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Mike Rinderle

Ives is an elite level climber.  

See my statement earlier about guys that can get it quickly or on first try:  Guys with huge hands and high level climbers and arm wrestlers. 

Nobody is saying smaller hands mean you can't lift the Inch.  Hell, I'm extremely close and have slightly sub 8" hands.  But I think we can all agree that, everything being equal, larger hands make it easier to lift the Inch.

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Joseph Sullivan
8 hours ago, AdamTGlass said:

This hand size & the inch is so tired. Yves picked it up weighing 145 - get over it. It’s been done now by a guy with smaller hands than you smaller body than you. Done. 

One of my lifting partners in Minneapolis picked up the inch with 7.5 hands weighing 190. He lifted in grip nationals in 2012 and by 2014 videos on his yt picking it up. if you train your grip you can lift the bell. Tommy Jennings hands are smaller than mine (7&7/8) he lifts it. Riccardo Magni smaller than mine he lifts it. Matt Brouse has a shorter hand he easily lifts it. Bob Sundin lifted the inch weighing like with in a few pounds of it. It’s been done. I wish I had a better memory to name drop because I would fill this up with every unde 8” hand inch lifter and that would take some time to do. 

It’s been done. Take an inch bell to a rodeo or a Arm Wrestling meet or a climbing gym and watch someone pop up who lifts it on sight. 

The real question John is asking is who would be up a nice chunk of change for a grip contest? In or out? 

I am in for that. I would guess most of my friends in this game would be too. It’s a great idea to kick around. Who cares what the events would be? At the level of vision John is talking this goes well past a 15 guy meet. He’s east coast - how many strongman gyms, power lifting clubs, cross fit studios, commercial gyms, private studios are within day 2 hour drive of his venue? 

See a bigger picture of involvement. A 100 person meet under 1 roof would be a win for all of Grip, all federations, all equipment companies, blah blah- And if the winning pot is big it becomes an instant draw for even grander set ups. 

Best of all - John didn’t ask any of us to do anything other than would ya lift? So any useful ideas beyond what equipment you don’t like because youre not a top of leaderboard on?

Its been done, that’s the statistic you need. Every one of you can do it. 

Yes, I would lift.....

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KapMan
9 hours ago, AdamTGlass said:

This hand size & the inch is so tired. Yves picked it up weighing 145 - get over it. It’s been done now by a guy with smaller hands than you smaller body than you. Done. 

One of my lifting partners in Minneapolis picked up the inch with 7.5 hands weighing 190. He lifted in grip nationals in 2012 and by 2014 videos on his yt picking it up. if you train your grip you can lift the bell. Tommy Jennings hands are smaller than mine (7&7/8) he lifts it. Riccardo Magni smaller than mine he lifts it. Matt Brouse has a shorter hand he easily lifts it. Bob Sundin lifted the inch weighing like with in a few pounds of it. It’s been done. I wish I had a better memory to name drop because I would fill this up with every unde 8” hand inch lifter and that would take some time to do. 

It’s been done. Take an inch bell to a rodeo or a Arm Wrestling meet or a climbing gym and watch someone pop up who lifts it on sight. 

The real question John is asking is who would be up a nice chunk of change for a grip contest? In or out? 

I am in for that. I would guess most of my friends in this game would be too. It’s a great idea to kick around. Who cares what the events would be? At the level of vision John is talking this goes well past a 15 guy meet. He’s east coast - how many strongman gyms, power lifting clubs, cross fit studios, commercial gyms, private studios are within day 2 hour drive of his venue? 

See a bigger picture of involvement. A 100 person meet under 1 roof would be a win for all of Grip, all federations, all equipment companies, blah blah- And if the winning pot is big it becomes an instant draw for even grander set ups. 

Best of all - John didn’t ask any of us to do anything other than would ya lift? So any useful ideas beyond what equipment you don’t like because youre not a top of leaderboard on?

Its been done, that’s the statistic you need. Every one of you can do it. 

 Not everyone can do it. Those are facts. Also. Those guys you mentioned are outliers. You are talking small percentages. This anyone can do anything bs is as tired as the hand size debate itself. 

Thats like saying anyone can deadlift 1000 pounds, anyone can walk the dinnie stones, and any one can dunk on kobe bryant. 

 

 

 

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Joseph Sullivan

Just measured my right hand that I can lift the inch with. It’s slightly less than 8 inches. My left hand is even less.

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Mike Rinderle
11 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

Just measured my right hand that I can lift the inch with. It’s slightly less than 8 inches. My left hand is even less.

Trumpian!

 

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Joseph Sullivan
1 minute ago, Mike Rinderle said:

Trumpian!

 

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Burger King hands!!! 

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Joseph Sullivan
11 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said:

Trumpian!

 

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Burger King hands!!! 

 

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Tom Flesher

This board has some weird threads.

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Joseph Sullivan
5 minutes ago, Tom Flesher said:

This board has some weird threads.

You must have noticed... strength sports, grip in particular, attracts a lot of eccentric folks..... you gotta be to do what we do.

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Vinnie
30 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

You must have noticed... strength sports, grip in particular, attracts a lot of eccentric folks..... you gotta be to do what we do.

Face it, we are a weird blend of macho and geek.  For me, that is perfect.  Luv y'all.

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Joseph Sullivan
4 minutes ago, Vinnie said:

Face it, we are a weird blend of macho and geek.  For me, that is perfect.  Luv y'all.

John Stepien calls grip the “dungeons and dragons” of strength sports.... 

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Vinnie
3 hours ago, KapMan said:

 Not everyone can do it. Those are facts. Also. Those guys you mentioned are outliers. You are talking small percentages. This anyone can do anything bs is as tired as the hand size debate itself. 

Thats like saying anyone can deadlift 1000 pounds, anyone can walk the dinnie stones, and any one can dunk on kobe bryant. 

 

 

 

Exactly.  Adam's optimism is AWESOME, and I have seen it at work in person, with him cheering me on silver bulleting a 3.5 for a PR.  It's infectious and it can motivate.  But it has a place -- telling me, for example, that I could close a 4 if I make it a priority because anyone can would just be hogwash.  It does not matter what I do, what priorities I choose, how hard I work.  I am 175 pounds, 7.5 inch hand, 50 years old, and I have a reasonably strong but not super-exceptional build and musculature.  I will never close a 4, deadlift 1000 (or even 600, given back surgery etc.), bench 300.  Physically impossible.

The optimism is useful in this way:  I have MMS closed a 3 and got MM0.  And I did it with a pretty wide MMS set.  I have never CCS closed a 3 though.  Telling me that if I work hard and make it a priority I can get the IM COC3 cert is not misguided.  That's practical optimism.  It may or may not ever happen, but I bet that I can control that with effort and determination, and if it is a priority, and that Adamesque encouragement/confidence/optimism would be well-placed there.  For Adam, that 4 may be attainable.  For some other folks, the 3 would be an unreasonable pipe dream.  It's naïve to go through life thinking anyone can do anything.  It's an easy thing to spout, but it is not so.  The danger is not realizing that you probably CAN do MORE than you think.  That is what I am getting at.  I like that optimism.

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Vinnie
6 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

John Stepien calls grip the “dungeons and dragons” of strength sports.... 

So true.  I used to play that.  I knew since high school (graduated 1987, before a lot of you folks were even born!) that I was a geek.  I just never understood why I was the only geek who could beat all the football players at arm wrestling.  Now I know.

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Joseph Sullivan

This thread has definitely lost any resemblance to its original intention ... 

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Vinnie
2 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

This thread has definitely lost any resemblance to its original intention ... 

Forgot what that even was ...

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Vinnie

Sorry Ider, for helping steer this thread off course.  We are a social bunch.  I hope you get your cash comp going, and that the big names are attracted.  Probably not gonna be the right fit for me, but I'd consider coming to watch and socialize, etc.  I like the idea of getting good athletes from other disciplines into grip.

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Mike Rinderle

Back to the original thread.  This would be very close to me, but I can't see spending $250 on an entry fee for a contest I have zero chance in.  But, that being said, I'm not the target athlete you are trying to entice to enter.

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EricMilfeld
20 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

This thread has definitely lost any resemblance to its original intention ... 

Then it’s following the normal trajectory. No need for alarm. 

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KapMan
20 minutes ago, Vinnie said:

So true.  I used to play that.  I knew since high school (graduated 1987, before a lot of you folks were even born!) that I was a geek.  I just never understood why I was the only geek who could beat all the football players at arm wrestling.  Now I know.

I play it now. Even going as far as starting to paint miniatures because fun..

As for the contest though. OP is within my bubble of acceptable distance of travel, but like Rhindo the Bindo. Not chucking an additional 250, on top of the other costs to get slaughtered. Gotta pick my fights, I cant even compete with the bunch we have, Im not even in the same galaxy as the guys you are trying to pull.

 

if anything do the legends style setup up and have a novice/open division for 100 bucks or something same events lighter weights and expectations. Might get more folk 

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Joseph Sullivan
2 minutes ago, KapMan said:

I play it now. Even going as far as starting to paint miniatures because fun..

As for the contest though. OP is within my bubble of acceptable distance of travel, but like Rhindo the Bindo. Not chucking an additional 250, on top of the other costs to get slaughtered. Gotta pick my fights, I cant even compete with the bunch we have, Im not even in the same galaxy as the guys you are trying to pull.

 

if anything do the legends style setup up and have a novice/open division for 100 bucks or something same events lighter weights and expectations. Might get more folk 

That’s actually a great idea, man.

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Chez

 

15 minutes ago, KapMan said:

As for the contest though. OP is within my bubble of acceptable distance of travel, but like Rhindo the Bindo. Not chucking an additional 250, on top of the other costs to get slaughtered. Gotta pick my fights, I cant even compete with the bunch we have, Im not even in the same galaxy as the guys you are trying to pull.

Thinking about the entry fee to go get slaughtered by high level guys had me think of this clip Shawn lol

 

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lder

Thank you for everyone's input, I will post again in a new thread when details of the contest are finalized.  Look for something to come out in the next few months.  This is not an invitation only contest, everyone is welcome to register and compete, but please understand that the contest will not be toned down in the challenge of the events or entry fee.  Thank you.  

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Climber028

I wouldn't do this, I suspect most other light guys would not be interested. I could just send Jedd a check and save my energy. 

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Tom Flesher

I think the comp is a great idea, but it's not for me. I have no hope of winning; I'd have no hope of winning if you accidentally recorded my weight as 100 pounds lighter than it is and let me compete with the lightweights. I guess the question is how optimistic your average gripster is.

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