Cannon Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 What do people use? A chunk of horse stall mat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I bought some 3/4 sheets of neoprene of different durometers and cut some myself because I could never find (even used) the Dennis Roger's ugly rubber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donc101 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Camp Verde Rope makes them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTGlass Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Used the ugly rubber for 10 years- fantastic but ripping decks still #1 for progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I made a half deck sized one and really liked that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulderbrew Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 If you can’t find the right rubber, What about using a full deck with multiple credit cards placed in it to make it impossible (for most people)? Or a deck of cards wrapped in duct tape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Mavericks are super cheap at walmart. I suggest using those. I have an ugly rubber, and monster rubber. But as adam said tearing actual decks is king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Or find a 100% plastic deck and wrap in tape so you don't wreck your skin too bad. But I think @KapMan actually tore one of those, might have taken him a while but still seems impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulderbrew Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, wobbler said: But I think @KapMan actually tore one of those, might have taken him a while but still seems impossible. Shhh! Damn it. Don’t let him know he is good at card tearing. @KapMan is highly allergic to compliments. Would hate to see this lead to a self deprecating flare up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulderbrew Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hopefully said: Besides it being a fun way to train, is card tearing beneficial in a general sense or simply just to get better at tearing cards? It’s a fun party trick. Usefulness stops there. Kinda fun to progress into more difficult variations of card tearing patterns...but yeah. No carryover for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulderbrew Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 For the record, @KapManis a better at card tearing than me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Boulderbrew said: It’s a fun party trick. Usefulness stops there. Kinda fun to progress into more difficult variations of card tearing patterns...but yeah. No carryover for sure I kindly disagree, it did wonders for my thumb strength. Not as effective as pinch. But close. And its easy. Anyone can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, wobbler said: Or find a 100% plastic deck and wrap in tape so you don't wreck your skin too bad. But I think @KapMan actually tore one of those, might have taken him a while but still seems impossible. I did 30 cards in 5 hours. Scott Vincent did a full deck in 1 hour. Scott is the best power tearer on the planet. Chews through seal bicycle decks like I can mavericks. Then Id wager tim butler is second. Robert Nejedly can bandsaw decks better than me as well. Especially vertically which I still cant do on a regular basis. if I bought casino cards in bulk id probably be better but I had my hands in too many things and the 144 decks for 100 wasnt gonna happen because my shotgun approach to doing this stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donc101 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Hopefully said: Besides it being a fun way to train, is card tearing beneficial in a general sense or simply just to get better at tearing cards? Card tearing probably won’t carry over greatly to the events in contests. However, definitely builds good strength. A good type of strength. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, WestSlope said: What is a good price for Mavericks? I bought four decks at $1 from Dollar General on Saturday, but I thought I remember reading about $0.50 decks. I saw Bicycle decks at Costco for about $1.10/. One more question. Is there a card tearing analog to PK's gripper setting video? I tore one of those Maverick decks first time trying yesterday, but it felt really hard and took me around five minutes. My Walmart has Mavs for 88 cents. walmart has 2 pack bikes at like 6 bucks. So you are better at costco. I hate bikes. The ones around here were always either hard or chewy and were miserable to tear as well as inconsistent. Casino decks are the way to go on the long term. Especially if you get them straight from the drier areas. If you do. Seal them in a airtight container because humidity is a sob. i learned how to do basic tearing from Chris Rider and Robert Nejedly thats horizontal snd vertically. Though I never achieved Vertical excellence. Which is the best way to multi-chunk a deck. Then I just figured out the corner tears, notches and so forth on my own because no one wanted to say anything. Much like DU bending all of a sudden no one knew anything or conveniently didn’t do the things I was. Suspect if you ask me. Rider also has a book on tearing. May not be worth it to you because there’s to s of videos, even Adam has one. edit: Robert showed me how to dl strips as well. The man is really good at tearing and his tears are really clean. Edited February 24, 2020 by KapMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temmmeeee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, WestSlope said: One more question. Is there a card tearing analog to PK's gripper setting video? I tore one of those Maverick decks first time trying yesterday, but it felt really hard and took me around five minutes. The technique can take a while to click. But when it clicks, it clicks. Also Mavericks are also intermediate and not beginner decks. I bought Chris Rider's book which was really helpful, but it did take me some time and trial and error to really get a hang of creating the "S" for the tear (maybe I'm just a bit slow lol) which is the hardest part of it imo. Your tear felt hard and took a while because the technique was off. It can be confusing and frustrating at first but you'll definitely get it with practice. You have the power to shred big boy decks, just gotta figure out the technique which can take time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Mavericks were my starter decks. Cheap and not too difficult imo. Took me less then two weeks to tear a full deck. Aces And classics are harder imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temmmeeee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, KapMan said: Mavericks were my starter decks. Cheap and not too difficult imo. Took me less then two weeks to tear a full deck. Aces And classics are harder imo. The cheapos that are like $20 for 48 decks on amazon are considerably easier. Not saying you can't start with mavs, just that there are easier ones to start with. Idt I've ever tried aces but I found classics to be easier or as easy. Maybe it was the batch idk. For me it was easier to get the hang of the technique with easier decks. And then apply it to the harder ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Dollar store cheapo decks (2 pack for a dollar) aren't bad, in between the economy cards on amazon, and Mavericks. Dollar store used casino decks are in between mavericks and bicycles, depends on the brand but if you see the surface texture, those will be on the harder side. I have to disagree about carryover, I think it translates pretty directly to hub strength. But more importantly it will toughen up the skin on your thumbs so pinch can improve. Not saying it makes you stronger for pinch, just that you should be able to lift more and tear your skin less, and that will make you stronger. Be sure to change hands, keeps things balanced and it can help you figure out technique adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just try to quarter it with both hands in a key pinch position, that will blow up your thumb pads real quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temmmeeee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, WestSlope said: These the cheap cards you used? I can't find the 50 cent cards. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GL6B6VO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Here's the link where I get my cheapos, I suppose some core can be utilized, but I don't recall being that sore in the abs after tearing when I started. But once you start mastering the technique, you use much less if any of your body. I started out bracing a bit and putting my whole body into it and slowly built up to using just my hands/wrists for most tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbler Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Those are the economy cards I was referring to, easiest ones I've come across. Dimensionally a little different/smaller than a standard deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 This is amazing info, guys, keep it coming! But to recap on the rubber question, the people who had one it was a Dennis Rogers product that is no longer available. Right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temmmeeee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Cannon said: This is amazing info, guys, keep it coming! But to recap on the rubber question, the people who had one it was a Dennis Rogers product that is no longer available. Right? Yup, ugly rubber was a Dennis Rogers product that is no longer available. But, as @Donc101 mentioned, camp verde rope and gear offers 2 difficulties of "card ripper's helpers" which seem to be the same concept as the ugly rubbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTGlass Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cannon said: This is amazing info, guys, keep it coming! But to recap on the rubber question, the people who had one it was a Dennis Rogers product that is no longer available. Right? Matt yes that’s my understanding, no longer carrying it in his store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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