 (~160) or an light filed one is needed.

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10/5

Platecurl

3 set

 

11/5

Pronation/Supination Levering

3 set

Chins w. FG

3+2 3+2 3+2

Dumbell row w. FG

3 set

 

Comments: Body is still all over dead. Not used to this long recovery. Plan is gripper on thursday.

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12/5

IM Blockbuster - Baah, not really at my peak now.

LH: 10 kg x 10 15 kg x 5 20 kg x 5 25 kg x 4 27,5 kg x 3 30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 1 30 kg x 3 3

RH: 10 kg x 10 15 kg x 5 20 kg x 5 25 kg x 4 27,5 kg x 3 30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 0 30 kg x 0 0

Reverse curl

3 set

 

Comments: Not much, still a bit sore.

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13/5

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block

LH: 1 

RH: 1

CoC #3,5 (171) - 5-7 mm apart. Worst try ever I think. Not at all close.

LH: 0

RH: 0 

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block 

LH: 0 0

RH: 0 0

 

14/5

Tons of chins, latpulls, rowing with Fatgripz and Fatgripz Extreme

 

15/5

CoC #3 (152) 30 mm block

LH: 1 3 2 1

RH: 1 1 0 0

 

17/5

IM Hub - Stupid pr attempt and too much chasing higher weights.

LH: 20 kg x 1 21,25 kg x 1 23,75 kg x 0 21,25 kg x 1 1 20 kg x 2

RH:  20 kg x 1 21,25 kg x 1 21,25 kg x 0 1 20 kg x 2

 

Comments: Really needed that day off. Tremendous difference in upper body, feeling pretty good now in body. Maybe I should have taken another gripday off, not sure if hands are ready yet. 

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18/5

CoC #3 (152) 30 mm block - Hell yeah! Finally some accumulated gains after many turkey sessions. 

LH: 2 2 2 2 4 4

RH: 2 2 0 2 3 2

Dynamic Pinch

3 set

Extensors IMEYHB

3 set

WD2

5 set

 

Comments: All in on the grippers. Other exercises is mainly to still the addiction and get some pump. Very easy.

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19/5

IM Blockbuster - Stupid! Didn't plan to do any grip today and absolutely no fails.

LH: 20 kg x 5 25 kg x 4 30 kg x 1 35 kg x 0 30 kg x 3 3

RH: 20 kg x 5 25 kg x 3 30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 0 30 kg x 1 1

DO - Pretty easy. Long time ago, I'm still not close to 2 full bending sessions a week.

Yellow x 2

 

Comments: Felt good. Trying to go heavy without completely burn my self. 

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20/5

Some sets of chins, curls and rowing with Fatgripz and Fatgripz Extreme

DU - Yellow went easy but blue was like hitting a wall. Not very much kink. 

Yellow x 1

Blue x 0

 

Comments: Resting tomorrow and hopefully heavy grippers on Saturday.

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22/5

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block - Completely lost it with RH. I resetting the gripper maybe 5 times before actually attempting the close but it still doesn't really feels good. Just by eye measure I realize that my 155 is wider than my 152. The question is if the 155 is wide or the 152 is narrow.

LH: 1 1 1

RH: 1 0 0

CoC #3 (152) 30 mm block - Sometimes my pinkie "locks" so I just abort the attempt. 2 zeros due to this today. 

LH: 2 2 0 2 1

RH: 2 2 1 0 0

 

23/5

IM Hub - Too bad on the 22,5 kg, got it maybe halfway. Solid on 20 kg so feels ok.

LH: 20 kg x 1 22,5 kg x 0 21,25 kg x 1 1 1 1 1

RH:  20 kg x 1 21,25 kg x 1 0 20 kg x 1 1 1

Row w. FGX - Just to get some thick bar training.

3 set

Reverse - Have not done reverse with a real bar for close to a year so pretty comfortable with the result. Didn't got a protactor (measuring device?) so not sure how far the bends were. Killed the yellow, not sure of first blue, barely kink on second blue.

Yellow x 1

Blue x 1 0

 

Comments: A bit disappointed on the grippers, was expecting some more reps. Getting some stupids thoughts on the MM1, but atm I'm trying not to diverse my focus too much.

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Forgot the FGX stuff.
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26/5

CoC #3 (155) - Very solid with LH. Ok with RH, did miss a couple of sets. Last set with my 152. Couldn't find my block, too bad if it's lost.

LH: 2 2 2 2 2 3

RH: 1 1 1 0 0 2

CoC #2 (107) - I usually don't track what I do with my #2 but for sure I have never done 40 reps before. 

LH: 25 15

RH: 40 25

 

Comments: The irony when you feel well trained and body gets completely killed by digging a hole for an apple tree. Hands felt really bad today, was about to skip grippers. There is no logic here, my best sessions seems to come when I feel really bad or just had a previous session.

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27/5

IM Hub - Should have rested.

LH: 20 kg x 1 1 17,5 kg x 5 5

RH:  20 kg x 1 0 17,5 kg x 4 3

 

28/5

Reverse - All to 90* pretty easy.

Yellow x 3

 

Comments: Fingers and thumbpad still very sore. Maybe grippers tomorrow. I would really like to replicate Wednesday's session.

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29/5

CoC #3 (161, filed) - First try was as close to close as it gets without actually close it. Couldn't see but no click or heafty stop so assuming it was not really there. Less than 1 mm. Second try not so good last try better.

LH: 0 0 0

RH: 0 0 0 

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block - Not so good.

LH: 0 1 0

RH: 0 1 0

CoC #3 (152) 20 mm block - Good since 155 was fail.

LH: 3 4 4

RH: 3 3 3

 

30/5

DU

Yellow x 1

Blue x 0

Reverse

Blue x 0

 

31/5

IM Hub - Not my usual loading pin so added another 1,25 kg extra to make it more like my own pin.

LH: 21,25 kg x 1 1 1

RH:  21,25 kg x 1 1 0

 

Reverse - Getting there. Reverse style actually feels best at the moment.

Yellow x 3

 

Comments: So damn close on the filed #3. The shitty 155 tries compensated by pretty descent 152 reps. Trying to get some bending progress but still the same bars as one year ago. Will I ever get past a blue nail?

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Can you post any videos of your bending? Maybe your technique is bad. As far as I'm concerned you should be able to reverse and DU a blue easily just from your crush strength alone.

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On 6/1/2021 at 12:08 PM, Fist of Fury said:

Can you post any videos of your bending? Maybe your technique is bad. As far as I'm concerned you should be able to reverse and DU a blue easily just from your crush strength alone.

Ordered a tripod for the phone yesterday which will arrive in next week. One excuse less to don't put up some videos. Of course I should have done that a year ago. In general I can take down the blue nail, but it is on cost of the form and I just assume I will not be able to bend bigger steel with that horrible technique.

For DO the blue is not really a problem. If I lower the bar from under my shin to my chest and place the hands on my chest I can bend it. But it is mainly due to my crush strength not my wrists. It is hard but possible but also miles away from the technique suggested in different videos.

For DU blue is possible when I get to some infant like position folding my upper body. The bar tends to end below my waist. This might also be considered some kind of braced bending.

For reverse the bar just feels to small, and I sometimes end up bending it over my hand. I just don't think that is the way to do it. 

I guess a movie will explain much better. Hold on I´ll get there.

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1/6

CoC #3 (152) 30 mm block - Completely lost the set on RH.

LH: 3 3 3 2

RH: 3 1 0 2

 

2/6

Plate pinch (2 x 20 kg) - No air and not even close.

LH: 0 0 0

RH: 0 0 0

Wristroller

3 set

Reverse - Should have gone for a blue but timed out.

Yellow x 2

 

Comments: Not much, pretty ok. If I recall correct I did get air under the 2 x 20 kg plate pinch last autumn. Too bad with reverse progress.

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3 hours ago, Weakman said:

Ordered a tripod for the phone yesterday which will arrive in next week. One excuse less to don't put up some videos. Of course I should have done that a year ago. In general I can take down the blue nail, but it is on cost of the form and I just assume I will not be able to bend bigger steel with that horrible technique.

For DO the blue is not really a problem. If I lower the bar from under my shin to my chest and place the hands on my chest I can bend it. But it is mainly due to my crush strength not my wrists. It is hard but possible but also miles away from the technique suggested in different videos.

For DU blue is possible when I get to some infant like position folding my upper body. The bar tends to end below my waist. This might also be considered some kind of braced bending.

For reverse the bar just feels to small, and I sometimes end up bending it over my hand. I just don't think that is the way to do it. 

I guess a movie will explain much better. Hold on I´ll get there.

If you bend DO with wrist torque you should be more than capable of doing it reverse and DU since radial deviation is weaker than ulnar deviation.

DO is not really a torque style of bending it's more about compression as far as the hands are concerned. Once you grasp that concept and get a feeling for it you will progress fast.

You're correct about the waist level, bar needs to be above waist level at all times in unbraced bending. Unless the rules states something else.

Try moving the pads out a bit further toward the ends if the bar feels too small for reverse bending.

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On 6/2/2021 at 4:06 PM, Fist of Fury said:

If you bend DO with wrist torque you should be more than capable of doing it reverse and DU since radial deviation is weaker than ulnar deviation.

DO is not really a torque style of bending it's more about compression as far as the hands are concerned. Once you grasp that concept and get a feeling for it you will progress fast.

You're correct about the waist level, bar needs to be above waist level at all times in unbraced bending. Unless the rules states something else.

Try moving the pads out a bit further toward the ends if the bar feels too small for reverse bending.

Maybe I overthink because I really try to hit wrists even though it feel much easier just to bend the bar out of rage rather than thinking of form. However, of what I´ve red, to get bigger steel form should be high priority to get things settled.

 

I usually do move the pads outwards when I have a bad day just to get some bends. But over time I dont think it is good because, depending on bending style, I feel like I'm gonna snap either pinkie, index finger or no mans land between thumb and index finger.

 

Thanks for the tips man, appreciate it!

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5/6

CoC #3.5 (171) - Pretty good attemps, second LH was best ever I think. I will try to keep track of an estimated gap between handles to see if I'm getting closer. Will go for bi-weekly 3.5 attempts for some weeks now if nothing gets in between. Measured just by eye during close.

LH: 0 0 0 (2-3, 1-2, <5)

RH: 0 0 0 (2-3, 3-4, <5)

CoC #3 (155) 30 mm block - Not so good, again.

LH: 0 1 0

RH: 0 1 0

CoC #3 (152) - Lol, 6 reps?

LH: 4 1 

RH: 6 4

 

6/6

IM Hub - Not my usual loading pin so added another 1,25 kg extra to make it more like my own pin.

LH: 20 kg x 1 1 1 1 1

RH:  20 kg x 1 1 0 0 1

 

7/6

IM Blockbuster - A couple of weeks ago since last time. Seems to be some kind of baseline.

30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 1 35 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 1 30 kg x 1

30 kg x 1 32,5 kg x 0 30 kg x 0 1 1

Comments: Did some bending on friday but don't remember exactly what I did. Some yellows and no blues. Really keen on the grippers now, hopefully either the 161 or the 171 will go down shortly. Lol, I was thinking the same around christmas but someday it's gonna happend.

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1 hour ago, Weakman said:

Maybe I overthink because I really try to hit wrists even though it feel much easier just to bend the bar out of rage rather than thinking of form. However, of what I´ve red, to get bigger steel form should be high priority to get things settled.

 

I usually do move the pads outwards when I have a bad day just to get some bends. But over time I dont think it is good because, depending on bending style, I feel like I'm gonna snap either pinkie, index finger or no mans land between thumb and index finger.

 

Thanks for the tips man, appreciate it!

Yes that's true. It's easy to use the wrists only with easy steel. Once it gets harder it won't be possible anymore.
So you should use the easy steel and train technique, so that you get a really good feel for how it's done and never cheat.
Then slowly increase the difficulty. It's all about the upper body. The hands should be like a vice. You have to experiment a bit to find a good grip that suits you personally. Everyone is a bit different when it comes to the exact grip they have on the bar. It's all about feeling where you can get the most power with. Experiment where you put the wraps also. Further in means it will be a bit easier to get in a good position but the leverage will be harder. So you should try to find a sweet spot.

Once your mobility is better you'll be able to put the pads further out to gain even better leverage.

Shoulder mobility is the most important thing, if your mobility isn't good enough you will never be able to generate any power for the kink. If your mobility is bad, I'd say train mobility exercises 2-3 times a week at least. This is good for shoulder health as well so it's well invested time.

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Finding the right spot in DO bending is key, the force needs to make the bar bend not go straight in. When I got enough mobility I could find that spot I litterarly advanced from nothing to red nail.

I could have a look if you want?

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On 6/7/2021 at 11:51 AM, Fist of Fury said:

Yes that's true. It's easy to use the wrists only with easy steel. Once it gets harder it won't be possible anymore.
So you should use the easy steel and train technique, so that you get a really good feel for how it's done and never cheat.
Then slowly increase the difficulty. It's all about the upper body. The hands should be like a vice. You have to experiment a bit to find a good grip that suits you personally. Everyone is a bit different when it comes to the exact grip they have on the bar. It's all about feeling where you can get the most power with. Experiment where you put the wraps also. Further in means it will be a bit easier to get in a good position but the leverage will be harder. So you should try to find a sweet spot.

Once your mobility is better you'll be able to put the pads further out to gain even better leverage.

Shoulder mobility is the most important thing, if your mobility isn't good enough you will never be able to generate any power for the kink. If your mobility is bad, I'd say train mobility exercises 2-3 times a week at least. This is good for shoulder health as well so it's well invested time.

 

On 6/7/2021 at 1:12 PM, Lennix said:

Finding the right spot in DO bending is key, the force needs to make the bar bend not go straight in. When I got enough mobility I could find that spot I litterarly advanced from nothing to red nail.

I could have a look if you want?

Apologies guys for keeping you hanging here for a half a year, really appreciate your inputs! I did try to experimente on my setup, wrap distance, were I keep the bar and etc. but not really successful. I burnt through my 200 nails a couple of months back but I was not able to get any movement on the red nail. I also got the weakest bolt from Horrido but even If it is "beginners bar", "everyone can start here" I was only able to get a kink on it over maybe 10 sessions.

Both of you mention mobility, do you have any particular exercises och do's in mind? If I recall Lennix, you did a lot mobility training in your log, but not specifying what you actually did. Or are you consider ordinary strechting?

Did ask for a shipping quote today for another 200 nails, lets see if I can afford that and then I will pick this up again.

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1 minute ago, Weakman said:

 

Apologies guys for keeping you hanging here for a half a year, really appreciate your inputs! I did try to experimente on my setup, wrap distance, were I keep the bar and etc. but not really successful. I burnt through my 200 nails a couple of months back but I was not able to get any movement on the red nail. I also got the weakest bolt from Horrido but even If it is "beginners bar", "everyone can start here" I was only able to get a kink on it over maybe 10 sessions.

Both of you mention mobility, do you have any particular exercises och do's in mind? If I recall Lennix, you did a lot mobility training in your log, but not specifying what you actually did. Or are you consider ordinary strechting?

Did ask for a shipping quote today for another 200 nails, lets see if I can afford that and then I will pick this up again.

If it's possible I would like to see a video from you trying. Hit me up on any Facebook/Instagram (Thom Fingalsson /Thomlennix) For a chat! Where do live, perhaps there's cheaper ways for you to get training steel.

I'm trying to find a video on what I did, else I'll record it myself.

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31/12

CoC #3 (152) 20 mm block - Actually pretty happy with 3 reps, that is unfortunately vary rare these days.

LH: 1 1 2 1

RH: 2 2 3 2

 CoC #2.5 (132) 20 mm block

LH: 5 5 4

RH: 8 8 11

 

2/1

IM Hub - Solid lifts, maybe 1,25 kg increase is possible.

LH: 27,5 kg x 1 30 kg x 0

RH: 25 kg x 1 27,5 x 0

Also fatgripz chins and wristcurls, not exactly remember weights reps etc.

 

4/1

CoC #3 (152) 20 mm block - Only intended to do easy singles. RH was but LH is completely off, and has been for a while now.

LH: 1 1 1

RH: 1 1 1

CoC #2.5 (132) 20 mm block

LH: 3 4 4

RH: 8 7 6

 

5/1

DO - Haven´t bent any for some months now so just trying to find the position and get the feeling back. Red is way too hard for me but I am out of nails so this is what I can do until I can resupply.

Red x 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

 

Comments: In short since last update I have worked a lot, trained a lot but not really gained anything. I did close the Cobalt and my filed #3 rated the same at 161. It took me over 5 years and approx. 500+ sessions (!!!) to advance from my 155 #3 to 161. You should leave immediately if you are looking for progress :D

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