New BP Record

[climber511]

https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/powerlifter-will-barotti-benches-1105-pounds-for-a-new-world-record/  

 

What do you think?

[Chez]

It’s obviously a ton of weight but I would rather see hundreds of less raw being benched. I’m sure his raw bench is huge also 

[bencrush]

59 minutes ago, climber511 said:

https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/powerlifter-will-barotti-benches-1105-pounds-for-a-new-world-record/  

 

What do you think?

I have never been a fan of equipped benching records.  Those shirts were ridiculous even 20 years ago.  Now they are comical.  Some guys claim to use bench shirts so they can still bench around their injuries.  I would say to that - don't bench at all.  Problem solved.  If your shoulders are held together with bubble gum and willpower (like mine) it's a pretty simple choice to not tempt fate by putting a bunch of pressure on them from benching or bending...

[Climber028]

I've never been a fan of equipped lifting, but putting 1000 pounds over your face is quite the feat no matter what assistance you have. Especially insane when you realize this is a tad heavier than Thors recent deadlift record. I'll be the first one to laugh at some idiot in multiply barely pushing 3 plates but this is a few levels past that and still extremely impressive. 

[bencrush]

21 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

I've never been a fan of equipped lifting, but putting 1000 pounds over your face is quite the feat no matter what assistance you have. Especially insane when you realize this is a tad heavier than Thors recent deadlift record. I'll be the first one to laugh at some idiot in multiply barely pushing 3 plates but this is a few levels past that and still extremely impressive. 

I absolutely agree that it is still very impressive to push that amount of weight.  And of course he is undoubtedly super strong on raw bench too. 

I have seen fat pads unbraced steel bending compared with equipped benching.  And in a way it's accurate.  You can definitely perform a much harder bend with fat pads than without.  Where the comparison fails is the fact that with fat pads easy bars can still be bent.  The same guy who can bend a KOAB in fat pads can wrap up an IronMind White Nail a few minutes later and demolish it in the same fat pads he used for the KOAB.  Whereas the 1,115lb equipped bencher can't bench the empty bar because he can't get it to touch his chest.  In fact, it's unlikely he could get even 500lbs to touch his chest. 

[Fist of Fury]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

It’s obviously a ton of weight but I would rather see hundreds of less raw being benched. I’m sure his raw bench is huge also 

I don't know about this lifter so I'm not going to say anything about him.

But this isn't necessarily true. The very best equipped lifters usually lifts way, way above what they do raw. This is the reason they are so successful with equipment. In order to be you need to lift a stupid amount more than you do raw.

With that said, some people don't get much at all out of the shirts. And that's why those lifters never going to win anything in equipped comps.

[Climber028]

3 hours ago, Fist of Fury said:

I don't know about this lifter so I'm not going to say anything about him.

But this isn't necessarily true. The very best equipped lifters usually lifts way, way above what they do raw. This is the reason they are so successful with equipment. In order to be you need to lift a stupid amount more than you do raw.

With that said, some people don't get much at all out of the shirts. And that's why those lifters never going to win anything in equipped comps.

Sure, but he was talking about this lifter who is by definition one of the best. There's no way he doesn't have a strong raw bench, and people who don't get a benefit out of equipment are either beginner lifters, or intermediate lifters who never bothered to learn the technique of using a shirt. You can't just slap it on and set records, takes a lot of time to adjust your bar path to get the most out of the equipment. Again tho I'm still no fna and would rather see people lift unaided, but that doesn't mean this is some cake walk. 

[Fist of Fury]

4 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

Sure, but he was talking about this lifter who is by definition one of the best. There's no way he doesn't have a strong raw bench, and people who don't get a benefit out of equipment are either beginner lifters, or intermediate lifters who never bothered to learn the technique of using a shirt. You can't just slap it on and set records, takes a lot of time to adjust your bar path to get the most out of the equipment. Again tho I'm still no fna and would rather see people lift unaided, but that doesn't mean this is some cake walk. 

I wasn't saying you don't need to have a strong bench raw. And this statement from you about beginners and intermidiate lifters is not true at all.

Some people (like you) think you can just put on a bench shirt then be great at benching with it. That's not how it works. Not even all elite raw benchers can be as good with shirt (meaning elite in that as well).

 

[Climber028]

20 minutes ago, Fist of Fury said:

I wasn't saying you don't need to have a strong bench raw. And this statement from you about beginners and intermidiate lifters is not true at all.

Some people (like you) think you can just put on a bench shirt then be great at benching with it. That's not how it works. Not even all elite raw benchers can be as good with shirt (meaning elite in that as well).

 

I literally said the opposite of that, that you can't just put a shirt on and set records. Anybody could bench more with a shirt if they were willing to put in the time to learn the movement, but most don't make it that far. 

[Fist of Fury]

5 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

I literally said the opposite of that, that you can't just put a shirt on and set records. Anybody could bench more with a shirt if they were willing to put in the time to learn the movement, but most don't make it that far. 

Doesn't matter how much time you put on it. Everyone can't be among the best in both styles of lifting.

 

[Climber028]

58 minutes ago, Fist of Fury said:

Doesn't matter how much time you put on it. Everyone can't be among the best in both styles of lifting.

 

Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Anybody can learn to get stronger in a shirt, that doesn't mean setting records or anything elite, it just means better than your raw bench, by any amount. 

[Fist of Fury]

24 minutes ago, Climber028 said:

Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Anybody can learn to get stronger in a shirt, that doesn't mean setting records or anything elite, it just means better than your raw bench, by any amount. 

You were the one responding to my comment. Not the other way around.

I clearly said in my first comment that it wasn't directed at this particular lifter.

[Tommy J.]

Holy moly... I don’t watch a lot of geared benching vids, but dang! You’d think they’d at least have some kind of safety stops on either side of him.

no way anyone is catching that much weight if he drops it.

while I’m not a total fan of geared benching, I also don’t hate it. That said, this guys bench was one of the cleaner geared benches I’ve seen. Most of the time it looks like heavy geared benches dont get locked out. His did for a millisecond.

kudos to him. I ain’t ever getting under that much weight on any lift.

[climber511]

As this is the Grip Board - I have to mention.  1100# sitting on your hands - dang!  

[Tommy J.]

1 hour ago, climber511 said:

As this is the Grip Board - I have to mention.  1100# sitting on your hands - dang!  

Amen to that!

ive unracked about 440’ish before just to see how it felt. And not surprisingly, it did indeed feel like if I unlocked my elbows it was gonna kill me.. 

cant imagine what 2.5x that would feel like. 

I’m aware that what weight feels like it’s gonna crush me is not the same for others, both stronger and weaker. So I suppose it’s all relative. But dang! That’s a lot of weight to be playing with!

have done my share of overloading with the SS. And can vouch that it does bind you up at times. That said, I can’t imagine the pressure a super stiff bench shirt puts on your chest and arms as it fights the load. I would assume it’s hard to even breath?..

 

[king crusher]

On 7/7/2020 at 7:09 PM, Tommy J. said:

Holy moly... I don’t watch a lot of geared benching vids, but dang! You’d think they’d at least have some kind of safety stops on either side of him.

no way anyone is catching that much weight if he drops it.

while I’m not a total fan of geared benching, I also don’t hate it. That said, this guys bench was one of the cleaner geared benches I’ve seen. Most of the time it looks like heavy geared benches dont get locked out. His did for a millisecond.

kudos to him. I ain’t ever getting under that much weight on any lift.

Bro you're a mechanic! You have been under way more weight! It was just supported by bendpak not you haha

[Hubgeezer]

On 7/7/2020 at 6:11 AM, climber511 said:

 

What do you think?

About 10 or 11 years ago, my son and I were sitting in a bar at the LA Fit Expo. We were there to see the Strongman Contest, and there were two other guys at the bar. One of the guys recognized me as successfully winning a tee shirt at some creatine booth that morning by lifting some concrete textured shot put-like blobby thing that was about as hard as lifting a 40 lbs. blob (maybe one out of 50 were successful), and we starting BSing. His buddy was happier than heck because he had just won the Bench Press competition and had won $5000. He introduced himself as a Bench Press Specialist. His name was Tiny Meeker.
Meeker seemed like a real nice guy, friendly guy, didn’t care that I didn’t know jack about Benching. I was absolutely blown out by his forearms. I couldn’t believe how muscular they were, and as a Grip Guy, let’s just say I was impressed. 
Hadn’t really thought of him since then, and now I see that he had the previous equipped bench record. His record bench was nowhere near the form of this new record.

So, what do I think? It’s impressive, a World Class Feat worthy of Mega Respect.

[Tommy J.]

7 hours ago, king crusher said:

Bro you're a mechanic! You have been under way more weight! It was just supported by bendpak not you haha

Lol! Touché

[Tommy J.]

14 minutes ago, Hubgeezer said:

About 10 or 11 years ago, my son and I were sitting in a bar at the LA Fit Expo. We were there to see the Strongman Contest, and there were two other guys at the bar. One of the guys recognized me as successfully winning a tee shirt at some creatine booth that morning by lifting some concrete textured shot put-like blobby thing that was about as hard as lifting a 40 lbs. blob (maybe one out of 50 were successful), and we starting BSing. His buddy was happier than heck because he had just won the Bench Press competition and had won $5000. He introduced himself as a Bench Press Specialist. His name was Tiny Meeker.
Meeker seemed like a real nice guy, friendly guy, didn’t care that I didn’t know jack about Benching. I was absolutely blown out by his forearms. I couldn’t believe how muscular they were, and as a Grip Guy, let’s just say I was impressed. 
Hadn’t really thought of him since then, and now I see that he had the previous equipped bench record. His record bench was nowhere near the form of this new record.

So, what do I think? It’s impressive, a World Class Feat worthy of Mega Respect.

Fun fact, Tiny is reported to have also done an 1,100lb bench in his day.

not at all to hate on the guy (I’ve heard several reports that he was a good guy), but you know how rumors go. No telling if he actually did 1,100 or not.

i like to assume he did though, given how hard Mendy has hated on him in the past. If a guy like Mendy hates on a guys bench, then he must have been a threatening-to-Mendy level bencher.

[Tommy J.]

On another note, I’m loving all the play the bench is getting these days. It appears to be the hottest lift of the big three right now Geared or not.

eddies and Thor’s 500k+ lifts are pretty amazing. But no where near the pucker factor of 700lb+ benches.

also, I’d like to take a moment to point out all the times Eddie swore up and down his 500k pull almost killed him. Take that into consideration when picturing 500k over your chest, neck, and head as you lay pinned against a backstop.

and on another note, I know Julius has said in the past he has no interest in geared lifting.. but dang it would be interesting to see what he could do geared.

dude could prolly have a 2,000lb total between his raw and geared bench alone.

[climber511]

To me the really scary thing is if that things were to "go wrong" the spotters would be nearly worthless catching that thing.  More and more I am believing in some sort of safety setup with weights like this.